Seems to me, the SBC is now free to dump New Mexico St. and Idaho. Will they do that?

Would seem to be all but a foregone conclusion, will also impact the B12 as they will not have to expand to have a CCG

I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

Agreed. Gives the Big 12 and SBC the flexibility to do whatever they decide is best.

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

They would be better off playing 4 division games then just three crossover games. Then schedule a FCS game (the years they only have three home conference games) then schedule more out of conference games for more money and more chances at upsets of P5 local teams. This extra nonconference game will help GA Sou play UGA every year on the road and a chance to make it a yearly rivalry maybe some years play the gamein Atl as a neutral site. Same goes for USA and Bama, Troy and Auburn, App and Tenn, CCU and USC! Ark St and Ark (might get agame in LR). UL and LSU, etc.

(01-14-2016 08:29 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

They would be better off playing 4 division games then just three crossover games. Then schedule a FCS game (the years they only have three home conference games) then schedule more out of conference games for more money and more chances at upsets of P5 local teams. This extra nonconference game will help GA Sou play UGA every year on the road and a chance to make it a yearly rivalry maybe some years play the gamein Atl as a neutral site. Same goes for USA and Bama, Troy and Auburn, App and Tenn, CCU and USC! Ark St and Ark (might get agame in LR). UL and LSU, etc.

The University of Arkansas does not, and will not ever...ever...ever....agree to play any other Arkansas school's team in ANY OFFICIAL SPORT WHATSOEVER.

(01-14-2016 08:57 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 08:29 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

They would be better off playing 4 division games then just three crossover games. Then schedule a FCS game (the years they only have three home conference games) then schedule more out of conference games for more money and more chances at upsets of P5 local teams. This extra nonconference game will help GA Sou play UGA every year on the road and a chance to make it a yearly rivalry maybe some years play the gamein Atl as a neutral site. Same goes for USA and Bama, Troy and Auburn, App and Tenn, CCU and USC! Ark St and Ark (might get agame in LR). UL and LSU, etc.

The University of Arkansas does not, and will not ever...ever...ever....agree to play any other Arkansas school's team in ANY OFFICIAL SPORT WHATSOEVER.

Oh don't be dramatic! I'm sure you could squeak a badminton game out of them ... At night ... With no lights ... Or cameras ... Or witnesses.

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

If the Sun Belt cut them lose the split would be (East: AppSt, Coastal Carolina, GSU, GS, and Troy. West: USA, ULL, ULM, ArkSt, and Texas St.) You forgot Coastal.

(01-14-2016 08:29 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  They would be better off playing 4 division games then just three crossover games. Then schedule a FCS game (the years they only have three home conference games) then schedule more out of conference games for more money and more chances at upsets of P5 local teams. This extra nonconference game will help GA Sou play UGA every year on the road and a chance to make it a yearly rivalry maybe some years play the gamein Atl as a neutral site. Same goes for USA and Bama, Troy and Auburn, App and Tenn, CCU and USC! Ark St and Ark (might get agame in LR). UL and LSU, etc.

Never happen.

(01-14-2016 08:57 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 08:29 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

They would be better off playing 4 division games then just three crossover games. Then schedule a FCS game (the years they only have three home conference games) then schedule more out of conference games for more money and more chances at upsets of P5 local teams. This extra nonconference game will help GA Sou play UGA every year on the road and a chance to make it a yearly rivalry maybe some years play the gamein Atl as a neutral site. Same goes for USA and Bama, Troy and Auburn, App and Tenn, CCU and USC! Ark St and Ark (might get agame in LR). UL and LSU, etc.

The University of Arkansas does not, and will not ever...ever...ever....agree to play any other Arkansas school's team in ANY OFFICIAL SPORT WHATSOEVER.

Don't worry they won't play Toledo ever again either. LOL

(01-14-2016 09:05 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

If the Sun Belt cut them lose the split would be (East: AppSt, Coastal Carolina, GSU, GS, and Troy. West: USA, ULL, ULM, ArkSt, and Texas St.) You forgot Coastal.

Whoops you are correct. Thank you

(01-14-2016 09:02 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 08:57 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 08:29 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

They would be better off playing 4 division games then just three crossover games. Then schedule a FCS game (the years they only have three home conference games) then schedule more out of conference games for more money and more chances at upsets of P5 local teams. This extra nonconference game will help GA Sou play UGA every year on the road and a chance to make it a yearly rivalry maybe some years play the gamein Atl as a neutral site. Same goes for USA and Bama, Troy and Auburn, App and Tenn, CCU and USC! Ark St and Ark (might get agame in LR). UL and LSU, etc.

The University of Arkansas does not, and will not ever...ever...ever....agree to play any other Arkansas school's team in ANY OFFICIAL SPORT WHATSOEVER.

Oh don't be dramatic! I'm sure you could squeak a badminton game out of them ... At night ... With no lights ... Or cameras ... Or witnesses.

They agreed to stupidly play our Rugby team (#3 Nationally) in Jonesboro a couple years ago. Drew a really large crowd by rugby standards, and we won 100-0

The next year they mysteriously had a scheduling conflict and could not attend the scheduled game.

(01-14-2016 08:29 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

They would be better off playing 4 division games then just three crossover games. Then schedule a FCS game (the years they only have three home conference games) then schedule more out of conference games for more money and more chances at upsets of P5 local teams. This extra nonconference game will help GA Sou play UGA every year on the road and a chance to make it a yearly rivalry maybe some years play the gamein Atl as a neutral site. Same goes for USA and Bama, Troy and Auburn, App and Tenn, CCU and USC! Ark St and Ark (might get agame in LR). UL and LSU, etc.

The SBC is attempting to get every member school to agree to no more than 1 money game per season, and no guarantees against any G5 teams. There is no way anyone would ever go for more OOC games.

The top of the league is trying to drop FCS teams as it is and go to a strict one Money game/3 G5 home and home schedule, with maybe a P5 home and home mixed in.

You'll never see us extend, or take away from our OOC contests.

(01-14-2016 09:02 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 08:57 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 08:29 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

They would be better off playing 4 division games then just three crossover games. Then schedule a FCS game (the years they only have three home conference games) then schedule more out of conference games for more money and more chances at upsets of P5 local teams. This extra nonconference game will help GA Sou play UGA every year on the road and a chance to make it a yearly rivalry maybe some years play the gamein Atl as a neutral site. Same goes for USA and Bama, Troy and Auburn, App and Tenn, CCU and USC! Ark St and Ark (might get agame in LR). UL and LSU, etc.

The University of Arkansas does not, and will not ever...ever...ever....agree to play any other Arkansas school's team in ANY OFFICIAL SPORT WHATSOEVER.

Oh don't be dramatic! I'm sure you could squeak a badminton game out of them ... At night ... With no lights ... Or cameras ... Or witnesses.

Not being dramatic. It is the official policy of the university. It is sacrosanct. It is a fundamental part of their religion. The only sport we have played in is an unofficial one...Rugby. And I don't think that their athletic department likes it much.

It applies to all state schools and all sports.

(01-14-2016 09:05 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

If the Sun Belt cut them lose the split would be (East: AppSt, Coastal Carolina, GSU, GS, and Troy. West: USA, ULL, ULM, ArkSt, and Texas St.) You forgot Coastal.

They should boot Texas State as well. They need another school in between. They are also an on an island by themselves. Lamar could help that out. Than, they can add Eastern Kentucky on the eastside.

What is your fascination with a school 1.5 hours from an airport?

(01-14-2016 02:36 PM)orangefan Wrote:  Seems to me, the SBC is now free to dump New Mexico St. and Idaho. Will they do that?

It may be that there was a school or two that was in favor of a CCG that may have been in favor of NMSU and Idaho staying as a result, and who therefore are free to flip. So it may be that the odds of the SBC dumping NMSU and Idaho has taken a tick up.

But OTOH, given that they were not committed to a CCG before, they were already free to dump New Mexico State and Idaho if they wished to. So it may not make a difference.

(01-14-2016 09:53 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 09:02 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 08:57 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 08:29 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

They would be better off playing 4 division games then just three crossover games. Then schedule a FCS game (the years they only have three home conference games) then schedule more out of conference games for more money and more chances at upsets of P5 local teams. This extra nonconference game will help GA Sou play UGA every year on the road and a chance to make it a yearly rivalry maybe some years play the gamein Atl as a neutral site. Same goes for USA and Bama, Troy and Auburn, App and Tenn, CCU and USC! Ark St and Ark (might get agame in LR). UL and LSU, etc.

The University of Arkansas does not, and will not ever...ever...ever....agree to play any other Arkansas school's team in ANY OFFICIAL SPORT WHATSOEVER.

Oh don't be dramatic! I'm sure you could squeak a badminton game out of them ... At night ... With no lights ... Or cameras ... Or witnesses.

Not being dramatic. It is the official policy of the university. It is sacrosanct. It is a fundamental part of their religion. The only sport we have played in is an unofficial one...Rugby. And I don't think that their athletic department likes it much.

It applies to all state schools and all sports.

I honestly don't know for sure one way or the other, but I believed what you said. It sounds like something all too many big state P5 schools would do.

I was attempting to be humorously sarcastic.

(01-14-2016 10:48 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 09:05 PM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

If the Sun Belt cut them lose the split would be (East: AppSt, Coastal Carolina, GSU, GS, and Troy. West: USA, ULL, ULM, ArkSt, and Texas St.) You forgot Coastal.

They should boot Texas State as well. They need another school in between. They are also an on an island by themselves. Lamar could help that out. Than, they can add Eastern Kentucky on the eastside.

Is Lamar sending you hookers?

(01-14-2016 08:57 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 08:29 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 03:18 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I would think they would cut them lose, split into 2 team divisions (East: App, 2 GA's, and 2 AL's...West: 3 LA's, AR, TX) and keep their 8 game schedule. Seems like they are getting everything they want and can wait for the best FCS options to come along with no sense of urgency.

They would be better off playing 4 division games then just three crossover games. Then schedule a FCS game (the years they only have three home conference games) then schedule more out of conference games for more money and more chances at upsets of P5 local teams. This extra nonconference game will help GA Sou play UGA every year on the road and a chance to make it a yearly rivalry maybe some years play the gamein Atl as a neutral site. Same goes for USA and Bama, Troy and Auburn, App and Tenn, CCU and USC! Ark St and Ark (might get agame in LR). UL and LSU, etc.

The University of Arkansas does not, and will not ever...ever...ever....agree to play any other Arkansas school's team in ANY OFFICIAL SPORT WHATSOEVER.

That might be a problem if you and the Hogs are ever paired up in an NCAA Tournament game