App can't get NCSU or UNCCH to return our call and ECU is treating App like Memphis is treating Ark St.

Wake, UNCC, ODU, Marshall are playing us because we will travel to their games.

If you scheduled WKU or MTSU and brought 5k fans they'd be willing to play you.

Georgia Southern's G5 scheduling (or lack thereof) has been the only issue I have had with our AD. I know some of our fans don't want us scheduling many MAC teams (which has been the bulk of the G5's on our schedule) but I'm all for it. Bring on more Ball St, Kent St, Ohio and the like at least they have not been afraid to sign on the dotted line with us.

(01-28-2016 01:49 PM)WIowl Wrote:  

(01-28-2016 01:28 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  When instate teams won't play you, local P5's want nothing to do with you, and the nearby G5 scared of losing to you, these type situations happen.

The Good news is the Mountain West and MAC aren't chickens. CUSA teams/Tiger High can avoid us like the plague, but our friendly neighbors from the North and West will always be willing to provide a game.

Each team has its own list of scheduling priorities. Rice doesn't have an anti-SunBelt approach, it's whether the teams can fit in the dates that are left over. I am sure Arkansas State has its own list of priorities.

At Rice, I think we try to play, in priority: 1) Houston ('17-18), 2) former SWC foes (6 game home and home Baylor series, UT, A&M), and 3) similar academic and service academies (Stanford, Army, Northwestern, and Notre Dame/Duke in the past)

It doesn't leave that much room for the OOC. If Rice left CUSA for MWC/AAC, I don't think we would continue scheduling any of the CUSA teams in OOC.

http://www.riceowls.com/sports/m-footbl/...dules.html

Our only priority is 6 home games. Otherwise, we'll play anyone..

(01-28-2016 02:00 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  App can't get NCSU or UNCCH to return our call and ECU is treating App like Memphis is treating Ark St.

Wake, UNCC, ODU, Marshall are playing us because we will travel to their games.

If you scheduled WKU or MTSU and brought 5k fans they'd be willing to play you.

Not really. App has a gigantic alum base in a very nearby area to almost all of those schools.

Our largest alum base outside of Jonesboro is in Little Rock. For most alums, even a game at MTSU is a 5 hour plus drive. We've routinely sent large crowds to Memphis, but that's gotten us nowhere.

(01-28-2016 02:05 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Our only priority is 6 home games. Otherwise, we'll play anyone..

Kind of, you'll play anyone on your terms, lower P5 schools home and home only, G5s home and homes only, upper P5s - $1M+.

While it is true you'll play anyone, you do have stipulations (none of which I disagree with).

Don't take my commit the wrong way, I appreciate what Ark St. does, from a business perspective your actions help drive improvements for the G5. If everyone acted in the same responsible nature all G5 members would benefit.

(01-28-2016 02:09 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2016 02:00 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  App can't get NCSU or UNCCH to return our call and ECU is treating App like Memphis is treating Ark St.

Wake, UNCC, ODU, Marshall are playing us because we will travel to their games.

If you scheduled WKU or MTSU and brought 5k fans they'd be willing to play you.

Not really. App has a gigantic alum base in a very nearby area to almost all of those schools.

Our largest alum base outside of Jonesboro is in Little Rock. For most alums, even a game at MTSU is a 5 hour plus drive. We've routinely sent large crowds to Memphis, but that's gotten us nowhere.

App's largest alumni base is 5 hours from Marshall and ODU. It is close to Wake and UNCC.

We took 6-8k to ECU in the mid-2000's twice and we can't get a home and home with them.

MTSU and WKU make a lot of sense if you can make it worth it for them at the gate.

(01-27-2016 04:52 AM)airtroop Wrote:  

(01-27-2016 04:22 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 10:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 08:56 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 07:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  We need to get this one guarantee game max per season thing passed. I think the only two programs who schedule more than one guarantee now are ULM and Georgia Southern.

Why does it matter?

WKU got ranked with a loss to Indiana and an uncompetitive loss to LSU.

That's because College Football polls are a popularity contest, not because WKU was a top 25 team...

Keep believing that but you're probably right...should have been top 20

Now to all of this nonsense about espn giving the SBC more money. Honest question does the SBC teams get any money from espn? Or does it just cover the conference expense like it use to? Now I need someone to explain to me WHY espn would pay out more money to the SBC? It's not like someone else is going to step up and offer the SBC anything more than espn is paying...

espn didn't get to where they are today by paying the little people more than they are worth. Nope that is only for what espn deems as valuable.

Now for all of this nonsense about CUSA 2 CUSA 3 or CUSA 2.9 ....

The conference had back to back top 25 schools and that's happened only once before in the last 12 years. The other was 2010/2011. No one cares about the bottom of a conference...

so our bottom is better than yours...DOES NOT MATTER. Both suck to the 10th degree but still NO ONE CARES. Well no one but the fans of both conference. Just as NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the AAC. Just like NO ONE CARES about the bottom of the MWC....

The bottom is not a thought..doesn't exist to anyone but the fans of that conference. If it's 4 if it's 5 if its 6....NO ONE CARES

As for the top...the SBC is just as far away from CUSA as you always were. Especially when you have FCS fans shouting about CLOSE LOSSES. Again this isn;t FCS...NO ONE CARES about GSU getting close losses...

you got beat. Other than that the losses wasn't even a thought to fans not in the SBC...NO ONE CARES. For the few of you that are dismissing the top 25 poll...

most of you would give your right nut to be ranked....don't lie to yourself. Well maybe not your nut but if it meant you had to kiss someones ass to get rank...most of you would. The only reason Chief and the GSU fan is putting it down...it wasn't your school. If we are being honest...more than likely, it never will be your school....

If you want to point to the schools that left CUSA...

point that finger right back to the SBC because 7 out of 12 SBC championships ...moved to CUSA 2001-12. Hell FIU the school some of you point to as a failure. A market move that did not work...has more conference titles than every school in the SBC other than Troy and ASU.

Lets be honest most people look at Appy and GSU being about to come in and compete at the top of the SBC as ...the conference being so weak. Not as those schools being good. Well that is if they think about it at all. But if they do...

it's because fans of every other conference perception is reality when it comes to the SBC...

GSU and Appy winning and almost winning a conference championship makes it reality to those fans. I'm sure you all can guess what that perception is. So while Houston and ECU and UCF and USF are gone from CUSA...

there are other schools getting into the top 25 poll. And before Marshall was ranked last year ...those schools that left had 4 AP end of the year top 25 ranking between them while a member of CUSA...

2010 Central Florida and Tulsa
2011 Houston
1998 Tulane

No perception...just fact

Dude, REALLY??? You are in a conference with 14 teams and we have the fewest number of schools in D-I and you are flaming us because we don't have a Top 25 every year? REALLY???

In a top-heavy, over-bloated conference full of pansies, you'd better DAMN well have a team in the Top 25 EVERY... EVERY frigging year or you're BEYOND pathetic! Do you understand math? If so, you'd know your conference represents WELL over 10% of FBS teams. If you fail to have a Top 25 EVERY year you'd best just fold that joke of a conference of yours and try again.

Keep your BS to your own COOSA board because the crap don't wash here. C-USA is the most pathetic conference in America RPI-wise. Google it. And yet, you beat your chest because your last-ranked conference has a Top 25 who'd (in my opinion) get WAXED by GaSo any day of the week?

When did South Al get invited to the Big XII??! Congrats!!!!!!!!

(01-28-2016 09:41 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-28-2016 09:16 AM)appstate70 Wrote:  

(01-28-2016 08:51 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  CUSA went 5-1 against the Sunbelt this year.

CUSA had the second highest G5 OOC win%, Sunbelt last again with 27% (bias free matrix)

CUSA is ranked higher in the computer polls. RPI isnt used by the CFP or any conference to determine who the champion is, the computer polls are used. RPI has never been relevent in FBS football.


Not to mention the 4th place CUSA dominated the best Sunbelt team in the NO Bowl. Arkansas State was the best team in the Sunbelt with the best record and undefeated so the crappy MAC and MWC teams that GA south and App state beat are irrelevent to this discussion.

And what was that App State vs. ODU score? And App beat Ohio, and remind us all what the score was between the same Ohio team versus Marshall.

The same app state that got waxed at home by Arkansas State and we all know what happen in the NO Bowl. You dont want to play that game besides CUSA was 5-1 against the Sunbelt. CUSA owned the Sunbelt this year. Case closed

Not playing a game, just asked you a simple question that you failed to answer.

(01-28-2016 08:51 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Not to mention the 4th place CUSA dominated the best Sunbelt team in the NO Bowl. Arkansas State was the best team in the Sunbelt with the best record and undefeated so the crappy MAC and MWC teams that GA south and App state beat are irrelevent to this discussion.

The # 5 SBC team (South Alabama) beat an 11-win #1 MWC Champion team San Diego State in San Diego. That doesn't tell the entire story of the season for either team. It wouldn't in your case either.

(01-28-2016 07:44 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(01-28-2016 08:51 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Not to mention the 4th place CUSA dominated the best Sunbelt team in the NO Bowl. Arkansas State was the best team in the Sunbelt with the best record and undefeated so the crappy MAC and MWC teams that GA south and App state beat are irrelevent to this discussion.

The # 5 SBC team (South Alabama) beat an 11-win #1 MWC Champion team San Diego State in San Diego. That doesn't tell the entire story of the season for either team. It wouldn't in your case either.

Latech fans like to make up their own stories and tell than as they go.

Why don't we have our own G5 playoff then, so we really find out instead of measuring d*cks?

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In the Massey composite, the SBC had 7 schools ranked between 100-128 and CUSA had 9. If Idaho and NMSU are not extended the SBC has 5 vs 9 in CUSA. CUSA has a problem with a lot of dead weight they are stuck with. SBC can be nimble now that realignment is done.

(01-28-2016 01:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2016 01:34 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  App has those same issues, which we have overcome.

With all due respect, you guys have no idea what we have it like. Marshall, Charlotte, Old Dominion, and Wake Forrest have all been willing to schedule you, and began doing so immediately after you reached FBS. Even ECU has indicated willingness, despite the fact they seem to be adverse to doing a home and home.

The same willingness doesn't exist over here. We contacted all 14 CUSA schools in the last year about games, and found zero takers. Memphis has had an open invite for 2 years now, but has turned down each approach. The Instate P5 would rather let their program die than play us, and nearby P5's like Ole Miss have also indicated they are not willing to play.

Outside of Mazlahn at Auburn agreeing to play us regularly as some sort of pay it forward thing, we have no even semi regular series available. We can get the cross country games...but those guys are going to always look local before they turn here, making it hard to schedule in advance. We've already made it clear to fans we may have to play 2 FCS in a season if we can't find willing opponents. Almost happened a couple years ago had Missouri not had a last minute cancellation.

What's the story with the scheduling woes?

(01-28-2016 01:34 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  App has those same issues, which we have overcome.

How have we overcome the in state issue? NC State, UNC, ECU, Duke won't schedule us.

(01-28-2016 07:44 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(01-28-2016 08:51 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Not to mention the 4th place CUSA dominated the best Sunbelt team in the NO Bowl. Arkansas State was the best team in the Sunbelt with the best record and undefeated so the crappy MAC and MWC teams that GA south and App state beat are irrelevent to this discussion.

The # 5 SBC team (South Alabama) beat an 11-win #1 MWC Champion team San Diego State in San Diego. That doesn't tell the entire story of the season for either team. It wouldn't in your case either.

Well, first of all, ASU wasn't really "dominated" in that bowl game. By the second half we were down our #1 RB, #1 WR and top 2 OL and it showed. Still, it was even until very late in the 3rd and half of their yards came in the 4th. Take away Dixon, their top WR and top 2 OL and give us ours back and there would be a huge impact.

Still, you cannot dismiss the games where the results do not support your lame assertions just because they do not fit your narrative. The point about the USA win is a very good one. Putting a lot of meaning into any one game is always foolish.

It is hilarious the way you hear nothing in the years that we finish ahead of CUSA in the ratings but as soon as they get ahead of us, the fans of some schools are ready to latch on to those ratings for all eternity. The fact that there is so much up and down in the CFP from year to year just proves that the G5 leagues are really pretty much the same. I guess people need something to argue about in the offseason.

(01-29-2016 10:43 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  It is hilarious the way you hear nothing in the years that we finish ahead of CUSA in the ratings but as soon as they get ahead of us, the fans of some schools are ready to latch on to those ratings for all eternity. The fact that there is so much up and down in the CFP from year to year just proves that the G5 leagues are really pretty much the same. I guess people need something to argue about in the offseason.

I say we settle this once and for all I challenge CUSA to sign 4 home & homes with:
WKU vs stAte
Marshall vs App
So. Miss vs GS
LA Tech vs ULL

After these 8 games are played the winner of 5 or more can have bragging rites.

App has the back half of a H&H with SMU in 2018 and a H&H with Marshall scheduled for 2021 and 2022.

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(01-29-2016 12:14 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Why don't we have our own G5 playoff then, so we really find out instead of measuring d*cks?

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Because... then what would we complain about. You can't use the I'm a grower not a show-er excuse when you just played the best the other conference had to offer and x result happened.

Plus as Kenny Powers says, there is some consolation in not being as endowed. You get a better BJ.

(01-29-2016 10:38 AM)fjblair Wrote:  

(01-28-2016 01:34 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  App has those same issues, which we have overcome.

How have we overcome the in state issue? NC State, UNC, ECU, Duke won't schedule us.

I was speaking to the fact we've scheduled four CUSA programs to H&Hs.