(01-14-2016 07:36 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 06:45 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:49 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  MT fans have complained about Stockstill for a couple of years but I don't think offense was their problem. Potentially good hire for Arkansas Sate.

Muts are saying "good riddance" across the street. Interesting.

It's been hard on them. Give them some alone time.

I've only seen one that was saying its a loss. (Then again, there's only about 20 posters on their boards.)
Well yeah, this late in the game it's a loss whether he was good or not.

They seem to blame Faulkner for every loss and play that didn't go for 7+ yards from the past decade (even though he's only been there for 5 years.). It has nothing to do with the players, Defensive coordinator, or heaven forbid the head coach. Apparently, everything falls on Buster's shoulders.

(01-14-2016 10:07 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 07:36 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 06:45 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:49 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  MT fans have complained about Stockstill for a couple of years but I don't think offense was their problem. Potentially good hire for Arkansas Sate.

Muts are saying "good riddance" across the street. Interesting.

It's been hard on them. Give them some alone time.

I've only seen one that was saying its a loss. (Then again, there's only about 20 posters on their boards.)
Well yeah, this late in the game it's a loss whether he was good or not.

They seem to blame Faulkner for every loss and play that didn't go for 7+ yards from the past decade (even though he's only been there for 5 years.). It has nothing to do with the players, Defensive coordinator, or heaven forbid the head coach. Apparently, everything falls on Buster's shoulders.

The idea that they seem very happy with a DC making 300K per year that gave up 30 points per game, including 34 to FIU has been really interesting. That's about what we gave up last year, but we're not paying Cauthen but half of that.

(01-14-2016 06:45 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:49 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  MT fans have complained about Stockstill for a couple of years but I don't think offense was their problem. Potentially good hire for Arkansas Sate.

Muts are saying "good riddance" across the street. Interesting.

They said the same thing last year when we poached their receivers coach/recruiting coordinator. It's a pattern of absurdity.

(01-15-2016 12:17 AM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 06:45 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:49 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  MT fans have complained about Stockstill for a couple of years but I don't think offense was their problem. Potentially good hire for Arkansas Sate.

Muts are saying "good riddance" across the street. Interesting.

They said the same thing last year when we poached their receivers coach/recruiting coordinator. It's a pattern of absurdity.

We hired Tony Franklin as a replacement for Faulkner so all in all I think most of us are pretty happy with the swap.

Hope it works out better for y'all than it worked out for us the last time we hired an OC out of MTSU.

But our guy had been let go and I think only averaged about 15 points per game up there. Ole' Brian VAngooberNuts was an offensive mastermind I'm telling ya!

(01-23-2016 01:42 AM)RowdyAlumni Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 12:17 AM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 06:45 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:49 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  MT fans have complained about Stockstill for a couple of years but I don't think offense was their problem. Potentially good hire for Arkansas Sate.

Muts are saying "good riddance" across the street. Interesting.

They said the same thing last year when we poached their receivers coach/recruiting coordinator. It's a pattern of absurdity.

We hired Tony Franklin as a replacement for Faulkner so all in all I think most of us are pretty happy with the swap.

Risky, but could be big rewards for you guys if it works. Book on Franklin is that he can put up video game like numbers in weaker G5 conferences. He's been coaching in College for 9 seasons now, and has one conference title to show for it, in a severely weakened WAC. I remember his Tech teams could figure out ways to score 50 and give up 51. Cal had similar problems the last few years.

Risky, but he's a big name, and MTSU does have a good QB.

(01-23-2016 03:04 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 01:42 AM)RowdyAlumni Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 12:17 AM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 06:45 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:49 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  MT fans have complained about Stockstill for a couple of years but I don't think offense was their problem. Potentially good hire for Arkansas Sate.

Muts are saying "good riddance" across the street. Interesting.

They said the same thing last year when we poached their receivers coach/recruiting coordinator. It's a pattern of absurdity.

We hired Tony Franklin as a replacement for Faulkner so all in all I think most of us are pretty happy with the swap.

Risky, but could be big rewards for you guys if it works. Book on Franklin is that he can put up video game like numbers in weaker G5 conferences. He's been coaching in College for 9 seasons now, and has one conference title to show for it, in a severely weakened WAC. I remember his Tech teams could figure out ways to score 50 and give up 51. Cal had similar problems the last few years.

Risky, but he's a big name, and MTSU does have a good QB.

stAte fans - Buster is a good OC. He can be maddening in the red zone (very little middle ground, either genius playcalling or brain farts all around) but you will move the ball.

App fan - And we still stick to our story about Watts. He was our receivers coach/recruiting coordinator. In the year that he's been gone, every single season receiving record has been broken and our recruiting is exponentially better. He is clown shoes.

I believe Watts left late in the 2015 recruiting period (aka most recruits had verbally committed).

MTSU average recruit rankings per 247:

2013: .7818
2014: .7808
2015: .7885
2016: .7779

Exponentially better.

(01-23-2016 10:35 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I believe Watts left late in the 2015 recruiting period (aka most recruits had verbally committed).

MTSU average recruit rankings per 247:

2013: .7818
2014: .7808
2015: .7885
2016: .7779

Exponentially better.

We're getting better recruits to fit our system. Getting them earlier. Keeping them.

Your top two receivers also saw their production go down.

Meanwhile, the year since Watts was gone, we had a freshman All-American (1,300 yds) and a receiver that had 3 TDs the year before go for 1,000 yards and 13 TDs.

9 years with Watts - 0 1,000 yard receivers, 0 100 catch seasons, 0 10 TD cat seasons.

1 year w/out Watts - 2 1,000 yard receivers, 1 100 catch receiver, 1 10 TD receiver.

Watts is clown shoes.

(01-23-2016 11:24 AM)theboro Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 10:35 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I believe Watts left late in the 2015 recruiting period (aka most recruits had verbally committed).

MTSU average recruit rankings per 247:

2013: .7818
2014: .7808
2015: .7885
2016: .7779

Exponentially better.

We're getting better recruits to fit our system. Getting them earlier. Keeping them.

Your top two receivers also saw their production go down.

Meanwhile, the year since Watts was gone, we had a freshman All-American (1,300 yds) and a receiver that had 3 TDs the year before go for 1,000 yards and 13 TDs.

9 years with Watts - 0 1,000 yard receivers, 0 100 catch seasons, 0 10 TD cat seasons.

1 year w/out Watts - 2 1,000 yard receivers, 1 100 catch receiver, 1 10 TD receiver.

Watts is clown shoes.

I don't know who Watts is, nor do I care. You may be right, but your cherry picked stats mean didley squat without the whole picture. Watts could have had 4-5 guys every year with 75 catches and 8 TD's a piece. Then last year no one could have had over 100 yards besides your two 1000 yd guys. Maybe there was a shift from a run oriented offense to pass oriented. I don't care enough to check, but next time you bring game you better come stronger with stats.

To be honest, I'm not sure how someone did somewhere else is a real strong indicator all the time.

We love John Thompson, he did a good job for us. His defenses were part of more than one championship and as an interim he guided us to underdog bowl wins. He recruited some good players for us. We've got no complaints. But ECU fans hate him and he struggled at TXST.

We didn't like Doug Ruse and were ready to see him gone. But he seemed to do okay at Georgia Southern.

A lot of it has to do with how offenses and defenses mesh and how coaches and coaches and coaches and players mesh.

WR had fewer yards due to a better run game.

So worse rated players fit your system better, got it.

(01-23-2016 03:04 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 01:42 AM)RowdyAlumni Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 12:17 AM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 06:45 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:49 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  MT fans have complained about Stockstill for a couple of years but I don't think offense was their problem. Potentially good hire for Arkansas Sate.

Muts are saying "good riddance" across the street. Interesting.

They said the same thing last year when we poached their receivers coach/recruiting coordinator. It's a pattern of absurdity.

We hired Tony Franklin as a replacement for Faulkner so all in all I think most of us are pretty happy with the swap.

Risky, but could be big rewards for you guys if it works. Book on Franklin is that he can put up video game like numbers in weaker G5 conferences. He's been coaching in College for 9 seasons now, and has one conference title to show for it, in a severely weakened WAC. I remember his Tech teams could figure out ways to score 50 and give up 51. Cal had similar problems the last few years.

Risky, but he's a big name, and MTSU does have a good QB.

Did he not ever have a conference championship with Troy?

I think the general consensus of both Watts and Buster among our fans is that we upgraded. I can't find a single fan that is mourning the loss of either. At our level our coaches should be getting snatched up by bigger programs. If an assistant hasn't moved up in five years they are either old or not very good. Watts was here forever and stalling out. He would have been let go had you not hired him. It took his replacement one season to move up. Buster was here 5 years with modest results. It was time to go for both of parties. I am not sure if he was pushed to make room for Franklin or jumped and we got lucky that Franklin wanted to come back home. Regardless it's hard to argue we didn't end up in a better spot. I think the Franklin hire proves we could have matched the pay if we had the desire.

(01-25-2016 03:04 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  I think the general consensus of both Watts and Buster among our fans is that we upgraded. I can't find a single fan that is mourning the loss of either. At our level our coaches should be getting snatched up by bigger programs. If an assistant hasn't moved up in five years they are either old or not very good. Watts was here forever and stalling out. He would have been let go had you not hired him. It took his replacement one season to move up. Buster was here 5 years with modest results. It was time to go for both of parties. I am not sure if he was pushed to make room for Franklin or jumped and we got lucky that Franklin wanted to come back home. Regardless it's hard to argue we didn't end up in a better spot. I think the Franklin hire proves we could have matched the pay if we had the desire.

Buster absolutely was not pushed. He was #1 on our list from the beginning and Blake sold him on the move. We paid Buster more but I don't think it was really about money. It is more likely that Franklin was pushed out of Cal or knew that the end was not far off in the future and looking for a soft landing. Either way, we got the guy we wanted and MTSU ended up okay.

(01-25-2016 03:04 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  I think the general consensus of both Watts and Buster among our fans is that we upgraded. I can't find a single fan that is mourning the loss of either. At our level our coaches should be getting snatched up by bigger programs. If an assistant hasn't moved up in five years they are either old or not very good. Watts was here forever and stalling out. He would have been let go had you not hired him. It took his replacement one season to move up. Buster was here 5 years with modest results. It was time to go for both of parties. I am not sure if he was pushed to make room for Franklin or jumped and we got lucky that Franklin wanted to come back home. Regardless it's hard to argue we didn't end up in a better spot. I think the Franklin hire proves we could have matched the pay if we had the desire.

You guys made a bad position coach your recruiting coordinator.

Worse rated recruits are a better fit for your system and now you tell me average to bad position coaches get additional responsibilities, this is a pretty cool story.

Yep you are right. You two stole some our best ever. I can't believe Watts hasn't left for Bama yet.

(01-25-2016 03:04 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  I think the general consensus of both Watts and Buster among our fans is that we upgraded. I can't find a single fan that is mourning the loss of either. At our level our coaches should be getting snatched up by bigger programs. If an assistant hasn't moved up in five years they are either old or not very good. Watts was here forever and stalling out. He would have been let go had you not hired him. It took his replacement one season to move up. Buster was here 5 years with modest results. It was time to go for both of parties. I am not sure if he was pushed to make room for Franklin or jumped and we got lucky that Franklin wanted to come back home. Regardless it's hard to argue we didn't end up in a better spot. I think the Franklin hire proves we could have matched the pay if we had the desire.

I don't know if Faulker was pushed or not, but he did interview for 2 P5 jobs before he got ours.

(01-25-2016 07:37 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  Yep you are right. You two stole some our best ever. I can't believe Watts hasn't left for Bama yet.

reality is somewhere in between, a reality you are having trouble with.