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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-13-2016 04:10 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (01-13-2016 02:34 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: (01-13-2016 02:14 PM)Crump1 Wrote: Coaches leave for better gigs all the time.
The gig he's being offered is better, more money(with lower cost of living) and more responsibility.
We're happy seeing him go, you're happy believing you could take a coach from us. If we were happy with Buster and felt he was worth what you guys do, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Congratulations on your new hire.
Pretty easy to believe we "took a coach from you" because it just happened. Now obviously part of that is because MTSU values an DC giving up 26.6 per game nearly 50% more than an OC racking up 34 points per game.
Ego BS aside, you don't see many people switching jobs for less or equal pay, the willingness to pay more than the current employer is how "taking a coach" happens.
You "took" our coach because you put a higher value on him than we did. Let me cut you a $20,000 check for your 2011 Honda Civic and brag about taking your car from you.
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-13-2016 02:34 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: (01-13-2016 02:14 PM)Crump1 Wrote: Coaches leave for better gigs all the time.
The gig he's being offered is better, more money(with lower cost of living) and more responsibility.
We're happy seeing him go, you're happy believing you could take a coach from us. If we were happy with Buster and felt he was worth what you guys do, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Congratulations on your new hire.
Ahh I see. And if we really cared about losing Gus Malzahn to Auburn, we would have made sure he didn't go anywhere.
See, it works both ways.
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-13-2016 10:37 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote: Does Theboro know something about our departing OC that we don't know?
I think he might be referring to Anderson... who is also a former MT assistant...
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MTPiKapp
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-14-2016 02:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (01-13-2016 02:34 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: (01-13-2016 02:14 PM)Crump1 Wrote: Coaches leave for better gigs all the time.
The gig he's being offered is better, more money(with lower cost of living) and more responsibility.
We're happy seeing him go, you're happy believing you could take a coach from us. If we were happy with Buster and felt he was worth what you guys do, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Congratulations on your new hire.
Ahh I see. And if we really cared about losing Gus Malzahn to Auburn, we would have made sure he didn't go anywhere.
See, it works both ways.
So you had the $2.3M a year to at least match what Auburn offered?
C'mon, you're much smarter than this.
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-14-2016 02:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (01-13-2016 02:34 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: (01-13-2016 02:14 PM)Crump1 Wrote: Coaches leave for better gigs all the time.
The gig he's being offered is better, more money(with lower cost of living) and more responsibility.
We're happy seeing him go, you're happy believing you could take a coach from us. If we were happy with Buster and felt he was worth what you guys do, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Congratulations on your new hire.
Ahh I see. And if we really cared about losing Gus Malzahn to Auburn, we would have made sure he didn't go anywhere.
See, it works both ways.
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-14-2016 04:07 AM)SpaceRaider Wrote: (01-13-2016 10:37 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote: Does Theboro know something about our departing OC that we don't know?
I think he might be referring to Anderson... who is also a former MT assistant...
Yep. I believe that was the reason why he was uhm... cough ... asked to find another job.
So, the original question posed by blueboro was - should we say - rhetorical.
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-14-2016 12:36 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (01-14-2016 04:07 AM)SpaceRaider Wrote: (01-13-2016 10:37 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote: Does Theboro know something about our departing OC that we don't know?
I think he might be referring to Anderson... who is also a former MT assistant...
Yep. I believe that was the reason why he was uhm... cough ... asked to find another job.
So, the original question posed by blueboro was - should we say - rhetorical.
Just dipping a toe in the gutter here...but your rhetorical question is one that can lead to someone re-prioritizing work/life balance and family time for others when they are finally in charge.
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-14-2016 05:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote: (01-14-2016 12:36 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (01-14-2016 04:07 AM)SpaceRaider Wrote: (01-13-2016 10:37 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote: Does Theboro know something about our departing OC that we don't know?
I think he might be referring to Anderson... who is also a former MT assistant...
Yep. I believe that was the reason why he was uhm... cough ... asked to find another job.
So, the original question posed by blueboro was - should we say - rhetorical.
Just dipping a toe in the gutter here...but your rhetorical question is one that can lead to someone re-prioritizing work/life balance and family time for others when they are finally in charge.
Exactly. So that Blake doesn't dip anything into any female trainers anymore.
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-14-2016 12:36 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (01-14-2016 04:07 AM)SpaceRaider Wrote: (01-13-2016 10:37 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote: Does Theboro know something about our departing OC that we don't know?
I think he might be referring to Anderson... who is also a former MT assistant...
Yep. I believe that was the reason why he was uhm... cough ... asked to find another job.
So, the original question posed by blueboro was - should we say - rhetorical.
You don't ask a OC that had those type of yards in a season to walk away.
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01-14-2016 07:14 PM |
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-14-2016 07:14 PM)RustonCAT Wrote: (01-14-2016 12:36 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (01-14-2016 04:07 AM)SpaceRaider Wrote: (01-13-2016 10:37 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote: Does Theboro know something about our departing OC that we don't know?
I think he might be referring to Anderson... who is also a former MT assistant...
Yep. I believe that was the reason why he was uhm... cough ... asked to find another job.
So, the original question posed by blueboro was - should we say - rhetorical.
You don't ask a OC that had those type of yards in a season to walk away.
Yards are irrelevant.
We were only 35th in scoring. Until the OC produces a top 25 scoring offense against the defenses we face then he's underperforming. Buster's MO is to produce big numbers against bad teams inflating his averages and then not getting it done against better teams. So, whether that's because Stockstill is mico managing the offense or its directly attributable to Buster can't be said for sure.
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-15-2016 08:52 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (01-14-2016 07:14 PM)RustonCAT Wrote: (01-14-2016 12:36 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (01-14-2016 04:07 AM)SpaceRaider Wrote: (01-13-2016 10:37 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote: Does Theboro know something about our departing OC that we don't know?
I think he might be referring to Anderson... who is also a former MT assistant...
Yep. I believe that was the reason why he was uhm... cough ... asked to find another job.
So, the original question posed by blueboro was - should we say - rhetorical.
You don't ask a OC that had those type of yards in a season to walk away.
Yards are irrelevant.
We were only 35th in scoring. Until the OC produces a top 25 scoring offense against the defenses we face then he's underperforming. Buster's MO is to produce big numbers against bad teams inflating his averages and then not getting it done against better teams. So, whether that's because Stockstill is mico managing the offense or its directly attributable to Buster can't be said for sure.
If you take out the games against Jackson State and Charlotte (sorry 9ers) we only averaged 27 points a games. That is far from inspiring. He rolled up the score on two overmatched defenses.
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
Bump.... Silly ASU fans
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01-22-2016 05:15 PM |
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
Well, I think it's clear that this is a win-win situation for us.
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01-22-2016 06:49 PM |
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
I want to thank the Arkansas State Athletic department for hiring Buster away!
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-13-2016 04:10 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (01-13-2016 02:34 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote: (01-13-2016 02:14 PM)Crump1 Wrote: Coaches leave for better gigs all the time.
The gig he's being offered is better, more money(with lower cost of living) and more responsibility.
We're happy seeing him go, you're happy believing you could take a coach from us. If we were happy with Buster and felt he was worth what you guys do, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Congratulations on your new hire.
Pretty easy to believe we "took a coach from you" because it just happened. Now obviously part of that is because MTSU values an DC giving up 26.6 per game nearly 50% more than an OC racking up 34 points per game.
Ego BS aside, you don't see many people switching jobs for less or equal pay, the willingness to pay more than the current employer is how "taking a coach" happens.
Is there any doubt in your mind that we let Faulkner walk now? This was always the plan, congrats again on "taking our coach".
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-22-2016 05:15 PM)surlycanon Wrote: Bump.... Silly ASU fans
Okay...
You hired a coach that we would never have hired as OC, but you guys really wanted...we hired a coach that you guys apparently didn't want as OC, but we really wanted
Nothing to prove here. You guys could have always fired Faulkner and gotten the same result. Maybe Franklin works out for you guys. I doubt he makes a major difference, but we'll see.
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-13-2016 12:01 PM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote: It's odd that Buster made a lateral move and left behind his All American WR, record breaking QB, and RB Mathers. Something tells me there is more to him leaving. I tend to think this was a mutual break up.
And this is it! I would bet my retirement that Franklin told Stockstill he wanted to come back and Stockstill told Faulkner he was going to be canned so he found another opportunity. I could be wrong but this lateral move by Faulkner with what he had returning to MT didn't make sense no matter what you ASU fans want to think. Faulkner was pushed outta here to make room for Franklin.
This is great news though! I'm very happy with the outcome!
(This post was last modified: 01-23-2016 06:44 AM by BlueRaider0x0.)
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
Who cares? It doesn't matter either way. I think this works out for both schools. Buster will be at home against the weak defenses in the Belt. And Brent Stockstill running Franklin's system is the football fan version of a wet dream.
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01-23-2016 08:21 AM |
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-23-2016 06:42 AM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote: (01-13-2016 12:01 PM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote: It's odd that Buster made a lateral move and left behind his All American WR, record breaking QB, and RB Mathers. Something tells me there is more to him leaving. I tend to think this was a mutual break up.
And this is it! I would bet my retirement that Franklin told Stockstill he wanted to come back and Stockstill told Faulkner he was going to be canned so he found another opportunity. I could be wrong but this lateral move by Faulkner with what he had returning to MT didn't make sense no matter what you ASU fans want to think. Faulkner was pushed outta here to make room for Franklin.
This is great news though! I'm very happy with the outcome!
That's a lot of effort for 1 coach who has 5 losing seasons in 9 years as an OC, with one league title to show for it.
We'll see if it works out for you guys.
(This post was last modified: 01-23-2016 11:40 AM by chiefsfan.)
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RE: Good News Regarding MT OC
(01-23-2016 03:09 AM)chiefsfan Wrote: (01-22-2016 05:15 PM)surlycanon Wrote: Bump.... Silly ASU fans
Okay...
You hired a coach that we would never have hired as OC, but you guys really wanted...we hired a coach that you guys apparently didn't want as OC, but we really wanted
Nothing to prove here. You guys could have always fired Faulkner and gotten the same result. Maybe Franklin works out for you guys. I doubt he makes a major difference, but we'll see.
You wouldn't have even been on his radar, so that is a moot point.
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