(01-17-2016 02:32 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 02:28 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 02:26 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote:  sports as a collective.........gotcha - we shouldn't invest in any other sports other than football and men's basketball. heaven forbid we should actually strive for nice facilities for all of our sports helping to be a well rounded athletic program. Blunderbuss: your hatred for baseball makes you very biased btw.

Those other sports aren't "investments". I figure an accountant could figure that out.

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just because the "return" isn't in the form of cash? well i definitely disagree with your entire mindset on this. bottom line is we desperately needed to upgrade that entire complex. especially the softball stadium when Title IX complaints started to come to surface.

Of course you disagree, you're the primary water carrier for our administration.

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(01-17-2016 02:34 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 02:32 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 02:28 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 02:26 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote:  sports as a collective.........gotcha - we shouldn't invest in any other sports other than football and men's basketball. heaven forbid we should actually strive for nice facilities for all of our sports helping to be a well rounded athletic program. Blunderbuss: your hatred for baseball makes you very biased btw.

Those other sports aren't "investments". I figure an accountant could figure that out.

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just because the "return" isn't in the form of cash? well i definitely disagree with your entire mindset on this. bottom line is we desperately needed to upgrade that entire complex. especially the softball stadium when Title IX complaints started to come to surface.

Of course you disagree, you're the primary water carrier for our administration.

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pretty easy to disagree considering some of the ignorant stuff you're posting on this board.

Let's just drop everything except men's bball and football. See what conference we'll be in then. Talk about a myopic point of view.

(01-17-2016 01:43 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:17 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 09:02 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 08:44 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 08:31 PM)Yung Knight Wrote:  lol

Ive seen the talent on both teams twice this season. And both times the same team won. This time by 20

Didn't ECU beat UCF three times last year? I don't see Lebo making progress. He's regressing and it's time to go. I expect he will be fired at the end of the season.

Yeah with half the team due to sanctions and three freshman starters. Also go check out the recruiting rankings champ

Sanctions brought on by your own cheating ass coach. Hell ECU is playing without multiple big men; again. And it is all Lebo's fault, because he doesn't give a damn. He did not get up off of his ass and go and get another big men even though he knew once again that one of his big men was going to miss another entire season. He does the same crap every year. He needs to be fired before the next game.

And fwiw it was tribble not Dj that got the bball program in trouble. Dj was complicit and got nailed with the show cause because of it. Were you going to turn the ad in?

Donnie Jones' cheating ways in Chicago AAU basketball circles is why UCF was was on probation to begin with. Tribble was dirty too, but Jones was cheating as well. There was also an incident involving that Center named Michael Chandler that Louisville was also trying to cheat to get.

Secondly, even when UCF had a full roster with Jones and before him Speraw (what ever his name was); Lebo still at least split season series with UCF if not just outright swept them. The fact of the business is that Lebo has just quit on the job at ECU. He doesn't even care anymore. He knew that his star shooting guard Whisnant was going pro early and that his starting Center Guilmette was likely to miss yet another season with an injury; but Lebo still didn't get up off of his ass to go out and get another JUCO big body to cover for them. And of course because Lebo is Lebo his prize 4* freshman "6'10" freshman big man recruit (Deng Riak) got hurt even before the season started.

And on top of all of that Lebo is losing his 2 most reliable big men stiffs to graduation (Aja and Zangaria) and of course Lebo wouldn't dare go out and sign any big men signed for next year, because he already has one coming back from injury; but Lebo did have time to sign 2 more athletic shooting guards already. Lebo needs to go and ECU needs to hire a new coach that can recruit a couple of ready to play JUCO big men, because ECU already has a roster full of talented guards and wing players. Just no bigs.

(01-17-2016 02:45 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:43 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:17 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 09:02 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 08:44 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Didn't ECU beat UCF three times last year? I don't see Lebo making progress. He's regressing and it's time to go. I expect he will be fired at the end of the season.

Yeah with half the team due to sanctions and three freshman starters. Also go check out the recruiting rankings champ

Sanctions brought on by your own cheating ass coach. Hell ECU is playing without multiple big men; again. And it is all Lebo's fault, because he doesn't give a damn. He did not get up off of his ass and go and get another big men even though he knew once again that one of his big men was going to miss another entire season. He does the same crap every year. He needs to be fired before the next game.

And fwiw it was tribble not Dj that got the bball program in trouble. Dj was complicit and got nailed with the show cause because of it. Were you going to turn the ad in?

Donnie Jones' cheating ways in Chicago AAU basketball circles is why UCF was was on probation to begin with. Tribble was dirty too, but Jones was cheating as well. There was also an incident involving that Center named Michael Chandler that Louisville was also trying to cheat to get.

Secondly, even when UCF had a full roster with Jones and before him Speraw (what ever his name was); Lebo still at least split season series with UCF if not just outright swept them. The fact of the business is that Lebo has just quit on the job at ECU. He doesn't even care anymore. He knew that his star shooting guard Whisnant was going pro early and that his starting Center Guilmette was likely to miss yet another season with an injury; but Lebo still didn't get up off of his ass to go out and get another JUCO big body to cover for them. And of course because Lebo is Lebo his prize 4* freshman "6'10" freshman big man recruit (Deng Riak) got hurt even before the season started.

And on top of all of that Lebo is losing his 2 most reliable big men stiffs to graduation (Aja and Zangaria) and of course Lebo wouldn't dare go out and sign any big men signed for next year, because he already has one coming back from injury; but Lebo did have time to sign 2 more athletic shooting guards already. Lebo needs to go and ECU needs to hire a new coach that can recruit a couple of ready to play JUCO big men, because ECU already has a roster full of talented guards and wing players. Just no bigs.

Ucf has a winning record vs ecu. I don't think it is even close.

The runner actually started under Speraw and to be clear if you recruit in some inner cities, they all have versions of runners. The same runner worked with BC and Indiana to name a few. Nothing happened to them. College basketball is a dirty sport. If ECU doesn't get into the slime of basketball recruiting it is tough to have a good team. Chandler while he was under the runner really wanted to come to ucf. Deeply pissed he couldn't come here after ncaa got involved.

(01-17-2016 02:45 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:43 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:17 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 09:02 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 08:44 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Didn't ECU beat UCF three times last year? I don't see Lebo making progress. He's regressing and it's time to go. I expect he will be fired at the end of the season.

Yeah with half the team due to sanctions and three freshman starters. Also go check out the recruiting rankings champ

Sanctions brought on by your own cheating ass coach. Hell ECU is playing without multiple big men; again. And it is all Lebo's fault, because he doesn't give a damn. He did not get up off of his ass and go and get another big men even though he knew once again that one of his big men was going to miss another entire season. He does the same crap every year. He needs to be fired before the next game.

And fwiw it was tribble not Dj that got the bball program in trouble. Dj was complicit and got nailed with the show cause because of it. Were you going to turn the ad in?

Donnie Jones' cheating ways in Chicago AAU basketball circles is why UCF was was on probation to begin with. Tribble was dirty too, but Jones was cheating as well. There was also an incident involving that Center named Michael Chandler that Louisville was also trying to cheat to get.

Secondly, even when UCF had a full roster with Jones and before him Speraw (what ever his name was); Lebo still at least split season series with UCF if not just outright swept them. The fact of the business is that Lebo has just quit on the job at ECU. He doesn't even care anymore. He knew that his star shooting guard Whisnant was going pro early and that his starting Center Guilmette was likely to miss yet another season with an injury; but Lebo still didn't get up off of his ass to go out and get another JUCO big body to cover for them. And of course because Lebo is Lebo his prize 4* freshman "6'10" freshman big man recruit (Deng Riak) got hurt even before the season started.

And on top of all of that Lebo is losing his 2 most reliable big men stiffs to graduation (Aja and Zangaria) and of course Lebo wouldn't dare go out and sign any big men signed for next year, because he already has one coming back from injury; but Lebo did have time to sign 2 more athletic shooting guards already. Lebo needs to go and ECU needs to hire a new coach that can recruit a couple of ready to play JUCO big men, because ECU already has a roster full of talented guards and wing players. Just no bigs.

The Chicago stuff was tribbles runner. Doesn't change the original argument regarding last years results and this years talent.

At least UCF was trying.

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(01-17-2016 08:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 10:53 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  UCF has 2 three stars, and a 2 star. Studs

I really don't understand this....we have 3 guys on the team? Our bench is full of 3 star guys. BJ Taylor although injured was an upper 3 star and would have been 4 if he didn't verbal early. You can try to diss the talent, but it just isn't the case. We dont even have a legit PG which is a gapping hole against really good teams. We won't have that issue next year. If we had BJ Taylor our few 1 loss games likely would be wins.

Anyway, I don't necessarily think it is coaching. Just lacking talent at the #4 and #5 and ecu likely improves a ton.

So you're talking about recruiting rankings from 3 years ago over college production? LOL. Take a lap

(01-17-2016 03:58 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 10:53 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  UCF has 2 three stars, and a 2 star. Studs

I really don't understand this....we have 3 guys on the team? Our bench is full of 3 star guys. BJ Taylor although injured was an upper 3 star and would have been 4 if he didn't verbal early. You can try to diss the talent, but it just isn't the case. We dont even have a legit PG which is a gapping hole against really good teams. We won't have that issue next year. If we had BJ Taylor our few 1 loss games likely would be wins.

Anyway, I don't necessarily think it is coaching. Just lacking talent at the #4 and #5 and ecu likely improves a ton.

So you're talking about recruiting rankings from 3 years ago over college production? LOL. Take a lap

Go back to the origin of the conversation regarding talent and that last years season was used an example of why ecu's were superior. Serious question, are your gold away jerseys throw backs?

(01-17-2016 04:47 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 03:58 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 10:53 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  UCF has 2 three stars, and a 2 star. Studs

I really don't understand this....we have 3 guys on the team? Our bench is full of 3 star guys. BJ Taylor although injured was an upper 3 star and would have been 4 if he didn't verbal early. You can try to diss the talent, but it just isn't the case. We dont even have a legit PG which is a gapping hole against really good teams. We won't have that issue next year. If we had BJ Taylor our few 1 loss games likely would be wins.

Anyway, I don't necessarily think it is coaching. Just lacking talent at the #4 and #5 and ecu likely improves a ton.

So you're talking about recruiting rankings from 3 years ago over college production? LOL. Take a lap

Go back to the origin of the conversation regarding talent and that last years season was used an example of why ecu's were superior. Serious question, are your gold away jerseys throw backs?

Throw back for the players when they were ten playing in rec leagues maybe

Pirates, can we stop this ******* infighting that has been happening for the better part of 6 months now? I don't know what happened but damn it seems like every pirate hates every other pirate nowadays.


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(01-17-2016 03:21 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 02:45 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:43 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 01:17 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 09:02 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  Yeah with half the team due to sanctions and three freshman starters. Also go check out the recruiting rankings champ

Sanctions brought on by your own cheating ass coach. Hell ECU is playing without multiple big men; again. And it is all Lebo's fault, because he doesn't give a damn. He did not get up off of his ass and go and get another big men even though he knew once again that one of his big men was going to miss another entire season. He does the same crap every year. He needs to be fired before the next game.

And fwiw it was tribble not Dj that got the bball program in trouble. Dj was complicit and got nailed with the show cause because of it. Were you going to turn the ad in?

Donnie Jones' cheating ways in Chicago AAU basketball circles is why UCF was was on probation to begin with. Tribble was dirty too, but Jones was cheating as well. There was also an incident involving that Center named Michael Chandler that Louisville was also trying to cheat to get.

Secondly, even when UCF had a full roster with Jones and before him Speraw (what ever his name was); Lebo still at least split season series with UCF if not just outright swept them. The fact of the business is that Lebo has just quit on the job at ECU. He doesn't even care anymore. He knew that his star shooting guard Whisnant was going pro early and that his starting Center Guilmette was likely to miss yet another season with an injury; but Lebo still didn't get up off of his ass to go out and get another JUCO big body to cover for them. And of course because Lebo is Lebo his prize 4* freshman "6'10" freshman big man recruit (Deng Riak) got hurt even before the season started.

And on top of all of that Lebo is losing his 2 most reliable big men stiffs to graduation (Aja and Zangaria) and of course Lebo wouldn't dare go out and sign any big men signed for next year, because he already has one coming back from injury; but Lebo did have time to sign 2 more athletic shooting guards already. Lebo needs to go and ECU needs to hire a new coach that can recruit a couple of ready to play JUCO big men, because ECU already has a roster full of talented guards and wing players. Just no bigs.

The Chicago stuff was tribbles runner. Doesn't change the original argument regarding last years results and this years talent.

Actually no...he was rompaza buddy and went on the recruiting trip to visit Speraw. Speraw wasn't even initially sold on him and had to pray about it before the night. Offered him a scholarship the next day. Which open connections to more Chicago recruits. He know AJ since he was 10 which would probably disqualify any runner status with him.

I miss the good old days. Michael Jordan in the crowd and getting 7,000 for many games.

(01-17-2016 03:58 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 10:53 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  UCF has 2 three stars, and a 2 star. Studs

I really don't understand this....we have 3 guys on the team? Our bench is full of 3 star guys. BJ Taylor although injured was an upper 3 star and would have been 4 if he didn't verbal early. You can try to diss the talent, but it just isn't the case. We dont even have a legit PG which is a gapping hole against really good teams. We won't have that issue next year. If we had BJ Taylor our few 1 loss games likely would be wins.

Anyway, I don't necessarily think it is coaching. Just lacking talent at the #4 and #5 and ecu likely improves a ton.

So you're talking about recruiting rankings from 3 years ago over college production? LOL. Take a lap

No...college production matters but you said we had 2 three stars and 1 2 star. Most everyone we get is 3 star. Don't understand the comment. You're assuming you have more talent. I don't know how you're making that assumption?

(01-17-2016 06:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 03:58 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 10:53 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  UCF has 2 three stars, and a 2 star. Studs

I really don't understand this....we have 3 guys on the team? Our bench is full of 3 star guys. BJ Taylor although injured was an upper 3 star and would have been 4 if he didn't verbal early. You can try to diss the talent, but it just isn't the case. We dont even have a legit PG which is a gapping hole against really good teams. We won't have that issue next year. If we had BJ Taylor our few 1 loss games likely would be wins.

Anyway, I don't necessarily think it is coaching. Just lacking talent at the #4 and #5 and ecu likely improves a ton.

So you're talking about recruiting rankings from 3 years ago over college production? LOL. Take a lap

No...college production matters but you said we had 2 three stars and 1 2 star. Most everyone we get is 3 star. Don't understand the comment. You're assuming you have more talent. I don't know how you're making that assumption?

With my eyeballs

(01-18-2016 12:02 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 06:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 03:58 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 10:53 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  UCF has 2 three stars, and a 2 star. Studs

I really don't understand this....we have 3 guys on the team? Our bench is full of 3 star guys. BJ Taylor although injured was an upper 3 star and would have been 4 if he didn't verbal early. You can try to diss the talent, but it just isn't the case. We dont even have a legit PG which is a gapping hole against really good teams. We won't have that issue next year. If we had BJ Taylor our few 1 loss games likely would be wins.

Anyway, I don't necessarily think it is coaching. Just lacking talent at the #4 and #5 and ecu likely improves a ton.

So you're talking about recruiting rankings from 3 years ago over college production? LOL. Take a lap

No...college production matters but you said we had 2 three stars and 1 2 star. Most everyone we get is 3 star. Don't understand the comment. You're assuming you have more talent. I don't know how you're making that assumption?

With my eyeballs

Your eyeballs can't judge talent. Definitely a few players with some potential, but the full lineup is average a best. Ucf has issues too. We don't have a real PG.

(01-18-2016 12:10 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-18-2016 12:02 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 06:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 03:58 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  I really don't understand this....we have 3 guys on the team? Our bench is full of 3 star guys. BJ Taylor although injured was an upper 3 star and would have been 4 if he didn't verbal early. You can try to diss the talent, but it just isn't the case. We dont even have a legit PG which is a gapping hole against really good teams. We won't have that issue next year. If we had BJ Taylor our few 1 loss games likely would be wins.

Anyway, I don't necessarily think it is coaching. Just lacking talent at the #4 and #5 and ecu likely improves a ton.

So you're talking about recruiting rankings from 3 years ago over college production? LOL. Take a lap

No...college production matters but you said we had 2 three stars and 1 2 star. Most everyone we get is 3 star. Don't understand the comment. You're assuming you have more talent. I don't know how you're making that assumption?

With my eyeballs

Your eyeballs can't judge talent. Definitely a few players with some potential, but the full lineup is average a best. Ucf has issues too. We don't have a real PG.

Nevermind

(01-18-2016 12:02 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 06:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 03:58 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 10:53 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  UCF has 2 three stars, and a 2 star. Studs

I really don't understand this....we have 3 guys on the team? Our bench is full of 3 star guys. BJ Taylor although injured was an upper 3 star and would have been 4 if he didn't verbal early. You can try to diss the talent, but it just isn't the case. We dont even have a legit PG which is a gapping hole against really good teams. We won't have that issue next year. If we had BJ Taylor our few 1 loss games likely would be wins.

Anyway, I don't necessarily think it is coaching. Just lacking talent at the #4 and #5 and ecu likely improves a ton.

So you're talking about recruiting rankings from 3 years ago over college production? LOL. Take a lap

No...college production matters but you said we had 2 three stars and 1 2 star. Most everyone we get is 3 star. Don't understand the comment. You're assuming you have more talent. I don't know how you're making that assumption?

With my eyeballs

Yeah the most talented team usually loses by 20 lol you're in denial

(01-18-2016 08:04 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(01-18-2016 12:02 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 06:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 03:58 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  I really don't understand this....we have 3 guys on the team? Our bench is full of 3 star guys. BJ Taylor although injured was an upper 3 star and would have been 4 if he didn't verbal early. You can try to diss the talent, but it just isn't the case. We dont even have a legit PG which is a gapping hole against really good teams. We won't have that issue next year. If we had BJ Taylor our few 1 loss games likely would be wins.

Anyway, I don't necessarily think it is coaching. Just lacking talent at the #4 and #5 and ecu likely improves a ton.

So you're talking about recruiting rankings from 3 years ago over college production? LOL. Take a lap

No...college production matters but you said we had 2 three stars and 1 2 star. Most everyone we get is 3 star. Don't understand the comment. You're assuming you have more talent. I don't know how you're making that assumption?

With my eyeballs

Yeah the most talented team usually loses by 20 lol you're in denial

We had our run, it was called the CIT and for East Carolina it's like Halley's Comet. Bottom line thus far this year is that our entire athletic department has seemed to regress. I can only hope that Godwin can keep the baseball team headed in the right direction. As for Lebo, I believe like at Auburn, that he's taken the program as far as he can take it and regardless of how the rest of the season goes, it's time for a shakeup.

(01-18-2016 08:04 AM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(01-18-2016 12:02 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 06:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 03:58 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 08:05 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  I really don't understand this....we have 3 guys on the team? Our bench is full of 3 star guys. BJ Taylor although injured was an upper 3 star and would have been 4 if he didn't verbal early. You can try to diss the talent, but it just isn't the case. We dont even have a legit PG which is a gapping hole against really good teams. We won't have that issue next year. If we had BJ Taylor our few 1 loss games likely would be wins.

Anyway, I don't necessarily think it is coaching. Just lacking talent at the #4 and #5 and ecu likely improves a ton.

So you're talking about recruiting rankings from 3 years ago over college production? LOL. Take a lap

No...college production matters but you said we had 2 three stars and 1 2 star. Most everyone we get is 3 star. Don't understand the comment. You're assuming you have more talent. I don't know how you're making that assumption?

With my eyeballs

Yeah the most talented team usually loses by 20 lol you're in denial

We beat UNC 70-41 in football last year. Were we more talented, no. But we cared way more than they did. This team gave up 2 weeks ago