(01-15-2016 11:16 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote: (01-14-2016 08:50 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: (01-14-2016 03:20 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote: What would FSU prefer in a P4 situation?
1) An ACC with ND all in with Texas & possibly a couple of buddies & a network.
2) Join the Big 12 with 5 ACC friends & a network.
3) Create a new conference with Clemson, ND, Texas, Oklahoma & the best of the rest of those 2 conferences & a network.
Obviously the SEC would be the top choice but I think that only happens in a P3 model. Why? With the top brands going to the SEC, B1G & PAC then the best of the rest conference wouldn't be strong enough to be another power conference.
The only way to a P4 without enormous fallout is megaconferences, which is really just a four division P1. You screw the Big 12 or ACC, and there will be political and legal fallout.
I see no easy way to shift either the Big 12 nucleus of Texas, OU, OKST, TTU, Baylor OR the ACC nucleus of Duke, UNC, NCST, GT, UVA.
It could be done without any fallout. If something happens soon then the B12 will likely be absorbed into the P4. Another way would be by a new conference, most likely after the GOR's but possibly before. With the troubles in the B12 & in the ACC I can FSU, Texas & Oklahoma talking & deciding that a new conference would be in their best interest. Clemson, GT & ND are approached & the idea gains some steam & ESPN backing. NC, Duke & Virginia sees the writing on the wall & begins to look at the offers from the SEC & B1G more seriously. The end result could be;
SEC gets NC St & VT.
BIG gets NC, Duke & Virginia with Nebraska joining Oklahoma & Texas in the new conference.
New conference could be;
South FSU, Clemson, GT, Miami
North ND, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, BC
West Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, TT/TCU/Baylor
Central Nebraska, Louisville, WV, Kansas
-Or-
SEC gets NC, Duke & Virginia & Missouri joins the new conference.
B1G gets Kansas & VT.
The new conference could be:
South FSU, Clemson, GT, Miami
North ND, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, BC
West Texas, Oklahoma, Okl State, TT/TCU/Baylor
Central Missouri, Louisville, WV, NC State
This would leave out 2 of TCU/TT/Baylor, Kansas St, Iowa St & WF. The PAC could choose to take 4 to make 4 16 team conferences. ESPN is happy because they get current Fox brands & stop the B1G & Fox eastern expansion while creating another SEC like conference to double their profits. In an 18 team conference model then some G5 would move up.
On a different board we had a discussion about the rumors/speculation of UCONN acting as a broker for legal reasons & a P4 spot. With a P4 & a champs only CFP, forcing ND all in, with UCONN in the ACC with Texas & the LHN, I came up with this.
ACC: adds ND all in, Texas, Baylor, UCONN, Cincinnati & WV for 18.
SEC: adds VT & NC St for 16.
B1G: adds Oklahoma & Oklahoma St to preserve the rivalry & reconnect with Nebraska.
PAC: adds another 6 team division for 18. Kansas, K State, TT, TCU, Houston & Iowa State.
So the ACC & PAC have 18 while the SEC & B1G have 16.
ACC
Central: Texas, Baylor, Louisville, Cincinnati, Miami, WF
South: FSU, Clemson, GT, NC, Duke, Virginia
North: ND, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, UCONN, WV
SEC
Florida, Georgia, VT, NC State
Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Miss State
Tennessee, S Carolina, Vandy, UK
A&M, LSU, Arkansas, Missouri
B1G
Oklahoma, Okl State, Nebraska, Iowa
Ohio State, Michigan, Mich St, Purdue
Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Nwestern
Penn St, Maryland, Rutgers, Indiana
Giving UCONN a spot adds 3 to the power conferences but gives the PAC a decent eastern division with a sizable Texas market. The ACC promotes 2 G5, loses 2 but gains 2 top brands & a network. The B1G gets Oklahoma but gets a tag along while the SEC expands their market.
Another possibility would be that the could ACC get ND all in, UCONN & trades VT for WV (if necessary) for 16.
PAC gets Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Iowa State & TT.
The SEC can have the combo of Texas/Kansas St or Kansas/VT(WV) The B1G would get the other. Baylor & TCU are left out. This gives us a P4 x 16. Or if necessary then those 2 would go to the ACC.