Wisconsin HS Athletic Association bans "Air Ball" chant because of hurt feelings
Two questions arise from this article. 1. Why is a student being suspended 5 games for something she tweeted? 2. When will this speech monitoring stop?
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(01-12-2016 08:54 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: Two questions arise from this article. 1. Why is a student being suspended 5 games for something she tweeted? 2. When will this speech monitoring stop?
They would so lose a lawsuit on this. But they probably know her Dad isn't a lawyer and it would be too expensive. Hope the ACLU sees this.
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2016 10:00 AM by bullet.)
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In a given year, I probably attend over 50 high school hockey games. It is common practice for the student section to chant to the opposing goaltender after their team scores (usually second period when the opposing team's goal is at their end), "It's all your fault. It's all your fault. It's all your fault."
A less odious taunt is at a player who has taken a penalty: "You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that."
In a related matter, it has become common for teams to highlight a word in the national anthem when it is sung.
For example, one team has the nickname "Black Knights." When the singer reaches "Gave proof through the night", at the point of "night" the players slap their sticks and yell "knights." Another team, the Red Raiders, accentuate the "red."
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(01-13-2016 11:26 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote: In a given year, I probably attend over 50 high school hockey games. It is common practice for the student section to chant to the opposing goaltender after their team scores (usually second period when the opposing team's goal is at their end), "It's all your fault. It's all your fault. It's all your fault."
A less odious taunt is at a player who has taken a penalty: "You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that."
In a related matter, it has become common for teams to highlight a word in the national anthem when it is sung.
For example, one team has the nickname "Black Knights." When the singer reaches "Gave proof through the night", at the point of "night" the players slap their sticks and yell "knights." Another team, the Red Raiders, accentuate the "red."
The day Hockey gets sissified is the day I give up sports.
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(01-12-2016 08:54 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: Two questions arise from this article. 1. Why is a student being suspended 5 games for something she tweeted? 2. When will this speech monitoring stop?
She used profanity in it, which violates the school language policy.
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(01-13-2016 10:00 AM)bullet Wrote:
(01-12-2016 08:54 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: Two questions arise from this article. 1. Why is a student being suspended 5 games for something she tweeted? 2. When will this speech monitoring stop?
They would so lose a lawsuit on this. But they probably know her Dad isn't a lawyer and it would be too expensive. Hope the ACLU sees this.
On what grounds?
The school has a policy, that she likely agreed to at some point, and she broke it.
RE: Wisconsin HS Athletic Association bans "Air Ball" chant because of hurt feelings
I believe in free speech and therefore I believe in heckling. I also believe they should allow athletes to go into the stands and whip hecklers' rear ends. Maybe something like in the third period have a 2-minute, 'athlete rebuttal time.' Might make some sports far more fun to watch.
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(01-13-2016 01:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(01-13-2016 01:40 PM)appst89 Wrote: The ACLU will be all over this. I'm sure they like easy wins.
Again, why?
What liberty was illegally taken away? You can safely assume that all high school students athletes sign a code of conduct each year.
She broke that agreement by using profanity so the school punished her.
It's akin to kids being suspended from sports teams for not making grades.
There is no injured party here.
Because the school, or athletic association cannot violate her rights to free speech unless they can prove some clear and present danger was caused by it.
Her actions were off of school property and not related to her sport, so even if there were an agreement, it wouldn't apply here.
It is not akin to that at all.
She was injured by being punished for exercising her First Amendment rights.
She will win easily if she chooses to sue. I did a quick Google search and found several similar cases where the courts have said that schools cannot punish for social media postings unless there is a clear threat posed by the speech.
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(01-13-2016 01:56 PM)appst89 Wrote:
(01-13-2016 01:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(01-13-2016 01:40 PM)appst89 Wrote: The ACLU will be all over this. I'm sure they like easy wins.
Again, why?
What liberty was illegally taken away? You can safely assume that all high school students athletes sign a code of conduct each year.
She broke that agreement by using profanity so the school punished her.
It's akin to kids being suspended from sports teams for not making grades.
There is no injured party here.
Because the school, or athletic association cannot violate her rights to free speech unless they can prove some clear and present danger was caused by it.
Her actions were off of school property and not related to her sport, so even if there were an agreement, it wouldn't apply here.
It is not akin to that at all.
She was injured by being punished for exercising her First Amendment rights.
She will win easily if she chooses to sue. I did a quick Google search and found several similar cases where the courts have said that schools cannot punish for social media postings unless there is a clear threat posed by the speech.
Perhaps...but her comments were directly related to her sport and to the state athletic association. I don't think that can be seen as outside of school activities as it directly relates to them.