(01-15-2016 01:47 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote: You are reaching with that assumption. In terms of this vote, my scenario is highly more likely for the CONFERENCE'S vote. There is virtually no way the AAC voted no because it wanted the Big 12 to expand. That type of assertion has agenda written all over it.
You seem to think the CONFERENCE is an entity independent of the schools. It isn't.
My position is very consistent with the obvious notion that the vote reflected the will of the majority of schools, a will to join the P5.
I guess if we suspend disbelief, and assume that the administration at multiple schools have no concept of risk assessment and voted on a wing and a prayer, that may make sense.
And, that may go in line with your extremely addle-minded conclusion.
However, that would require a level of collusion that would foster more mistrust among leadership than trust; and, as such, any rational person can see that your scenario is simply retarded.
As usual, Homer chimes in with idiocy.
What collusion would be needed? None. Each school wants P5 expansion, so instructs whoever is representing it on the AAC conference call or meeting on how to vote to say they want the conference to vote against the Big 12 proposal. It's an issue where the divergence of interests between Aresco and the member schools is apparent. Aresco wants to keep everyone down on the AAC farm, every school wants out. Aresco doesn't like the "no" vote, but he's not calling this shot.
The risk is easy enough to assess: Each school, or a majority at least, has aspirations of being in a better place than the Aresco League, namely a Power conference. So it is willing to risk seeing the AAC somewhat weakened for the chance to be one of the teams added by the Big 12 and thus see its situation dramatically strengthened. A Houston or USF or Temple thinks to itself "Yes, if the proposal passes, maybe two schools other than ours are selected by the Big 12, and then we are stuck in an Aresco League without current members X and Y and have to backfill with C-USA members A & B, but that risk is worth it for the chance that we might be one of the schools getting the magical phone call". So vote "No".
The P5-aspirations theory perfectly explains the AAC "No" vote. No explanation you or anyone else has offered comes even remotely close to doing so.
That's not how things are run. Lol. Good on you for calling it a bull**** "theory"..
You spout nonsense and as usual cannot back it up.
Obviously, we voted No because most of us want P5 expansion.
(01-14-2016 10:35 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote: A couple of observations that have not been mentioned.
1) It is entirely conceivable that the AAC voted no for the same reason the ACC voted no...because it wanted the option of playing its top 2 teams against each other in its champ game, and not just its two division winners. Why? Because of the Access Bowl slot. If USF had won the division, it would have played in Houston (not Temple) and if it won, the league would have lost a lot of money. Making sure your two best teams play each other would help in terms of the Access Bowl, and if one team was unbeaten, maybe even a playoff berth.
It is likely that expansion (while the elephant in the room) was never even considered in the AAC vote.
Expansion, meaning the opportunity to join a P5 league, is obviously of massive concern to most if not all AAC schools, so it is hard to believe that this didn't factor massively into the way schools cast their votes within the AAC conference on how the AAC should vote in the NCAA meeting.
As for wanting what the ACC wanted, there simply is no indication that the AAC ever has wanted that option, and there's no reason we would have kept quiet about it if we did.
So the overwhelming odds are that the "no" vote reflected the desire of a majority of AAC schools to force the Big 12 to expand, so as to advance each school's chances of being promoted to P5.
totally agree Quo
Most all (if not all) of the AAC is made up of teams that don't want to be here and want a seat at the big boy table. And who can blame any of us for that. This conference totally sucks. TV knows we are hodge podged together and none of us want to be here. It makes me chuckle when some on here think we will get better tv money the next time around. We won't. The conference is made up of teams that don't want to be here, would bolt in a heartbeat and besides, no other network is worthy being on. ESPN knows this. They are going to offer the bare minimum (as they should) and the AAC will take it. Aresco will tute his horn, claim the AAC is a power player (hahaha) but in the end its all a show. The man has to at least 'look' like he's trying hard for us all. hahaha These poor dopes who think we are a tweener or a P6 are delusional and sad....and kind of hilarious all at the same time.
our tv money
our bowl line up
our bowl RECORD
our basketball as a whole
all a joke.
we are G5 in every sense of the term and we will get paid accordingly in the future about the same as we get right now...peanuts.
(01-16-2016 10:01 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: ^^^lol beating UC in football or hoops these days is not great accomplishment...and doesn't change the reality of what I said about the AAC.
lol. It has a lot to do with the reality of what you said...
(01-16-2016 05:58 PM)quo vadis Wrote: You spout nonsense and as usual cannot back it up.
Obviously, we voted No because most of us want P5 expansion.
You are a clown with your theories..
I used the term "theory" to describe my explanation for our No vote - that we voted No because the bulk of our schools want out of the ACC and into the P5- in the same sense scientists use terms like "theory of evolution" or "theory of relativity" or "heliocentric theory". That is, theories that have such overwhelming evidence to support them that nobody with a brain seriously doubts their basic truthfulness.
On the other hand, your denial of my explanation is just Wishful Aresco Fanboy Blather. As usual.
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