http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/inde..._pa_2.html

This is an Ann Arbor News article written I believe by the U of M beat writer. I suggest you read the comments. I agree that apparently the only reason for the article is to say well look how great U of M is and how poor EMU is.

You know there is a luxury tax in professional sports to try to even the playing field. I wouldn't mind seeing a luxury tax on the P5 including U of M to even the playing field.

Of course what the article doesn't say that the other Div I schools in Michigan which includes CMU and WMU also subsidize their sports out of the general fund. And by the way this is true of most Div I schools in the country. Surprise U of M is an exception.

I also agree that the only time the Ann Arbor News covers U of M is well its suits their purpose to elevate U of M and dump on EMU. Its not fair and unbiased coverage.

The article fails to mention that EMU has won the Jacoby and Cartwright awards recently or improvements in our academics. Our coaches and staff (players)are doing a great job given the budget constraints.

(01-11-2016 04:57 AM)emu79 Wrote:  This is an Ann Arbor News article written I believe by the U of M beat writer. I suggest you read the comments. I agree that apparently the only reason for the article is to say well look how great U of M is and how poor EMU is.

You know there is a luxury tax in professional sports to try to even the playing field. I wouldn't mind seeing a luxury tax on the P5 including U of M to even the playing field.

Of course what the article doesn't say that the other Div I schools in Michigan which includes CMU and WMU also subsidize their sports out of the general fund. And by the way this is true of most Div I schools in the country. Surprise U of M is an exception.

I also agree that the only time the Ann Arbor News covers U of M is well its suits their purpose to elevate U of M and dump on EMU. Its not fair and unbiased coverage.

The article fails to mention that EMU has won the Jacoby and Cartwright awards recently or improvements in our academics. Our coaches and staff (players)are doing a great job given the budget constraints.

Should get -2 for this post.

Jeremy Allen is an EMU alum, like you.

Unlike you, he worked in Sports Info under Jim Streeter.

He is an EMU fan, understands EMU sports, and has no ax to grind nor did i find him doing so.

I thought the article laid things out well.

I do know Jeremy, although not well. He is a good guy. I have e-mailed him a number of times in the past.

Someone else jumped on him for an article and I told this person: "Don't shoot the messenger."

I don't hold the writer accountable. He's just doing his job. Unfortunately he works for a media source who soul mission is to generate clicks and comments. They do this by agitating the readers with partial stories like this. They do not provide the full picture and the reader is left misled by their own interpretation. This is not just EMU coverage that they do this with. I know local leaders that refuse to talk to M live because they have been misquoted while the story is twisted to agitate the readers.

The comments after that story are interesting. Amazing how many people do not know the facts.

BTW, I believe Jeremy is the education writer for MLive in Ann Arbor so his two big schools would be (fill in the blank).

(01-11-2016 06:43 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  I don't hold the writer accountable. He's just doing his job. Unfortunately he works for a media source who soul mission is to generate clicks and comments. They do this by agitating the readers with partial stories like this. They do not provide the full picture and the reader is left misled by their own interpretation. This is not just EMU coverage that they do this with. I know local leaders that refuse to talk to M live because they have been misquoted while the story is twisted to agitate the readers.

The comments after that story are interesting. Amazing how many people do not know the facts.

careful or you will get a minus 2 from steve

(01-11-2016 06:55 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(01-11-2016 06:43 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  I don't hold the writer accountable. He's just doing his job. Unfortunately he works for a media source who soul mission is to generate clicks and comments. They do this by agitating the readers with partial stories like this. They do not provide the full picture and the reader is left misled by their own interpretation. This is not just EMU coverage that they do this with. I know local leaders that refuse to talk to M live because they have been misquoted while the story is twisted to agitate the readers.

The comments after that story are interesting. Amazing how many people do not know the facts.

careful or you will get a minus 2 from steve

I prefer doing the pinocchios... (1 - 4 pinocchios like the fact checkers do).

(01-11-2016 06:23 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-11-2016 04:57 AM)emu79 Wrote:  This is an Ann Arbor News article written I believe by the U of M beat writer. I suggest you read the comments. I agree that apparently the only reason for the article is to say well look how great U of M is and how poor EMU is.

You know there is a luxury tax in professional sports to try to even the playing field. I wouldn't mind seeing a luxury tax on the P5 including U of M to even the playing field.

Of course what the article doesn't say that the other Div I schools in Michigan which includes CMU and WMU also subsidize their sports out of the general fund. And by the way this is true of most Div I schools in the country. Surprise U of M is an exception.

I also agree that the only time the Ann Arbor News covers U of M is well its suits their purpose to elevate U of M and dump on EMU. Its not fair and unbiased coverage.

The article fails to mention that EMU has won the Jacoby and Cartwright awards recently or improvements in our academics. Our coaches and staff (players)are doing a great job given the budget constraints.

Should get -2 for this post.

Jeremy Allen is an EMU alum, like you.

Unlike you, he worked in Sports Info under Jim Streeter.

He is an EMU fan, understands EMU sports, and has no ax to grind nor did i find him doing so.

I thought the article laid things out well.

I do know Jeremy, although not well. He is a good guy. I have e-mailed him a number of times in the past.

Someone else jumped on him for an article and I told this person: "Don't shoot the messenger."

I exercise my opinion and a minus two from isn't going to corral me speaking my mind the message from mr Allen was incomplete in my opinion and to compare emu with um is not an apples to apples comparison he should compare emu with other mac schools and um with other big 10 schools

(01-11-2016 06:59 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-11-2016 06:55 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(01-11-2016 06:43 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  I don't hold the writer accountable. He's just doing his job. Unfortunately he works for a media source who soul mission is to generate clicks and comments. They do this by agitating the readers with partial stories like this. They do not provide the full picture and the reader is left misled by their own interpretation. This is not just EMU coverage that they do this with. I know local leaders that refuse to talk to M live because they have been misquoted while the story is twisted to agitate the readers.

The comments after that story are interesting. Amazing how many people do not know the facts.

careful or you will get a minus 2 from steve

I prefer doing the pinocchios... (1 - 4 pinocchios like the fact checkers do).

well then you trip over your own nose

(01-11-2016 07:01 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(01-11-2016 06:23 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(01-11-2016 04:57 AM)emu79 Wrote:  This is an Ann Arbor News article written I believe by the U of M beat writer. I suggest you read the comments. I agree that apparently the only reason for the article is to say well look how great U of M is and how poor EMU is.

You know there is a luxury tax in professional sports to try to even the playing field. I wouldn't mind seeing a luxury tax on the P5 including U of M to even the playing field.

Of course what the article doesn't say that the other Div I schools in Michigan which includes CMU and WMU also subsidize their sports out of the general fund. And by the way this is true of most Div I schools in the country. Surprise U of M is an exception.

I also agree that the only time the Ann Arbor News covers U of M is well its suits their purpose to elevate U of M and dump on EMU. Its not fair and unbiased coverage.

The article fails to mention that EMU has won the Jacoby and Cartwright awards recently or improvements in our academics. Our coaches and staff (players)are doing a great job given the budget constraints.

Should get -2 for this post.

Jeremy Allen is an EMU alum, like you.

Unlike you, he worked in Sports Info under Jim Streeter.

He is an EMU fan, understands EMU sports, and has no ax to grind nor did i find him doing so.

I thought the article laid things out well.

I do know Jeremy, although not well. He is a good guy. I have e-mailed him a number of times in the past.

Someone else jumped on him for an article and I told this person: "Don't shoot the messenger."

I exercise my opinion and a minus two from isn't going to corral me speaking my mind the message from mr Allen was incomplete in my opinion and to compare emu with um is not an apples to apples comparison he should compare emu with other mac schools and um with other big 10 schools

Excuse me, but are we reading the same article? The one you posted?

I don't see the comparisons to UofM?

What I read had nothing to do with UofM. It was simply EMU.

Can you show me the 'compare and contrast' to UofM?

EMU fans really need to get a grip.

One of my other things is how our fans gripe about WEMU.

WEMU is in fact an EMU enterprise, but it is also a NPR station which serves Washtenaw County. It is a Ypsilanti-Ann Arbor local station. If I hear things correctly, a good bit of funding comes from west of U.S. 23.

So it covers Ypsilanti, Ann Arbor, Saline, Dexter, etc. just like WJR, WWJ, etc. cover Wayne, Oakland, Macomb counties.

Folks who want to know about road conditions on U.S. 23 would more than likely tune in to WEMU, not WJR.

When talking local sports, UDM is within the city of Detroit. Oakland U. is (obviously) in Oakland County up 75. We are a good ride from the western most point in Detroit. We really aren't the same as UDM or OU.

Our base is Washtenaw County, WEMU, etc.

....and the football and basketball coaches salaries are both at the BOTTOM of the MAC rankings. End of story.

Never seen a program that is dumped on by it's own local media and 'fans' more than EMU.

Thank You coaches, staff, support people, and players of all sports, for fighting this uphill battle.

Truly pathetic.

(01-11-2016 12:59 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  ....and the football and basketball coaches salaries are both at the BOTTOM of the MAC rankings. End of story.

Never seen a program that is dumped on by it's own local media and 'fans' more than EMU.

Thank You coaches, staff, support people, and players of all sports, for fighting this uphill battle.

Truly pathetic.

Mlive is like Facebook disguised as a media source. Throw some fun on your wall and watch the likes and comments roll in. Only in their case, those likes and comments pay their bills. It's got about the same credibility as the average teenagers Twitter feed.

(01-11-2016 12:59 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  ....and the football and basketball coaches salaries are both at the BOTTOM of the MAC rankings. End of story.

Never seen a program that is dumped on by it's own local media and 'fans' more than EMU.

Thank You coaches, staff, support people, and players of all sports, for fighting this uphill battle.

Truly pathetic.

I agree.

Sometimes with friends like our friends, who needs enemies...

EMU is one of the toughest uphill battles one will find, esp. FB.