Houston does have 6.6 million people and in a football hotbed. Just drawing a circle around the city is enough. Everybody else has to do a little traveling.
Houstons facilities aren't top notch, and yeah houston is the biggest city in the conference, but we also face probably the most competition for our kids too fighting off both SEC and b12 schools.
It took 1 season of winning to do this. Just one.
ECU is very capable of it.
UConn I think has so much potential..
I agree with OP, anyone in our league has the potential to grab wins and 5 stars from P5 programs. Just need the right direction and leadership.
(01-05-2016 03:03 PM)isidnirb Wrote: Big props to Houston's success this season and especially in the recruiting trail.
Every member of the AAC has the same excuse of competing with SEC, ACC, BIG12, BIG12 and Pac12 schools. It is obvious Houston has the same obstacles we all do. But the staff and school said F that. We will chase the same 5* and 4* recruits and transfers...and put that much energy and more into it. It is impressive.
I just hope that other schools and coaches do and have the same attitude. No reason to be a one team league. If Houston can do it...so can UCF, USF, ECU, Memphis, Temple, etc.
Coach Mo you are on deck. Pirates.
Come on guy. Herman is riding a magic carpet right now. He is playing with someone elses recruits and has struck gold. This is one in a million for G5 schools. Recruiting harder is not going to get more 4 or 5 star kids to ECU or any other school in this league.
This is a one of kind , once in a generation find for Houston. Congrats for them. But it is pure fantasy to think that some how other schools in this league can do the same in terms of recruiting. Not going to happen, even.
i half agree and half disagree
i agree what herman is doing with changing a mindset will almost be impossible to do from scratch like he is.. but i dont think its once i generation, i think its a paved road type of deal
i think herman is paving a road and paving it might be long and difficult almost impossible but when its said and done ..the road will always be there
if houston is successful with our recruits, in title conversations, get these guys drafted ..i think everyone in this league can then point to houston to the recruits and say it can be done in this league..and i guarantee it will be dramatically easier
look at uconn in bball... tulane, ucf and a bunch of other teams in this league started picking up 4star bbabll recruits, something neither had ever really done, and the association of playing in a league with uconn who won the title made the sell some much easier
even just getting them to commit is paving , a specific example is an smu recruits recently got a ton of p5 offers,he almost completely removed everything SMU from his social media..but after a dramatically higher touted recruit committed to houston who he knew, he started tweeting about smu again and how he cant wait to face so and so...if the elite players you know are coming to your league, it gives a perception that you arent going to lesser league
(01-05-2016 03:03 PM)isidnirb Wrote: Big props to Houston's success this season and especially in the recruiting trail.
Every member of the AAC has the same excuse of competing with SEC, ACC, BIG12, BIG12 and Pac12 schools. It is obvious Houston has the same obstacles we all do. But the staff and school said F that. We will chase the same 5* and 4* recruits and transfers...and put that much energy and more into it. It is impressive.
I just hope that other schools and coaches do and have the same attitude. No reason to be a one team league. If Houston can do it...so can UCF, USF, ECU, Memphis, Temple, etc.
Coach Mo you are on deck. Pirates.
Come on guy. Herman is riding a magic carpet right now. He is playing with someone elses recruits and has struck gold. This is one in a million for G5 schools. Recruiting harder is not going to get more 4 or 5 star kids to ECU or any other school in this league.
This is a one of kind , once in a generation find for Houston. Congrats for them. But it is pure fantasy to think that some how other schools in this league can do the same in terms of recruiting. Not going to happen, even.
Thanks guy. TCU did it. Utah did it with Urban. (no idea on recruit rankings back then)
Yes a coach can do it. Stop selling yourself and this league short.
I am talking about the ability to recruit 4 and 5 star guys. Just never, ever, going to happen at ECU. Sure we can be competitive and should be in the AAC. But to win you need talent and great coaching. The combination of both has eluded ECU for a long time.
(01-05-2016 03:03 PM)isidnirb Wrote: Big props to Houston's success this season and especially in the recruiting trail.
Every member of the AAC has the same excuse of competing with SEC, ACC, BIG12, BIG12 and Pac12 schools. It is obvious Houston has the same obstacles we all do. But the staff and school said F that. We will chase the same 5* and 4* recruits and transfers...and put that much energy and more into it. It is impressive.
I just hope that other schools and coaches do and have the same attitude. No reason to be a one team league. If Houston can do it...so can UCF, USF, ECU, Memphis, Temple, etc.
Coach Mo you are on deck. Pirates.
Come on guy. Herman is riding a magic carpet right now. He is playing with someone elses recruits and has struck gold. This is one in a million for G5 schools. Recruiting harder is not going to get more 4 or 5 star kids to ECU or any other school in this league.
This is a one of kind , once in a generation find for Houston. Congrats for them. But it is pure fantasy to think that some how other schools in this league can do the same in terms of recruiting. Not going to happen, even.
Thanks guy. TCU did it. Utah did it with Urban. (no idea on recruit rankings back then)
Yes a coach can do it. Stop selling yourself and this league short.
I am talking about the ability to recruit 4 and 5 star guys. Just never, ever, going to happen at ECU. Sure we can be competitive and should be in the AAC. But to win you need talent and great coaching. The combination of both has eluded ECU for a long time.
I disagree.
If Scottie Mo doesn't up ECU's recruiting ranking to AT LEAST USF LEVEL, then he's a failure.
Chiefly because Ruff has established ECU football as being on par, competitively, with the other BCS football programs in that region.
ECU has more to capitalize on than most. That's why it was so baffling they changed leadership. Scottie Mo MUST start bringing in a LOT more 3 stars and some 4 stars. Otherwise, you're relying on a green coach to out strategize a lot of really good coaches in this conference.
I'm sure Doc Holliday could have loaded ECU's roster with those kinds of kids. But, with the way Ruff was let go, a coach like that wasn't in the picture.
Scottie Mo needs to somehow make ECU the "it" school, or his stay will be short.
He should play this video for recruits. He's gotta do something. He wasn't hired to mine diamonds in the rough.
(01-05-2016 03:03 PM)isidnirb Wrote: Big props to Houston's success this season and especially in the recruiting trail.
Every member of the AAC has the same excuse of competing with SEC, ACC, BIG12, BIG12 and Pac12 schools. It is obvious Houston has the same obstacles we all do. But the staff and school said F that. We will chase the same 5* and 4* recruits and transfers...and put that much energy and more into it. It is impressive.
I just hope that other schools and coaches do and have the same attitude. No reason to be a one team league. If Houston can do it...so can UCF, USF, ECU, Memphis, Temple, etc.
Coach Mo you are on deck. Pirates.
Come on guy. Herman is riding a magic carpet right now. He is playing with someone elses recruits and has struck gold. This is one in a million for G5 schools. Recruiting harder is not going to get more 4 or 5 star kids to ECU or any other school in this league.
This is a one of kind , once in a generation find for Houston. Congrats for them. But it is pure fantasy to think that some how other schools in this league can do the same in terms of recruiting. Not going to happen, even.
Thanks guy. TCU did it. Utah did it with Urban. (no idea on recruit rankings back then)
Yes a coach can do it. Stop selling yourself and this league short.
I am talking about the ability to recruit 4 and 5 star guys. Just never, ever, going to happen at ECU. Sure we can be competitive and should be in the AAC. But to win you need talent and great coaching. The combination of both has eluded ECU for a long time.
Hell.. PJ Fleck would have recruited those kinds of kids to ECU. Look at what he's doing at a MAC Michigan program.
ECU needs to raise the bar. It's too bad they took themselves out of the running for someone with the history of a PJ Fleck.
(01-05-2016 03:03 PM)isidnirb Wrote: Big props to Houston's success this season and especially in the recruiting trail.
Every member of the AAC has the same excuse of competing with SEC, ACC, BIG12, BIG12 and Pac12 schools. It is obvious Houston has the same obstacles we all do. But the staff and school said F that. We will chase the same 5* and 4* recruits and transfers...and put that much energy and more into it. It is impressive.
I just hope that other schools and coaches do and have the same attitude. No reason to be a one team league. If Houston can do it...so can UCF, USF, ECU, Memphis, Temple, etc.
Coach Mo you are on deck. Pirates.
Come on guy. Herman is riding a magic carpet right now. He is playing with someone elses recruits and has struck gold. This is one in a million for G5 schools. Recruiting harder is not going to get more 4 or 5 star kids to ECU or any other school in this league.
This is a one of kind , once in a generation find for Houston. Congrats for them. But it is pure fantasy to think that some how other schools in this league can do the same in terms of recruiting. Not going to happen, even.
Thanks guy. TCU did it. Utah did it with Urban. (no idea on recruit rankings back then)
Yes a coach can do it. Stop selling yourself and this league short.
I am talking about the ability to recruit 4 and 5 star guys. Just never, ever, going to happen at ECU. Sure we can be competitive and should be in the AAC. But to win you need talent and great coaching. The combination of both has eluded ECU for a long time.
I disagree.
If Scottie Mo doesn't up ECU's recruiting ranking to AT LEAST USF LEVEL, then he's a failure.
Chiefly because Ruff has established ECU football as being on par, competitively, with the other BCS football programs in that region.
ECU has more to capitalize on than most. That's why it was so baffling they changed leadership. Scottie Mo MUST start bringing in a LOT more 3 stars and some 4 stars. Otherwise, you're relying on a green coach to out strategize a lot of really good coaches in this conference.
I'm sure Doc Holliday could have loaded ECU's roster with those kinds of kids. But, with the way Ruff was let go, a coach like that wasn't in the picture.
Scottie Mo needs to somehow make ECU the "it" school, or his stay will be short.
He should play this video for recruits. He's gotta do something. He wasn't hired to mine diamonds in the rough.
Not sure what you mean. Ruff had many solid 3 star guys out of high school but never any big fish. Two of our best players ever consisted of a walk on and a QB whose other offer was to Harvard.
I would love for Coach MO to up our recruiting rank8ngs,just don't see it ever happening. Hope I am wrong.
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(01-05-2016 10:23 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote: Sumlin did not believe he could recruit 4* or 5* kids to UH.
You certainly won't if you don't try and he didn't.
IMO, all the Florida schools need are coaches with a pulse to recruit some great talent. USF has been doing so for several years.
UCF always recruited several good athletes. Don't know about this year.
Tulane sits in a great recruiting area.
Where they are located reminds of what Yeoman used to say.
"You could swing a dead cat and hit 10 D1 players".
Temple and Memphis certainly had some good athletes this year.
UC and UConn have good athletes. UC has always been a problem for UH.
I believe most if not all AAC schools can recruit very well.
The AAC is a good conference.
I too believe this IS a great league, a league with a bunch of ready made strong programs who are no strangers to winning... Here hope Houston has given Mike Aresco additional amo to when he faces our TV partners soon in negotiating the tv deal this league deserves.
(01-05-2016 04:55 PM)vcoog Wrote: Houstons facilities aren't top notch, and yeah houston is the biggest city in the conference, but we also face probably the most competition for our kids too fighting off both SEC and b12 schools.
It took 1 season of winning to do this. Just one.
ECU is very capable of it.
UConn I think has so much potential..
I agree with OP, anyone in our league has the potential to grab wins and 5 stars from P5 programs. Just need the right direction and leadership.
Finally we have an administration at Memphis that knows the importance of football. Our former president couldn't give two sh!tz about football and our former A.D. only tolerated it. Thankfully our new president and A.D. are strongly committed to make our football program grow (they're also fans of the sport) and be a force in this league and nationally. Hopefully our new coach (Mike Norvell) will take our program to the next step, I have confidence he will. Looking forward to next season, it should be fun. I wish the best to all in this league (except when they play Memphis). Overall, this league did very well against P5 schools. Hopefully teams in this league can continue this next year and in the future. Onward and upward....GO TIGERS!!!!
