The SECN did a little better than we thought even a few months ago!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/col.../79006606/


Take out the conference share and that's 35.16 million per school in a year that was only about 9 1/2 months for the network, and in the last year of our covering startup overhead.

Next year's numbers will be higher for the network in that it will be a full year, and the payouts will be 4-6 million higher by my conservative estimate and between 7-9 million higher by the more optimistic estimates.

(01-19-2016 06:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The SECN did a little better than we thought even a few months ago!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/col.../79006606/


Take out the conference share and that's 35.16 million per school in a year that was only about 9 1/2 months for the network, and in the last year of our covering startup overhead.

Next year's numbers will be higher for the network in that it will be a full year, and the payouts will be 4-6 million higher by my conservative estimate and between 7-9 million higher by the more optimistic estimates.

Its nothing new. That is revenue, not income.

Its the same numbers they released-$455 net which included $19 million in bowl expenses retained by the schools and $436 distributed-$31.2 million per school.

It was better than expected then, but it hasn't changed from what they released in May.

SEC average distributions over the last 4 years:
2011-12 $20.3 million
2012-13 $20.7
2013-14 $20.9
2014-15 $31.2

The playoff, SECN and other increases bumped it up $10.3 million over the previous year. The Big 12, without a conference network, increased $4.0 million over the previous year.

(01-19-2016 07:11 PM)bullet Wrote:  SEC average distributions over the last 4 years:
2011-12 $20.3 million
2012-13 $20.7
2013-14 $20.9
2014-15 $31.2

The playoff, SECN and other increases bumped it up $10.3 million over the previous year. The Big 12, without a conference network, increased $4.0 million over the previous year.

It doesn't matter Bullet. I just get tired of the income measurers. The hush effect of posting this in whatever form is always a relief, at least for a little while. That said we did finish up paying for the startup last year out of the shares so next year the bump I mentioned is in order. Besides we must brace ourselves for oodles of posts predicting huge numbers for the Big 10.

I think they will get a bump between 37-40. I don't see 45-50 given the present state of affairs both economically and with regards to the networks' projections.

1 thing to remember this year an extra 12.5 million dollars for having team in the Sugar Bowl vs Orange Bowl.

(01-20-2016 02:27 PM)stever20 Wrote:  1 thing to remember this year an extra 12.5 million dollars for having team in the Sugar Bowl vs Orange Bowl.

That and the overhead to the SECN is cleared and a full year's revenue and the bump from the end of paying back the overhead will add as well.

and of course it will all go towards training facilities, football coaches salaries, and nothing for basketball or anything else right?

(01-21-2016 01:44 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  and of course it will all go towards training facilities, football coaches salaries, and nothing for basketball or anything else right?

P R O B A B L Y !!!

(01-19-2016 07:11 PM)bullet Wrote:  SEC average distributions over the last 4 years:
2011-12 $20.3 million
2012-13 $20.7
2013-14 $20.9
2014-15 $31.2

The playoff, SECN and other increases bumped it up $10.3 million over the previous year. The Big 12, without a conference network, increased $4.0 million over the previous year.

Thanks Bullet!

That's good news for the ACC and it's planned start up television network. Good stuff!

(01-21-2016 08:39 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  That's good news for the ACC and it's planned start up television network. Good stuff!

Wait was that sarcasm or do people still think the ACC is getting a network?

Very nice! And probably should only get better over the next 7 years culminating in our next TV contract.

and the pie in the sky ACC network makes yet another appearance. Kind of like the tooth fairy and unicorns. Like ESPN is going to do it with the climate of cable tv today. Get real acc fanboy.

(01-19-2016 06:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The SECN did a little better than we thought even a few months ago!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/col.../79006606/


Take out the conference share and that's 35.16 million per school in a year that was only about 9 1/2 months for the network, and in the last year of our covering startup overhead.

Next year's numbers will be higher for the network in that it will be a full year, and the payouts will be 4-6 million higher by my conservative estimate and between 7-9 million higher by the more optimistic estimates.

That's a lot of loot. Obviously as a B1G fan I want to see the SEC rake it in cause thats gonna drive the market higher similar to the Yankees inflating the free agent market. The finances are really looking like SEC/B1G then everyone else.

(01-21-2016 08:39 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  That's good news for the ACC and it's planned start up television network. Good stuff!

What ACC network? ESPN owns all the ACC rights (even 3rd tier rights) until 2032 or something like that. They will not start up an ACC network. Let's say ESPN was a charity and did though: it wouldn't make much money. Cheers!

(01-21-2016 06:49 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 08:39 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  That's good news for the ACC and it's planned start up television network. Good stuff!

What ACC network? ESPN owns all the ACC rights (even 3rd tier rights) until 2032 or something like that. They will not start up an ACC network. Let's say ESPN was a charity and did though: it wouldn't make much money. Cheers!

Never say never. It may happen if the ACC network could be profitable.

(01-21-2016 08:06 PM)Big Ron Buckeye Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 06:49 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 08:39 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  That's good news for the ACC and it's planned start up television network. Good stuff!

What ACC network? ESPN owns all the ACC rights (even 3rd tier rights) until 2032 or something like that. They will not start up an ACC network. Let's say ESPN was a charity and did though: it wouldn't make much money. Cheers!

Never say never. It may happen if the ACC network could be profitable.

Or if ESPN could find a way out of the LHN? But as to your first post, yes. I think the gap is only growing. That's why I have said and will say that time, monetary disparity, and pressure are at work with regards to future realignment. As surely as precipitation causes erosion, the revenue gap will continue to form an accretion to the footprints of both of our conferences.

(01-21-2016 08:29 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 08:06 PM)Big Ron Buckeye Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 06:49 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 08:39 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  That's good news for the ACC and it's planned start up television network. Good stuff!

What ACC network? ESPN owns all the ACC rights (even 3rd tier rights) until 2032 or something like that. They will not start up an ACC network. Let's say ESPN was a charity and did though: it wouldn't make much money. Cheers!

Never say never. It may happen if the ACC network could be profitable.

Or if ESPN could find a way out of the LHN? But as to your first post, yes. I think the gap is only growing. That's why I have said and will say that time, monetary disparity, and pressure are at work with regards to future realignment. As surely as precipitation causes erosion, the revenue gap will continue to form an accretion to the footprints of both of our conferences.

I think that you're right in the short term, but growing conference revenues will squeeze everyone. Since I think there's more value on a per school basis on smaller conference in the wake of deregulation, I think that revenue pressures will tear big conferences apart.

If the SEC (or ACC or B1G) was smart, they would split in two and have some kind of scheduling agreement between the two halves, and they'd have an agreement to negotiate media rights jointly if need be. If nothing else, it would add another CCG and conference basketball championship game. Even if both of those are only 60% of the value of the combined FBCCG/BBCCG, that's still a free 20% of value. PLUS, it would allow for the possibility of an extra undefeated team. That has value in and of itself.

Conference footprints will grow. Then someone will get smart and they will shrink. Then everyone will get small and all conferences will shrink fast.

EDIT: It would also give the conference more political power AND allow for greater scheduling (i.e. like the SEC back in the day).