(01-12-2016 01:46 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Degenerates

Pretty much sums it up. It's sad that the child is a victim of these side shows.

Granted it isn't a much worse situation than some chick getting knocked up by Neck-Tattoo McFlatbill knowing that he will flee the scene immediately after. Which happens all the time in the hetero community.

In both situations, the child is likely screwed from it's birth onward.

(01-12-2016 04:27 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Granted it isn't a much worse situation than some chick getting knocked up by Neck-Tattoo McFlatbill knowing that he will flee the scene immediately after. Which happens all the time in the hetero community.

In both situations, the child is likely screwed from it's birth onward.

hmmm, lets see:

Where's your dad?

Child 1: I dont know my dad. He left my mom before I was born.

Where's your dad?

Child 2: My dad was a turkey baster.

(01-12-2016 10:47 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 04:27 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Granted it isn't a much worse situation than some chick getting knocked up by Neck-Tattoo McFlatbill knowing that he will flee the scene immediately after. Which happens all the time in the hetero community.

In both situations, the child is likely screwed from it's birth onward.

hmmm, lets see:

Where's your dad?

Child 1: I dont know my dad. He left my mom before I was born.

Where's your dad?

Child 2: My dad was a master turkey baster.

FIFY

(01-12-2016 02:13 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 02:04 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 01:54 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 01:46 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Degenerates

I think you spelled lesbians wrong. Hey at least they don't worship the sun god.

Last I heard, Lesbians believe in gay rights. One of these women dont. One of them is a homophobe.

Just another spiteful ***** that's trying to use a child to hurt an ex

There is no fury like women scorned. Now how does that saying fall into this equation. Hoo eee, fireworks.

So, they were all equal and stuff BEFORE the kid was born, but not so much when seeking custody after a divorce. Freaking hypocrites.

(01-12-2016 02:51 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  I'm going to want to see what happens when she is awarded child support. Not that i have a problem with gay marriage or artificial insemination.... just that MANY of those who seek all of these 'rights' ignore the 'responsibilities' that go along with them.

And then the "other" mother will remind her that she has no Parental rights, so she won't have to pay child support?

I think it is interesting that the marital presumption wasn't applied. It seems like that would resolve the issue.

(01-13-2016 09:46 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 02:51 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  I'm going to want to see what happens when she is awarded child support. Not that i have a problem with gay marriage or artificial insemination.... just that MANY of those who seek all of these 'rights' ignore the 'responsibilities' that go along with them.

And then the "other" mother will remind her that she has no Parental rights, so she won't have to pay child support?

The person who will pay child support is the doofus who allowed his manhood to be planted in her via a turkey baster. If you are going to be a sperm donor without financial responsibilities, you have to file that with the state under proper procedures and guidelines. You cant simply sign an agreement between yourself and the woman to absolve your financial responsibilities.

(01-12-2016 01:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  According to a brief filed by Edge, Karen Poole believes Lauren Poole shouldn’t qualify for parental rights because she isn’t physically related to the child.

She was all for gay rights, up until the time it affected her negatively.

I'm around 90% sure that's her lawyer talking...

(01-13-2016 09:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The person who will pay child support is the doofus who allowed his manhood to be planted in her via a turkey baster. If you are going to be a sperm donor without financial responsibilities, you have to file that with the state under proper procedures and guidelines. You cant simply sign an agreement between yourself and the woman to absolve your financial responsibilities.

Dunno, U... According to many in the gay community, I've seen them say they can... they want nothing to do with the donor other than the sperm / egg for the child.

By that argument, if it was done through an anonymous sperm bank, wouldn't the same "agreement" fall in place? The person who gave his sperm to the sperm bank is now financially responsible for the child?

(01-13-2016 11:00 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 09:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The person who will pay child support is the doofus who allowed his manhood to be planted in her via a turkey baster. If you are going to be a sperm donor without financial responsibilities, you have to file that with the state under proper procedures and guidelines. You cant simply sign an agreement between yourself and the woman to absolve your financial responsibilities.

Dunno, U... According to many in the gay community, I've seen them say they can... they want nothing to do with the donor other than the sperm / egg for the child.

By that argument, if it was done through an anonymous sperm bank, wouldn't the same "agreement" fall in place? The person who gave his sperm to the sperm bank is now financially responsible for the child?

If you want to donate without being responsible, you have to use a state approved method such as a sperm bank.

If you dont, you are financially liable. No private party agreement will get you out of that.

In fact, the woman doesnt even have to go after child support. The moment she applies for any benefits whatsoever, the state or a division of CPS will step in and have the father assigned child support payments.

(01-13-2016 10:55 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 01:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  According to a brief filed by Edge, Karen Poole believes Lauren Poole shouldn’t qualify for parental rights because she isn’t physically related to the child.

She was all for gay rights, up until the time it affected her negatively.

I'm around 90% sure that's her lawyer talking...

And she had to approve of the strategy. It is always ultimately the client's choice. Some people will say no because of their beliefs on this kind of tactic and their lawyer will have to go back to the drawing board.

(01-13-2016 11:11 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:00 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 09:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The person who will pay child support is the doofus who allowed his manhood to be planted in her via a turkey baster. If you are going to be a sperm donor without financial responsibilities, you have to file that with the state under proper procedures and guidelines. You cant simply sign an agreement between yourself and the woman to absolve your financial responsibilities.

Dunno, U... According to many in the gay community, I've seen them say they can... they want nothing to do with the donor other than the sperm / egg for the child.

By that argument, if it was done through an anonymous sperm bank, wouldn't the same "agreement" fall in place? The person who gave his sperm to the sperm bank is now financially responsible for the child?

If you want to donate without being responsible, you have to use a state approved method such as a sperm bank.

If you dont, you are financially liable. No private party agreement will get you out of that.

In fact, the woman doesnt even have to go after child support. The moment she applies for any benefits whatsoever, the state or a division of CPS will step in and have the father assigned child support payments.

This will all depend on which state you live in. In some states, even if you've gone to court to dispose of your rights, under certain circumstances, the Court can still find you financially responsible. IN other states, the simple contract is fine. And there is a lot in between...usually dealing with a licensed sperm bank and state approved forms.

(01-13-2016 11:00 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 09:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The person who will pay child support is the doofus who allowed his manhood to be planted in her via a turkey baster. If you are going to be a sperm donor without financial responsibilities, you have to file that with the state under proper procedures and guidelines. You cant simply sign an agreement between yourself and the woman to absolve your financial responsibilities.

Dunno, U... According to many in the gay community, I've seen them say they can... they want nothing to do with the donor other than the sperm / egg for the child.

By that argument, if it was done through an anonymous sperm bank, wouldn't the same "agreement" fall in place? The person who gave his sperm to the sperm bank is now financially responsible for the child?

I hope that he gets hammered. He helped enable this perversion.

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(01-13-2016 11:11 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 11:00 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 09:52 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The person who will pay child support is the doofus who allowed his manhood to be planted in her via a turkey baster. If you are going to be a sperm donor without financial responsibilities, you have to file that with the state under proper procedures and guidelines. You cant simply sign an agreement between yourself and the woman to absolve your financial responsibilities.

Dunno, U... According to many in the gay community, I've seen them say they can... they want nothing to do with the donor other than the sperm / egg for the child.

By that argument, if it was done through an anonymous sperm bank, wouldn't the same "agreement" fall in place? The person who gave his sperm to the sperm bank is now financially responsible for the child?

If you want to donate without being responsible, you have to use a state approved method such as a sperm bank.

If you dont, you are financially liable. No private party agreement will get you out of that.

In fact, the woman doesnt even have to go after child support. The moment she applies for any benefits whatsoever, the state or a division of CPS will step in and have the father assigned child support payments.

Pretty amazing (and backward) that the marriage itself is unenforceable, but anything related to the breakup and destruction of the marriage is.

Also, how surprising that if there is a man involved somewhere, no matter how weak the link, he's the one on the hook financially.

What would the result be if it was two gay men instead of women getting the divorce, and they had used a third-party sperm donor to impregnate a "host" surrogate mom?

The farther you go away form normal, the more ridiculous the resulting disorder that is introduced. In the end, the children, if any, and society pay the price for these people's selfishness.

Will withhold my opinion on most of the comments. But agree with the court's decision.

If you understand the concept of "love for a child" , she will have no problem with child support if that is an issue.

Many hetero couples use fertility doctors to have a kid including other eggs or sperm along with surrogate mothers (common with 2 gay guys).

Not sure how the law deals with that. I do have an issue on the birth certificate. They may need to be modified for biological parent and legal parent.