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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
And the land doesn't belong to them? First, the feds shouldn't be owning any land but once they do, do you not know what that means? It belongs to all of us.
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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
That news story is a mess.

So, what happened?
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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
And the land doesn't belong to them? First, the feds shouldn't be owning any land but once they do, do you not know what that means? It belongs to all of us.


Why shouldn't the U.S. Govt own land?
And .... It belongs to all of us? Exactly. That's why we have laws and have the Bureau of Land Management. What right does Cliven's offspring have in it's seizure?
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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
(01-03-2016 05:45 PM)Paul M Wrote:  And the land doesn't belong to them? First, the feds shouldn't be owning any land but once they do, do you not know what that means? It belongs to all of us.

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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
Paul didn't think that statement through.



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The original two criminals set fire to it to cover up a crime.


Cliven's offspring have absolutely no claim but have seized federal property because they think the poachers should have been able to poach and be arsonists because The federal govt shouldn't have claim to the land.
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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
I thought that the federal government was pressuring them to sell their land at one point.
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Info wars tell you that?
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They're just trying to distract from their criminal activity. Obama needs to come down hard on these losers or Trump will.
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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
(01-03-2016 10:49 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  We'll see if the Feds learned anything from Waco and Ruby Ridge. I suspect they have not. If that is the case, they'll of course send in some advanced military equipment probably operated by current or former military personnel -- in gross violation of posse comitatus -- and wipe them out. And in doing so they'll just raise the heat on the low simmer of dissidents. They'll kill Bundy, sure. But they'll create 3 more of him.

Are you threatening terrorist attacks?
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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
Seems like there's a lot of background missing in these stories.

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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
This makes no sense.

What?
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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
The poaching and setting fire to cover it up is just an allegation from the feds. They were doing a burn and it got a measly few federal acres.
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And no CITIZENS have taken or seized anything.
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(01-03-2016 06:11 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I thought that the federal government was pressuring them to sell their land at one point.

Usually the cause of such things. The government makes you offers that you can't refuse. Say no to 'em, see if charges don't arise.
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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
(01-03-2016 07:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(01-03-2016 06:11 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  I thought that the federal government was pressuring them to sell their land at one point.

Usually the cause of such things. The government makes you offers that you can't refuse. Say no to 'em, see if charges don't arise.

I don't claim to know all the background. But I read from a blog with sources that the government had purchased all the surrounding land and this family refused to sell.
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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
Armed people are just borrowing the center for a couple of years without permission. They will stay there as long as they want to Right Paul!
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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
(01-03-2016 05:20 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  These people are terrorists by definition.


Definitions of Terrorism in the U.S. Code

18 U.S.C. § 2331 defines "international terrorism" and "domestic terrorism" for purposes of Chapter 113B of the Code, entitled "Terrorism”:

"International terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:

Involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
Appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
Occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S., or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum.*
"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:

Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.
18 U.S.C. § 2332b defines the term "federal crime of terrorism" as an offense that:

Is calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conduct; and
Is a violation of one of several listed statutes, including § 930© (relating to killing or attempted killing during an attack on a federal facility with a dangerous weapon); and § 1114 (relating to killing or attempted killing of officers and employees of the U.S.).

You can read it yourself, but these people fit the definition. Charge them with terrorism.

If you applied this definition universally, do you know who would far and away be the largest terrorist organization in the world?

The U.S. government.
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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
Paul M. And no CITIZEN has seized anything.




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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
http://usuncut.com/news/5-things-you-nee...-takeover/


Read the comments. The natives arent happy with the Bundy's.
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RE: Militia takes over wildlife refuge HQ after peaceful Burns protest.
Violent protesters injure innocent civilians, members of the media, police & fire personnel and do tens of millions of dollars of damage to public and private property in not one but two cities and the leftists decry law enforcement using armored vehicles and tear gas.


Protesters who haven't hurt a soul and done little if any damage to a remote, isolated building and they want them summarily executed.

Liberalism is indeed a mental disease.
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