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RE: UT Runner Noe attacked, burned.
(01-25-2016 10:32 PM)Carolina Rocket Wrote:  
Quote:In the original post when I quoted the "never run again," "2nd and 3rd degree burns over 70%,".... that came directly from the GoFundMe writer. Seems kind of unfair to be calling out anyone in the media for "sensationalism."

Probably wouldn't hurt for someone to edit the title of the thread, though. Stupid human tricks and "Attacked" are extremely different things...

Tread title reflects the words used on the source information. I believe they used the word "assault." I haven't seen anything that says that line of thinking has changed.
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What I have heard is that there were a number of other mens Cross Country members when this happened and they fled the scene. Has there been any punishment handed out to these cowards that ran when this poor girl needed them most?
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(01-26-2016 11:14 PM)Rocketfan4life Wrote:  What I have heard is that there were a number of other mens Cross Country members when this happened and they fled the scene. Has there been any punishment handed out to these cowards that ran when this poor girl needed them most?

"Investigation on-going"

Wouldn't we agree that speculation and rumors are probably not the way to go with this? This is something a bit more than, will they be a Rocket or won't they or a QB controversy.
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RE: UT Runner Noe attacked, burned.
Arrest for aggrevated arson made in the Noe case: http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2...-case.html

He looks 12 in the picture.
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Obviously I don't know the know the whole story, but Aggravated Arson seems a little harsh.
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RE: UT Runner Noe attacked, burned.
(02-29-2016 07:03 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  Obviously I don't know the know the whole story, but Aggravated Arson seems a little harsh.

Quote: Ohio Revised Code 2909.02 (http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2909.02) defines “aggravated arson” as follows:
“(A) No person, by means of fire or explosion, shall knowingly do any of the following:
(1) Create a substantial risk of serious physical harm to any person other than the offender;
(2) Cause physical harm to any occupied structure;
(3) Create, through the offer or acceptance of an agreement for hire or other consideration, a substantial risk of physical harm to any occupied structure.
(B)
(1) Whoever violates this section is guilty of aggravated arson.
(2) A violation of division (A)(1) or (3) of this section is a felony of the first degree.
(3) A violation of division (A)(2) of this section is a felony of the second degree.”
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Aggravated arson. Exactly the right charge.
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This was stupid rather than malicious, I suspect, but stupid probably does as much or more harm.
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(02-29-2016 06:43 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Arrest for aggrevated arson made in the Noe case: http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2...-case.html

He looks 12 in the picture.

That's his 2014 UTXC photo, too. That's really strange.

http://utrockets.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1992&path=mcross
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(02-29-2016 08:21 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  This was stupid rather than malicious, I suspect, but stupid probably does as much or more harm.

What sounds like a fire breathing prank, where it seems only one person is in direct line of fire? Perhaps more than one person doing it? People taking turns. It's not likely any full story will ever be public though I imagine there's many lessons to be learned that won't be learned because of it.

He wouldn't want me on the jury deciding it was stupid. But I don't have much sympathy for drunk drivers either.

I imagine there will be clear directions to the line between stupid and malicious and civilly, who is responsible at what percent.
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(02-29-2016 09:21 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(02-29-2016 08:21 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  This was stupid rather than malicious, I suspect, but stupid probably does as much or more harm.

What sounds like a fire breathing prank, where it seems only one person is in direct line of fire? Perhaps more than one person doing it? People taking turns. It's not likely any full story will ever be public though I imagine there's many lessons to be learned that won't be learned because of it.

He wouldn't want me on the jury deciding it was stupid. But I don't have much sympathy for drunk drivers either.

I imagine there will be clear directions to the line between stupid and malicious and civilly, who is responsible at what percent.

Good point. There could be a civil trial in addition to the criminal charges, and the definition of "responsibility" in a civil case is different than "intent" in a criminal case.
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so is the thread labeled correctly - was she actually attacked in this incident or was it just a stupid act by someone without the intent to injure her? If he did it on purpose - then he needs to have the maximum sentence handed down. If it was stupidity, he will be punished both criminally and financially (or his parents may be punished) and will be a convicted felon for the rest of his life. That is a pretty heavy load to take on - but by no means worse than what he inflicted on Janelle Noe. I hope justice is served fairly and that both are able to move on from this and do something wonderful with their lives. They cannot let this incident define the rest of their lives.
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(02-29-2016 08:35 PM)Carolina Rocket Wrote:  
(02-29-2016 06:43 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  Arrest for aggrevated arson made in the Noe case: http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2...-case.html

He looks 12 in the picture.

That's his 2014 UTXC photo, too. That's really strange.

http://utrockets.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=1992&path=mcross

Not on the current roster. I'm not sure whether it was due to this incident or if he left the team before. Just turned twenty in Feb. look at the other x-country runners. They ALL look twelve because they're 5'3" and 120 pounds.
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(03-01-2016 03:37 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  so is the thread labeled correctly - was she actually attacked in this incident or was it just a stupid act by someone without the intent to injure her? If he did it on purpose - then he needs to have the maximum sentence handed down. If it was stupidity, he will be punished both criminally and financially (or his parents may be punished) and will be a convicted felon for the rest of his life. That is a pretty heavy load to take on - but by no means worse than what he inflicted on Janelle Noe. I hope justice is served fairly and that both are able to move on from this and do something wonderful with their lives. They cannot let this incident define the rest of their lives.

Excellent points Motor. We've all been there before, do something stupid with no intentions to injure or hurt anyone. Most of us have gotten away with it, but a small percentage of those stupid decisions result in someone or people getting hurt. Yes, consequences and accountability need to upheld. But to have the book thrown at this kid, I feel is a little extreme. Don't get me wrong, I feel awful this has happened to Miss Noe, but hopefully both are able to do great things with their lives.
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I kind of always thought that 1st Degree would mean that the person intended to do it? Planned it? Really brutal scenario on all fronts. One kid scarred for life and the other's life scarred. I hope that he learns all the lessons to be learned and moves on with his life and does some good.
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