Looks like our Bearcats have fallen down this list from prior years. Currently, we clock in at #75 with a value of ~$34M. Most disappointing is not only are we way behind UCF ($94M), USF ($92M), UConn ($88M) and Boise State ($73M), but we are also behind San Jose State, Central Michigan, Wyoming and Army.

https://t.co/nGOgE3l45a

This is the most meaningless thing I've seen in a while.

Every year they come up with this list and every year its more useless than before.

College football programs are not sold on the open market. They are marketing arms of a college or university with the main purpose to drive enrollment, generate revenue, and sell licensed goods.

The best way to measure football's worth is to look at athletic department revenue, endowment, enrollment, licensing fees, apparel contracts, attendance, and media coverage and try to find some relationship between football and those categories.

I know if UC shut down the football program there would probably be a significant loss in categories mentioned above.

UC has probably not released any 2015 revenue/expense #'s, and with the Nip renovation our position would
probably look better.

I agree with the responses above. It's only disappointing if it actually means something. I don't even know what it would mean if Ohio St. football was sold at that "value" to say Alaska St. U, but if it did happen, I don't think they'd be worth as much to Ohio St. alumni and current "fans" (which drive the valuations) anymore. It's a nice class project for a finance class, but absolutely meaningless in the real world.

Companies (which is how Forbes is trying to look at college football programs) are valued based on their revenue, their profit, and their ability to turn profit into actual cash.

2014, which is the data Forbes used for this study, was an abysmal revenue year for us as a result of moving to PBS and losing out on all the revenue we get from not only playing at Nippert, but especially the impact of the new club seating.

I would anticipate a pretty significant jump in this strange metric and more importantly, in our AD revenue figure once released for the 2015-2016 school year.

No idea what they are really worth, but as I stated in a thread several months ago: at one of the Alabama games I attended this past year (UT) they honored the newest members of the Bryant Foundation on the field. I believe I counted 26 names on the list they put up on the scoreboard. These were the 26 newest members of the annual over $1,000,000 donor club.

If they each only gave the minimum, that is approaching UCs entire athletic department budget not too many years back....from just 26 people...this one year....before any TV revenue or tickets sold or merchandising, or licensing, or concessions or the umpteen other revenue sources are rolled in. We throw rocks at guys rolling in M-1 Abrams and tell ourselves that the rocks are at least improving in accuracy....a little...maybe.

(01-12-2016 06:03 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  No idea what they are really worth, but as I stated in a thread several months ago: at one of the Alabama games I attended this past year (UT) they honored the newest members of the Bryant Foundation on the field. I believe I counted 26 names on the list they put up on the scoreboard. These were the 26 newest members of the annual over $1,000,000 donor club.

If they each only gave the minimum, that is approaching UCs entire athletic department budget not too many years back....from just 26 people...this one year....before any TV revenue or tickets sold or merchandising, or licensing, or concessions or the umpteen other revenue sources are rolled in. We throw rocks at guys rolling in M-1 Abrams and tell ourselves that the rocks are at least improving in accuracy....a little...maybe.

Bama football is the program in that state, period. Surprised that they have not bought a better bball program, because if they wanted to get down and dirty and roll around in the mud with UK they could.

According to my kid, nobody even knew UK was coming to Tuscaloosa for a game last weekend. Right now folks down there view basketball like we do college baseball

(01-12-2016 06:32 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  According to my kid, nobody even knew UK was coming to Tuscaloosa for a game last weekend. Right now folks down there view basketball like we do college baseball

Yep, not surprised. They have some really nice arenas down there also. No bball on Wed though, Church Night.

(01-12-2016 06:36 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 06:32 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  According to my kid, nobody even knew UK was coming to Tuscaloosa for a game last weekend. Right now folks down there view basketball like we do college baseball

Yep, not surprised. They have some really nice arenas down there also. No bball on Wed though, Church Night.

WTF is church night?

I think it might be a southern baptist thing but I could be making that up in my foggy memory.

(01-12-2016 07:56 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I think it might be a southern baptist thing but I could be making that up in my foggy memory.

So it's probably not the southern version of Devil's night?

(01-12-2016 07:56 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I think it might be a southern baptist thing but I could be making that up in my foggy memory.

It sounds like maybe they're the main ones, but other Protestant Churches also often use Wednesday night either for services or related activities like Bible Study or Prayer meetings it seems.

I had never heard of Wednesday Church Night either, but did a little researching and surpisingly to me anyway it's apparently been pretty big for awhile now (in the South especially but not exclusively e.g. Cleveland if you go by a few posters in this old thread):

When did Wednesday start to be church day for Christians?

My grandfather was a pastor for one of the baptist churches near/in Dayton (Drexel?). Went to quite a few Wednesday night church sermons. Those were the best because afterwords we'd have dinner at the church (kind of like a potluck) and toss the football around with the other kids. That was probably about nineteen years ago.

I went to Ohio Northern for law school and they were Methodist affiliated. I think they took either Wed or Thurs mornings off for church services. Of course this just gave the kiddies a reason to go out drinking the night before and sleep the next morning.

(01-12-2016 08:02 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 07:56 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I think it might be a southern baptist thing but I could be making that up in my foggy memory.

It sounds like maybe they're the main ones, but other Protestant Churches also often use Wednesday night either for services or related activities like Bible Study or Prayer meetings it seems.

I had never heard of Wednesday Church Night either, but did a little researching and surpisingly to me anyway it's apparently been pretty big for awhile now (in the South especially but not exclusively e.g. Cleveland if you go by a few posters in this old thread):

When did Wednesday start to be church day for Christians?

As I understand it, it is mainly a Southern Baptist thing. My ex grew up that way in E. Tennessee and her family always did Wed. night church services. And Sunday of course.

(01-12-2016 07:56 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I think it might be a southern baptist thing but I could be making that up in my foggy memory.

Another big deal down there is legacy stuff. Go to the same school you Dad did, join the same Fraternity, make those business connections very early on.

Up 100 miles north in the MAC high school conference (mostly Catholic, some Protestants), no athletic events are scheduled for Wednesday nights so local churchs can have cathechism, choir practice, etc. Been that way for a century.