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Notre Dame - Saturday
Is a sell-out expected for the ND game Saturday night?

WMU is charging $30 and is not providing student guests the usual discount.

Still not a bad price.
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I just understand why the attendace isn't better. Students do a great job supporting the team, but the other 2/3 of the rink has more empty seats vs fans. Now they don't want to give the students thier usual discount 03-nutkick

Bronco hockey should be the hottest ticket in town. Is there another sport at WMU who's home games regular features the top ranked teams in the country? This year, 10 of 15 home dates feature teams ranked in the top 20, with a possible 4 home games vs #1 team (s) in the country:

Oct 13 #10 BG
Oct 20-31 #1 Omaha
Nov 13-14 #9 SCSU
Jan 9 #15 Irish
Jan 29-30 #1 North Dakota
Feb 26-27 #17 DU

Yet attendace for those games so far has ranged between 60-80% of capacity. I don't get it, other than Bronco Hockey is not being marketed very well.
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RE: Notre Dame - Saturday
Fever it's simple. The students get in as a part of the tuition so why not come out. Second, the average hockey fan has no idea who these teams are, even if they are ranked in the Top 10 or 20. Third, they do not market. You are right. Seems like they feel people will just show up. There is no buzz with this team, you see the same in-between period promotions, game in and game out, and if the team is not playing well, frankly it's plain boring at Lawson. Last, and most importantly, everyone loves a winner and when you are not winning, you are not filling the stands.

The move to the NCHC, while the competition is better, may not have been a great move in terms of familiar teams with a hockey history with the Broncos. People like familiarity. Now, WMU starts winning and new rivalries start, fans will return.
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RE: Notre Dame - Saturday
(01-05-2016 09:01 AM)BroncoFever Wrote:  I just understand why the attendace isn't better. Students do a great job supporting the team, but the other 2/3 of the rink has more empty seats vs fans. Now they don't want to give the students thier usual discount 03-nutkick

Bronco hockey should be the hottest ticket in town. Is there another sport at WMU who's home games regular features the top ranked teams in the country? This year, 10 of 15 home dates feature teams ranked in the top 20, with a possible 4 home games vs #1 team (s) in the country:

Oct 13 #10 BG
Oct 20-31 #1 Omaha
Nov 13-14 #9 SCSU
Jan 9 #15 Irish
Jan 29-30 #1 North Dakota
Feb 26-27 #17 DU

Yet attendace for those games so far has ranged between 60-80% of capacity. I don't get it, other than Bronco Hockey is not being marketed very well.

I'm a little annoyed about lack of the student-guest discount since my son, who is a WMU student, will be bringing his two siblings with him to sit in the student section. It is only costing me a little more, but still... I can think of plenty of places to spend that $, including another ticket to bring one of my kid's friends. This is ND and WMU should want that arena PACKED and LOUD.

Has WMU done any promotion to students? Dorms open on Saturday, classes begin on Monday. You could/should get entire families coming to this game!

If the game is going to be a sell-out anyway, I would understand.

If nothing else, target the Catholic community just to sell the seats. So what if they cheer for the Irish?! WMU gets the $.
01-05-2016 10:45 AM
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RE: Notre Dame - Saturday
(01-05-2016 09:01 AM)BroncoFever Wrote:  I just understand why the attendace isn't better. Students do a great job supporting the team, but the other 2/3 of the rink has more empty seats vs fans. Now they don't want to give the students thier usual discount 03-nutkick

Bronco hockey should be the hottest ticket in town. Is there another sport at WMU who's home games regular features the top ranked teams in the country? This year, 10 of 15 home dates feature teams ranked in the top 20, with a possible 4 home games vs #1 team (s) in the country:

Oct 13 #10 BG
Oct 20-31 #1 Omaha
Nov 13-14 #9 SCSU
Jan 9 #15 Irish
Jan 29-30 #1 North Dakota
Feb 26-27 #17 DU

Yet attendace for those games so far has ranged between 60-80% of capacity. I don't get it, other than Bronco Hockey is not being marketed very well.

Attendance has actually been pretty good when you consider it would cost $120 in tickets alone for a family of four to sit on a hard bench. Then you add food to that. All for a team that gets very little publicity. Family of four can go to a KWing game for $48. Movie $23. Stay home and watch the Red Wings on TV for $0.
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RE: Notre Dame - Saturday
(01-05-2016 09:01 AM)BroncoFever Wrote:  I just understand why the attendace isn't better. Students do a great job supporting the team, but the other 2/3 of the rink has more empty seats vs fans. Now they don't want to give the students thier usual discount 03-nutkick

Bronco hockey should be the hottest ticket in town. Is there another sport at WMU who's home games regular features the top ranked teams in the country? This year, 10 of 15 home dates feature teams ranked in the top 20, with a possible 4 home games vs #1 team (s) in the country:

Oct 13 #10 BG
Oct 20-31 #1 Omaha
Nov 13-14 #9 SCSU
Jan 9 #15 Irish
Jan 29-30 #1 North Dakota
Feb 26-27 #17 DU

Yet attendace for those games so far has ranged between 60-80% of capacity. I don't get it, other than Bronco Hockey is not being marketed very well.

Not trying to create an argument again, or beat a dead horse, but with all due respect, most "Bronco" fans want to see (1) what they consider big name teams, which means MSU, UM, Notre Dame, and (2) a winning team. You and I know that North Dakota, St Cloud, Duluth, Omaha, and Miami are great programs, or teams having good seasons, but except for a few conscientious hockey people, most don't care about those schools any more than they do Ferris, Mich. Tech, or LSSU. They do perk up though if our boys are on extended winning streaks, or at the top of the league standings. Everyone loves a winner.

Marketing can help, but winning games, and being at the top of the league gets folks excited, and keeps interest in the program. Less than that, if for extended periods, saps the energy from a program.

There will always be a certain amount of bronco hockey supporters who show up come hell or high water. Others want wins. If we cant go on decent unbeaten streaks, and compete at the top of the standings, in this conference or any other conference, our hockey program will lose the nice momentum that Blashil started, and will become dormant as a program. Nobody will care how good a conference we play in; only that we are at the bottom of the standings.

Likewise, winning can quickly turn a downtrodden program into an exciting one. Look at what Bowling Green, Minn St, and Mich Tech have done the past couple years. And trust me, none of the folks enjoying the ride that those schools are enjoying gives two hoots that their conference isn't the SEC of the hockey world. Its all a matter of perspective.

The problem with the NCHC is that it is arguably the best conference, from top to bottom, in the country, and even the bottom half teams are really good. Its real hard to win real big in this league even if you are the best team. If you are middle of the pack it is even harder to win. And therefore, it is super hard to go on decent unbeaten streaks, or to even go on the kind of run to be considered "hot". It is what it is. Then add salt to the wound by playing these games with marginal home crowds because nobody knows or cares that North Dakota or Denver are perennial hockey power schools. Just another division 2 or 3 football school as far as most are concerned.

.....but I digress
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RE: Notre Dame - Saturday
(01-05-2016 03:26 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(01-05-2016 09:01 AM)BroncoFever Wrote:  I just understand why the attendace isn't better. Students do a great job supporting the team, but the other 2/3 of the rink has more empty seats vs fans. Now they don't want to give the students thier usual discount 03-nutkick

Bronco hockey should be the hottest ticket in town. Is there another sport at WMU who's home games regular features the top ranked teams in the country? This year, 10 of 15 home dates feature teams ranked in the top 20, with a possible 4 home games vs #1 team (s) in the country:

Oct 13 #10 BG
Oct 20-31 #1 Omaha
Nov 13-14 #9 SCSU
Jan 9 #15 Irish
Jan 29-30 #1 North Dakota
Feb 26-27 #17 DU

Yet attendace for those games so far has ranged between 60-80% of capacity. I don't get it, other than Bronco Hockey is not being marketed very well.

Not trying to create an argument again, or beat a dead horse, but with all due respect, most "Bronco" fans want to see (1) what they consider big name teams, which means MSU, UM, Notre Dame, and (2) a winning team. You and I know that North Dakota, St Cloud, Duluth, Omaha, and Miami are great programs, or teams having good seasons, but except for a few conscientious hockey people, most don't care about those schools any more than they do Ferris, Mich. Tech, or LSSU. They do perk up though if our boys are on extended winning streaks, or at the top of the league standings. Everyone loves a winner.

Marketing can help, but winning games, and being at the top of the league gets folks excited, and keeps interest in the program. Less than that, if for extended periods, saps the energy from a program.

There will always be a certain amount of bronco hockey supporters who show up come hell or high water. Others want wins. If we cant go on decent unbeaten streaks, and compete at the top of the standings, in this conference or any other conference, our hockey program will lose the nice momentum that Blashil started, and will become dormant as a program. Nobody will care how good a conference we play in; only that we are at the bottom of the standings.

Likewise, winning can quickly turn a downtrodden program into an exciting one. Look at what Bowling Green, Minn St, and Mich Tech have done the past couple years. And trust me, none of the folks enjoying the ride that those schools are enjoying gives two hoots that their conference isn't the SEC of the hockey world. Its all a matter of perspective.

The problem with the NCHC is that it is arguably the best conference, from top to bottom, in the country, and even the bottom half teams are really good. Its real hard to win real big in this league even if you are the best team. If you are middle of the pack it is even harder to win. And therefore, it is super hard to go on decent unbeaten streaks, or to even go on the kind of run to be considered "hot". It is what it is. Then add salt to the wound by playing these games with marginal home crowds because nobody knows or cares that North Dakota or Denver are perennial hockey power schools. Just another division 2 or 3 football school as far as most are concerned.

.....but I digress
Without are sweep of UNO the season would be absolutely lost in the pair wise rankings. We are sitting in a feasible position to make a tourney run if we can get the offense going.
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(01-06-2016 01:10 AM)JSB3 Wrote:  
(01-05-2016 03:26 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(01-05-2016 09:01 AM)BroncoFever Wrote:  I just understand why the attendace isn't better. Students do a great job supporting the team, but the other 2/3 of the rink has more empty seats vs fans. Now they don't want to give the students thier usual discount 03-nutkick

Bronco hockey should be the hottest ticket in town. Is there another sport at WMU who's home games regular features the top ranked teams in the country? This year, 10 of 15 home dates feature teams ranked in the top 20, with a possible 4 home games vs #1 team (s) in the country:

Oct 13 #10 BG
Oct 20-31 #1 Omaha
Nov 13-14 #9 SCSU
Jan 9 #15 Irish
Jan 29-30 #1 North Dakota
Feb 26-27 #17 DU

Yet attendace for those games so far has ranged between 60-80% of capacity. I don't get it, other than Bronco Hockey is not being marketed very well.

Not trying to create an argument again, or beat a dead horse, but with all due respect, most "Bronco" fans want to see (1) what they consider big name teams, which means MSU, UM, Notre Dame, and (2) a winning team. You and I know that North Dakota, St Cloud, Duluth, Omaha, and Miami are great programs, or teams having good seasons, but except for a few conscientious hockey people, most don't care about those schools any more than they do Ferris, Mich. Tech, or LSSU. They do perk up though if our boys are on extended winning streaks, or at the top of the league standings. Everyone loves a winner.

Marketing can help, but winning games, and being at the top of the league gets folks excited, and keeps interest in the program. Less than that, if for extended periods, saps the energy from a program.

There will always be a certain amount of bronco hockey supporters who show up come hell or high water. Others want wins. If we cant go on decent unbeaten streaks, and compete at the top of the standings, in this conference or any other conference, our hockey program will lose the nice momentum that Blashil started, and will become dormant as a program. Nobody will care how good a conference we play in; only that we are at the bottom of the standings.

Likewise, winning can quickly turn a downtrodden program into an exciting one. Look at what Bowling Green, Minn St, and Mich Tech have done the past couple years. And trust me, none of the folks enjoying the ride that those schools are enjoying gives two hoots that their conference isn't the SEC of the hockey world. Its all a matter of perspective.

The problem with the NCHC is that it is arguably the best conference, from top to bottom, in the country, and even the bottom half teams are really good. Its real hard to win real big in this league even if you are the best team. If you are middle of the pack it is even harder to win. And therefore, it is super hard to go on decent unbeaten streaks, or to even go on the kind of run to be considered "hot". It is what it is. Then add salt to the wound by playing these games with marginal home crowds because nobody knows or cares that North Dakota or Denver are perennial hockey power schools. Just another division 2 or 3 football school as far as most are concerned.

.....but I digress
Without are sweep of UNO the season would be absolutely lost in the pair wise rankings. We are sitting in a feasible position to make a tourney run if we can get the offense going.
There is more to "getting the offense going" than you think.Young D can make breakouts difficult at times and playing top teams with this young team in general will make goals hard to come by.
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There is more to "getting the offense going" than you think.Young D can make breakouts difficult at times and playing top teams with this young team in general will make goals hard to come by.
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I am so tired of the "we are young" excuse. All teams have the same turnover issues. Look at this years senior class. When they were Freshman, there was 8 of them. Today, they are down to Hafner and Laporte. Mellor hasn't been seen in months, Osborne never gets in the lineup, despite his ability to score. Hargrove and Morrison left early, but based on their numbers in the Minors, should have probably stayed. Bloomberg and Pitt were cut from the team. If the team needs veterans you need to find a way to keep them around and provide experience and knowledge. I can maybe understand the Pitt thing, but the others, they stay if they feel they are appreciated.
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RE: Notre Dame - Saturday
There is more to "getting the offense going" than you think.Young D can make breakouts difficult at times and playing top teams with this young team in general will make goals hard to come by.
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I am so tired of the "we are young" excuse. All teams have the same turnover issues. Look at this years senior class. When they were Freshman, there was 8 of them. Today, they are down to Hafner and Laporte. Mellor hasn't been seen in months, Osborne never gets in the lineup, despite his ability to score. Hargrove and Morrison left early, but based on their numbers in the Minors, should have probably stayed. Bloomberg and Pitt were cut from the team. If the team needs veterans you need to find a way to keep them around and provide experience and knowledge. I can maybe understand the Pitt thing, but the others, they stay if they feel they are appreciated.
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I just noticed...Mellor is no longer on the roster on the WMU website.
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