As an alumni, I hope this happens. Campus life on UCSD was bad enough, I think division I athletics would help alot. I was disappointed that they voted it down in 2011 and refuse to donate to the school until they do so....

(01-20-2016 09:08 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Mongoose, I have no problem with UCSD joining. I just don't see them joining alone. Someone(s) from out-of-state will come in. Someone who can help build basketball up.

Adding UCSD puts the Big West at a crossroad. We'd be up to 9 California schools. The commissioner has long said he wants 10. Assuming Hawaii is staying long-term, the 10th in-state member would have to be either Cal State Bakersfield or San Jose State; either choice will drag the conference down. Adding one of them puts the conference at 11 members overall. And by the way, the commissioner also said if we ever went to 11 we'd likely go to 12. So if UCSD comes in what's next? Stop there and deny a man his dream? Or go to 12 with CSUB / SJSU and...?

"and" could be anybody, but likely would have to be (gasp) OUT-OF-STATE. Someone who can help build up basketball. That someone is going to be either New Mexico State or, if they are part of the Big Sky FBS scenario, it will be Grand Canyon.

When the commissioner said he wanted 10, are you sure he meant in-state? Or in total?

In any case I could see the benefit of going to 12 if the new members gave the Big West a fighting chance to become a 2-bid conference. We shall see.

(01-20-2016 05:10 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 04:12 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 02:30 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 11:36 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 11:31 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  There is no such thing as Cal San Diego. It's UC-xxx. -2

So what? Many people say the school names differently, but they are the same schools. I rather use Fullerton State, Fresno State, Long Beach and so forth because it is much easier to say than saying them as Cal. State whatever.

I really don't know why it's so hard to call schools by the names they call themselves.

UC System:

UC Berkeley, California, Cal or Berkeley
UCLA
UC San Diego or UCSD
UC Davis or Davis
UC Santa Barbara or UCSB
UC Santa Cruz, UCSC or Santa Cruz
UC Irvine, UCI or Irvine
UC Riverside or UCR

Simple rule of thumb for these guys: just call them UC [City Name] and the only one that might give you pushback is Los Angeles, which prefers to go by just UCLA.

It would be especially helpful to stop using "Cal-[City]" for any school, particularly because the California State University System has many schools that go by Cal State [City] or Cal Poly [City.] You may think you have a simplified system, but you are making things more confusing because your system doesn't always make it clear when a school is a UC and when it is a CSU.

Your worst repeated offense is to list Cal Poly (also known as Cal Poly SLO or Cal Poly San Luis Obispo) among the UC schools, and with a hyphen separating Cal from Poly. There is no UC campus in a city called Poly. Cal Poly is part of the CSU system.

And while some CSUs do like going by [City] State, not all do.

When tv reporters and others when they call Cal-Davis.They do not put the U in front of it.
Cal Poly became short recently.

Cal-San Diego, Cal Poly-Pomona and Cal. State- L.A. used to be D1 for all sports before all the splitting. I could see all 3 move up in the future to join the Big West. East Bay State might join them as well, and they have plans for football, but no fundraising yet. Humboldt State and Azusa Pacific could move up and help restart FCS football. Long Beach State might move on to try and get an invite to the MWC if they re-start football.

TV personalities call USC "Southern Cal" but that doesn't mean the school likes it. In fact, they specifically request not to be called that. And even if there are some holdouts from the days of the "Cal Aggies" that does not mean that we should use the Cal name for all UC campuses even if doing so has never been common.

I really think it's best to just stick to UC [City Name] for the UCs. And for the CSUs, here, I'll do your research for you on all the campuses.

The ones that put the city name in front, either formally or even just informally:
Fresno State
San José State
San Diego State
Sacramento State
Chico State
San Francisco State
Humboldt State
Stanislaus State
Sonoma State

The ones that put the city name after the state name, if at all.
Cal Poly
Cal Poly Pomona
CSU Maritime Academy
Cal State LA
Cal State Fullerton
Cal State East Bay
Cal State Northridge
Cal State Dominguez Hills
Cal State San Bernardino
Cal State Bakersfield
Cal State San Marcos
Cal State Monterey Bay
Cal State Channel Islands

The one that swings both ways
Cal State Long Beach, Long Beach State or just The Beach

I have seen Fullerton State and Northridge State go by this as will without the Cal. State in front of the city name. Calling them this is much easier.

I always say USC as Southern Cow which it sounds like to others when I try and say that.

I have seen newspaper and some fans of Cal-Davis used that.

When I do these things like Fullerton State? It makes them be more individual from the main Cla-State flag campus.

Like I would like to call UAB to University of Birmingham.

UALR dropped UA to be known as Little Rock. Milwaukee dropped Wisconsin. Charlotte is now being called that. Chattanooga is now being named that. Buffalo, Stony Brook and Albany in newspapers does not have SUNY in front of them.

(01-21-2016 01:55 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Not sure where you got the $900 figure. The article says they need to increase funding for athletics by roughly $5 million to move up. They have 31,000 students, of whom about 25,000 are undergraduates. If the increase is only levied on the undergraduates, that works out to $200 per student. The article says the current athletic fee is $387 so the new fee should be under $600.

Article says

Quote:Annual athletic fees have remained at $387.

and

Quote:In 2011, students rejected a proposal to increase their fees by $495 a year to fund almost $5 million needed to meet Division I scholarship requirements and additional staff.

Increase of $495/year to a fee already at $387/year = fee of $882/year.

Source for UCSB "intercollegiate athletics facility fee" is here, and it looks like that fee is paid by UCSB undergrads but not graduate students, FWIW.

(01-20-2016 09:10 PM)k5james Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 07:27 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 05:16 PM)k5james Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 04:12 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  When tv reporters and others when they call Cal-Davis.They do not put the U in front of it.
Cal Poly became short recently.

Cal-San Diego, Cal Poly-Pomona and Cal. State- L.A. used to be D1 for all sports before all the splitting. I could see all 3 move up in the future to join the Big West. East Bay State might join them as well, and they have plans for football, but no fundraising yet. Humboldt State and Azusa Pacific could move up and help restart FCS football. Long Beach State might move on to try and get an invite to the MWC if they re-start football.

Um, yes they do. They call them UC Davis, UC Berkeley or just Davis or Berkeley. Nobody calls the UC schools Cal Berkeley or Cal Davis, etc...

As for the OP, there's very little chance this passes. There's just no will for it on campus and they don't have the kind of President that will just pass it anyway.

What are the athletics fees like at SDSU?

The fee the UCSD was proposing was quite an increase to what I consider an already high fee. (just for athletics)

Last I looked it was $350 but I they recently passed a "Student Success Fee" for another $200 and I think some of that is going towards cost of attendance stuff for athletics.

There seems to be some D2 schools looking at FCOA for their sports as well. If this is the case? We might see schools want D1 for a good fit conferences for travel purposes, and bigger bucks.

(01-21-2016 02:23 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 01:55 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Not sure where you got the $900 figure. The article says they need to increase funding for athletics by roughly $5 million to move up. They have 31,000 students, of whom about 25,000 are undergraduates. If the increase is only levied on the undergraduates, that works out to $200 per student. The article says the current athletic fee is $387 so the new fee should be under $600.

Article says

Quote:Annual athletic fees have remained at $387.

and

Quote:In 2011, students rejected a proposal to increase their fees by $495 a year to fund almost $5 million needed to meet Division I scholarship requirements and additional staff.

Increase of $495/year to a fee already at $387/year = fee of $882/year.

Ah. Gotcha.

(01-21-2016 02:23 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 05:10 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 04:12 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 02:30 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 11:36 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  So what? Many people say the school names differently, but they are the same schools. I rather use Fullerton State, Fresno State, Long Beach and so forth because it is much easier to say than saying them as Cal. State whatever.

I really don't know why it's so hard to call schools by the names they call themselves.

UC System:

UC Berkeley, California, Cal or Berkeley
UCLA
UC San Diego or UCSD
UC Davis or Davis
UC Santa Barbara or UCSB
UC Santa Cruz, UCSC or Santa Cruz
UC Irvine, UCI or Irvine
UC Riverside or UCR

Simple rule of thumb for these guys: just call them UC [City Name] and the only one that might give you pushback is Los Angeles, which prefers to go by just UCLA.

It would be especially helpful to stop using "Cal-[City]" for any school, particularly because the California State University System has many schools that go by Cal State [City] or Cal Poly [City.] You may think you have a simplified system, but you are making things more confusing because your system doesn't always make it clear when a school is a UC and when it is a CSU.

Your worst repeated offense is to list Cal Poly (also known as Cal Poly SLO or Cal Poly San Luis Obispo) among the UC schools, and with a hyphen separating Cal from Poly. There is no UC campus in a city called Poly. Cal Poly is part of the CSU system.

And while some CSUs do like going by [City] State, not all do.

When tv reporters and others when they call Cal-Davis.They do not put the U in front of it.
Cal Poly became short recently.

Cal-San Diego, Cal Poly-Pomona and Cal. State- L.A. used to be D1 for all sports before all the splitting. I could see all 3 move up in the future to join the Big West. East Bay State might join them as well, and they have plans for football, but no fundraising yet. Humboldt State and Azusa Pacific could move up and help restart FCS football. Long Beach State might move on to try and get an invite to the MWC if they re-start football.

TV personalities call USC "Southern Cal" but that doesn't mean the school likes it. In fact, they specifically request not to be called that. And even if there are some holdouts from the days of the "Cal Aggies" that does not mean that we should use the Cal name for all UC campuses even if doing so has never been common.

I really think it's best to just stick to UC [City Name] for the UCs. And for the CSUs, here, I'll do your research for you on all the campuses.

The ones that put the city name in front, either formally or even just informally:
Fresno State
San José State
San Diego State
Sacramento State
Chico State
San Francisco State
Humboldt State
Stanislaus State
Sonoma State

The ones that put the city name after the state name, if at all.
Cal Poly
Cal Poly Pomona
CSU Maritime Academy
Cal State LA
Cal State Fullerton
Cal State East Bay
Cal State Northridge
Cal State Dominguez Hills
Cal State San Bernardino
Cal State Bakersfield
Cal State San Marcos
Cal State Monterey Bay
Cal State Channel Islands

The one that swings both ways
Cal State Long Beach, Long Beach State or just The Beach

I have seen Fullerton State and Northridge State go by this as will without the Cal. State in front of the city name. Calling them this is much easier.

I always say USC as Southern Cow which it sounds like to others when I try and say that.

I have seen newspaper and some fans of Cal-Davis used that.

When I do these things like Fullerton State? It makes them be more individual from the main Cla-State flag campus.

Like I would like to call UAB to University of Birmingham.

UALR dropped UA to be known as Little Rock. Milwaukee dropped Wisconsin. Charlotte is now being called that. Chattanooga is now being named that. Buffalo, Stony Brook and Albany in newspapers does not have SUNY in front of them.

To my knowledge the CSU schools are not trying to run away from their Cal State names, especially since no one campus is thought of as the flagship (San José never did enough to solidify its place as the original CSU.) There is no need to lump them in with whatever national trend you think you see.

And though I suppose every once in a while you'll find a mention in your preferred format, I thought you might want to know what each school is called the vast majority of the time. But hey, what do I know? I only live here.

(01-21-2016 03:08 AM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 02:23 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 05:10 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 04:12 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 02:30 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  I really don't know why it's so hard to call schools by the names they call themselves.

UC System:

UC Berkeley, California, Cal or Berkeley
UCLA
UC San Diego or UCSD
UC Davis or Davis
UC Santa Barbara or UCSB
UC Santa Cruz, UCSC or Santa Cruz
UC Irvine, UCI or Irvine
UC Riverside or UCR

Simple rule of thumb for these guys: just call them UC [City Name] and the only one that might give you pushback is Los Angeles, which prefers to go by just UCLA.

It would be especially helpful to stop using "Cal-[City]" for any school, particularly because the California State University System has many schools that go by Cal State [City] or Cal Poly [City.] You may think you have a simplified system, but you are making things more confusing because your system doesn't always make it clear when a school is a UC and when it is a CSU.

Your worst repeated offense is to list Cal Poly (also known as Cal Poly SLO or Cal Poly San Luis Obispo) among the UC schools, and with a hyphen separating Cal from Poly. There is no UC campus in a city called Poly. Cal Poly is part of the CSU system.

And while some CSUs do like going by [City] State, not all do.

When tv reporters and others when they call Cal-Davis.They do not put the U in front of it.
Cal Poly became short recently.

Cal-San Diego, Cal Poly-Pomona and Cal. State- L.A. used to be D1 for all sports before all the splitting. I could see all 3 move up in the future to join the Big West. East Bay State might join them as well, and they have plans for football, but no fundraising yet. Humboldt State and Azusa Pacific could move up and help restart FCS football. Long Beach State might move on to try and get an invite to the MWC if they re-start football.

TV personalities call USC "Southern Cal" but that doesn't mean the school likes it. In fact, they specifically request not to be called that. And even if there are some holdouts from the days of the "Cal Aggies" that does not mean that we should use the Cal name for all UC campuses even if doing so has never been common.

I really think it's best to just stick to UC [City Name] for the UCs. And for the CSUs, here, I'll do your research for you on all the campuses.

The ones that put the city name in front, either formally or even just informally:
Fresno State
San José State
San Diego State
Sacramento State
Chico State
San Francisco State
Humboldt State
Stanislaus State
Sonoma State

The ones that put the city name after the state name, if at all.
Cal Poly
Cal Poly Pomona
CSU Maritime Academy
Cal State LA
Cal State Fullerton
Cal State East Bay
Cal State Northridge
Cal State Dominguez Hills
Cal State San Bernardino
Cal State Bakersfield
Cal State San Marcos
Cal State Monterey Bay
Cal State Channel Islands

The one that swings both ways
Cal State Long Beach, Long Beach State or just The Beach

I have seen Fullerton State and Northridge State go by this as will without the Cal. State in front of the city name. Calling them this is much easier.

I always say USC as Southern Cow which it sounds like to others when I try and say that.

I have seen newspaper and some fans of Cal-Davis used that.

When I do these things like Fullerton State? It makes them be more individual from the main Cla-State flag campus.

Like I would like to call UAB to University of Birmingham.

UALR dropped UA to be known as Little Rock. Milwaukee dropped Wisconsin. Charlotte is now being called that. Chattanooga is now being named that. Buffalo, Stony Brook and Albany in newspapers does not have SUNY in front of them.

To my knowledge the CSU schools are not trying to run away from their Cal State names, especially since no one campus is thought of as the flagship (San José never did enough to solidify its place as the original CSU.) There is no need to lump them in with whatever national trend you think you see.

And though I suppose every once in a while you'll find a mention in your preferred format, I thought you might want to know what each school is called the vast majority of the time. But hey, what do I know? I only live here.

I was looking at the time that they had football teams. I remember watching Fullerton State football game on tv, and they always called them Fullerton State back then. I guess if it has to do with football? It makes them look like they are not the same as San Jose State, but as separate identity from the other state schools.

Someone mentioned Chaminade to come up. I remember they had good basketball teams that upset some of the P5 basketball schools in a tournaments in Hawaii. They could be brought up as well.

If they want to re-start football? They could call up Azusa Pacific and Humboldt State for football only, and have the rest of their sports in the WAC.

Long Beach State's AD did mentioned a couple of years ago about re-starting football and target MWC. They might have to replace them if they leave in the future.

(01-21-2016 02:10 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  When the commissioner said he wanted 10, are you sure he meant in-state? Or in total?

In any case I could see the benefit of going to 12 if the new members gave the Big West a fighting chance to become a 2-bid conference. We shall see.

I know he meant 10 in-state, and he most likely meant 10 in total as well. He was quoted on that a decade ago when Utah State and Idaho were about to leave. Nothing has been posted since then that suggests he will change his vision of 10 California members.

http://www.bigwest.org/info/askthecommissioner/answers/

However, now that Hawaii is in the fold things are a bit different. To realize his dream the Big West would have to go to 12 overall by adding a second non-California member for balance.

Going to 12 also helps Hawaii since the amount of travel subs they pay would actually decrease. Hawaii should be on board with a Grand Canyon, Seattle, NMSU, somebody of that ilk.

(01-21-2016 03:20 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 03:08 AM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 02:23 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 05:10 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-20-2016 04:12 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  When tv reporters and others when they call Cal-Davis.They do not put the U in front of it.
Cal Poly became short recently.

Cal-San Diego, Cal Poly-Pomona and Cal. State- L.A. used to be D1 for all sports before all the splitting. I could see all 3 move up in the future to join the Big West. East Bay State might join them as well, and they have plans for football, but no fundraising yet. Humboldt State and Azusa Pacific could move up and help restart FCS football. Long Beach State might move on to try and get an invite to the MWC if they re-start football.

TV personalities call USC "Southern Cal" but that doesn't mean the school likes it. In fact, they specifically request not to be called that. And even if there are some holdouts from the days of the "Cal Aggies" that does not mean that we should use the Cal name for all UC campuses even if doing so has never been common.

I really think it's best to just stick to UC [City Name] for the UCs. And for the CSUs, here, I'll do your research for you on all the campuses.

The ones that put the city name in front, either formally or even just informally:
Fresno State
San José State
San Diego State
Sacramento State
Chico State
San Francisco State
Humboldt State
Stanislaus State
Sonoma State

The ones that put the city name after the state name, if at all.
Cal Poly
Cal Poly Pomona
CSU Maritime Academy
Cal State LA
Cal State Fullerton
Cal State East Bay
Cal State Northridge
Cal State Dominguez Hills
Cal State San Bernardino
Cal State Bakersfield
Cal State San Marcos
Cal State Monterey Bay
Cal State Channel Islands

The one that swings both ways
Cal State Long Beach, Long Beach State or just The Beach

I have seen Fullerton State and Northridge State go by this as will without the Cal. State in front of the city name. Calling them this is much easier.

I always say USC as Southern Cow which it sounds like to others when I try and say that.

I have seen newspaper and some fans of Cal-Davis used that.

When I do these things like Fullerton State? It makes them be more individual from the main Cla-State flag campus.

Like I would like to call UAB to University of Birmingham.

UALR dropped UA to be known as Little Rock. Milwaukee dropped Wisconsin. Charlotte is now being called that. Chattanooga is now being named that. Buffalo, Stony Brook and Albany in newspapers does not have SUNY in front of them.

To my knowledge the CSU schools are not trying to run away from their Cal State names, especially since no one campus is thought of as the flagship (San José never did enough to solidify its place as the original CSU.) There is no need to lump them in with whatever national trend you think you see.

And though I suppose every once in a while you'll find a mention in your preferred format, I thought you might want to know what each school is called the vast majority of the time. But hey, what do I know? I only live here.

I was looking at the time that they had football teams. I remember watching Fullerton State football game on tv, and they always called them Fullerton State back then. I guess if it has to do with football? It makes them look like they are not the same as San Jose State, but as separate identity from the other state schools.

Check out their current athletics website. http://www.fullertontitans.com/landing/index

When referring to the school name they use Cal State Fullerton throughout the site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California..._Fullerton

It shows that it was also known as Fullerton State.

http://cfrc.com/encyclopedia/all-time-sc...rton-state

Other websites also point to them being Fullerton State for football.

(01-21-2016 01:58 AM)Jet915 Wrote:  As an alumni, I hope this happens. Campus life on UCSD was bad enough, I think division I athletics would help alot. I was disappointed that they voted it down in 2011 and refuse to donate to the school until they do so....

Off topic but how does a UCSD alum end up rooting for Creighton?

(01-21-2016 04:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California..._Fullerton

It shows that it was also known as Fullerton State.

http://cfrc.com/encyclopedia/all-time-sc...rton-state

Other websites also point to them being Fullerton State for football.

I wonder if you even realize we are talking about different things here. You're talking about using any name that the school or its teams have ever been known by, which would also include Orange County State College, Orange State College, and California State College at Fullerton. I'm talking about using the name most commonly used today.

But fine, I guess I can see why going by a defunct team's name when the current school, current students, current websites, and anyone in the area who's heard of the school go by another might make sense to you.

The bigger head scratcher is in the topic title. Cal-San Diego. Twitch

(01-21-2016 01:27 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 04:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California..._Fullerton

It shows that it was also known as Fullerton State.

http://cfrc.com/encyclopedia/all-time-sc...rton-state

Other websites also point to them being Fullerton State for football.

I wonder if you even realize we are talking about different things here. You're talking about using any name that the school or its teams have ever been known by, which would also include Orange County State College, Orange State College, and California State College at Fullerton. I'm talking about using the name most commonly used today.

But fine, I guess I can see why going by a defunct team's name when the current school, current students, current websites, and anyone in the area who's heard of the school go by another might make sense to you.

The bigger head scratcher is in the topic title. Cal-San Diego. Twitch

If UCSD would have been in the title I'm not sure I would have guessed the school. I'm not from either California or Colorado, and I don't know the non FBS schools in each system very well. Saying Cal-San Diego told me exactly which school it was without me trying to figure it out. Putting UC-San Diego would have also made sense, but frankly I'd still call it 'Cal' in my head as that sounds better to me.

If it does become an FBS member and is known to more people, I can easily see it becoming known as UCSD, but when most people outside of southern California haven't heard of the school, going by initials makes it hard to determine which school it is.

(01-21-2016 04:38 PM)Phlipper33 Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 01:27 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 04:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California..._Fullerton

It shows that it was also known as Fullerton State.

http://cfrc.com/encyclopedia/all-time-sc...rton-state

Other websites also point to them being Fullerton State for football.

I wonder if you even realize we are talking about different things here. You're talking about using any name that the school or its teams have ever been known by, which would also include Orange County State College, Orange State College, and California State College at Fullerton. I'm talking about using the name most commonly used today.

But fine, I guess I can see why going by a defunct team's name when the current school, current students, current websites, and anyone in the area who's heard of the school go by another might make sense to you.

The bigger head scratcher is in the topic title. Cal-San Diego. Twitch

If UCSD would have been in the title I'm not sure I would have guessed the school. I'm not from either California or Colorado, and I don't know the non FBS schools in each system very well. Saying Cal-San Diego told me exactly which school it was without me trying to figure it out. Putting UC-San Diego would have also made sense, but frankly I'd still call it 'Cal' in my head as that sounds better to me.

If it does become an FBS member and is known to more people, I can easily see it becoming known as UCSD, but when most people outside of southern California haven't heard of the school, going by initials makes it hard to determine which school it is.

UC San Diego not only works for that purpose, but is also something people actually call the school. It would have been the better choice.

(01-21-2016 05:32 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 04:38 PM)Phlipper33 Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 01:27 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 04:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California..._Fullerton

It shows that it was also known as Fullerton State.

http://cfrc.com/encyclopedia/all-time-sc...rton-state

Other websites also point to them being Fullerton State for football.

I wonder if you even realize we are talking about different things here. You're talking about using any name that the school or its teams have ever been known by, which would also include Orange County State College, Orange State College, and California State College at Fullerton. I'm talking about using the name most commonly used today.

But fine, I guess I can see why going by a defunct team's name when the current school, current students, current websites, and anyone in the area who's heard of the school go by another might make sense to you.

The bigger head scratcher is in the topic title. Cal-San Diego. Twitch

If UCSD would have been in the title I'm not sure I would have guessed the school. I'm not from either California or Colorado, and I don't know the non FBS schools in each system very well. Saying Cal-San Diego told me exactly which school it was without me trying to figure it out. Putting UC-San Diego would have also made sense, but frankly I'd still call it 'Cal' in my head as that sounds better to me.

If it does become an FBS member and is known to more people, I can easily see it becoming known as UCSD, but when most people outside of southern California haven't heard of the school, going by initials makes it hard to determine which school it is.

UC San Diego not only works for that purpose, but is also something people actually call the school. It would have been the better choice.

This.

(01-21-2016 05:32 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 04:38 PM)Phlipper33 Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 01:27 PM)GiveEmTheAxe Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 04:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California..._Fullerton

It shows that it was also known as Fullerton State.

http://cfrc.com/encyclopedia/all-time-sc...rton-state

Other websites also point to them being Fullerton State for football.

I wonder if you even realize we are talking about different things here. You're talking about using any name that the school or its teams have ever been known by, which would also include Orange County State College, Orange State College, and California State College at Fullerton. I'm talking about using the name most commonly used today.

But fine, I guess I can see why going by a defunct team's name when the current school, current students, current websites, and anyone in the area who's heard of the school go by another might make sense to you.

The bigger head scratcher is in the topic title. Cal-San Diego. Twitch

If UCSD would have been in the title I'm not sure I would have guessed the school. I'm not from either California or Colorado, and I don't know the non FBS schools in each system very well. Saying Cal-San Diego told me exactly which school it was without me trying to figure it out. Putting UC-San Diego would have also made sense, but frankly I'd still call it 'Cal' in my head as that sounds better to me.

If it does become an FBS member and is known to more people, I can easily see it becoming known as UCSD, but when most people outside of southern California haven't heard of the school, going by initials makes it hard to determine which school it is.

UC San Diego not only works for that purpose, but is also something people actually call the school. It would have been the better choice.

You have to be careful with initials as well. Here in Arkansas? We have 2 schools with UAM. They are 2 separate schools. You have University of Arkansas at Monticello and you have University of Morrellton which is a Community College.

Phlipper, it's a safe assumption that UCSD will never become an FBS school. If they had that as their long term goal, they wouldn't be knocking on the Big West door.

This was in UCSD's student newspaper.

http://ucsdguardian.org/2016/01/13/a-s-p...athletics/

The last time students voted on a Division-I referendum was in 2012 when nearly 60 percent voted against the move. According to Beamer, some of the dissenting opinions that the Triton Athletic Council has received include concern that the accompanying increase in student fees would finance the tuitions of student athletes without benefiting the rest of the student population.

However, as Sixth College senior Julia Kirkland pointed out, the move to Division I athletics would help rally alumni support. Currently, out of all the UC campuses, UCSD annually receives one of the lowest amounts of alumni donations.

“The move to Division I would allow our school to become more nationally recognized,” Kirkland told the Guardian. “This would gain more support from UCSD alumni, which would in turn benefit all aspects of student life.”