odugrad10
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RE: Men's Basketball Scheduling, Conference RPI, etc.
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Norfolk doesn't have 2 arenas. Got it. I can mark them off my list.
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You could do that. But you'd be wrong.
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RE: Men's Basketball Scheduling, Conference RPI, etc.
(01-05-2016 10:20 PM)Dracorex Wrote: (01-05-2016 11:38 AM)monarchman Wrote: (01-05-2016 11:09 AM)Dracorex Wrote: (01-05-2016 10:28 AM)monarx Wrote: (01-05-2016 12:46 AM)Dracorex Wrote: yeah... neutral site games. Do you want 300 people at the title game? That's what you'll get.
Im not so sure. If its somewhat centrally located I think you could get 6,000+ if there is good local support for the event. The CAA would sell out 11,000+ seats for the championship if the local team was there, but even the years the local team wasn't in it there would be 6 or 7000. Of course, that was because people could drive to the location. Charlotte, Atlanta, Charleston are all doable from the east. Nashville, Birmingham, Mobile would work for the middle, and pick a Texas location for the west. Rotate the location between east, central and west every year. Make it an event for the area too. Battle of the bands, a parade, fan area, high school promotions/involvement etc to get the public excited.
Charlotte/Norfolk, Bham/Nashville, and El Paso. Those should be the hosting sites rotations. Provided that there are 2 arenas within distance of the hosting site. I don't know some of those cities well enough to say if they even have 2 arenas.
The two arena requirement needs to go away, and the men's and women's event should be separated. No reason for them to be together other than laziness from the league. This would allow for lot more schools to bid for these tournaments.
Norfolk doesn't have 2 arenas. Got it. I can mark them off my list.
Norfolk has 2 arenas (ODU's the Ted and the Scope), but right now the Scope is under contract with the MEAC for their conference tourney for a few years.
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Re: RE: Men's Basketball Scheduling, Conference RPI, etc.
(01-05-2016 10:20 PM)Dracorex Wrote: (01-05-2016 11:38 AM)monarchman Wrote: (01-05-2016 11:09 AM)Dracorex Wrote: (01-05-2016 10:28 AM)monarx Wrote: (01-05-2016 12:46 AM)Dracorex Wrote: yeah... neutral site games. Do you want 300 people at the title game? That's what you'll get.
Im not so sure. If its somewhat centrally located I think you could get 6,000+ if there is good local support for the event. The CAA would sell out 11,000+ seats for the championship if the local team was there, but even the years the local team wasn't in it there would be 6 or 7000. Of course, that was because people could drive to the location. Charlotte, Atlanta, Charleston are all doable from the east. Nashville, Birmingham, Mobile would work for the middle, and pick a Texas location for the west. Rotate the location between east, central and west every year. Make it an event for the area too. Battle of the bands, a parade, fan area, high school promotions/involvement etc to get the public excited.
Charlotte/Norfolk, Bham/Nashville, and El Paso. Those should be the hosting sites rotations. Provided that there are 2 arenas within distance of the hosting site. I don't know some of those cities well enough to say if they even have 2 arenas.
The two arena requirement needs to go away, and the men's and women's event should be separated. No reason for them to be together other than laziness from the league. This would allow for lot more schools to bid for these tournaments.
Norfolk doesn't have 2 arenas. Got it. I can mark them off my list.
Wrong. There is more than one arena in Norfolk. Plus a new NBA - quality arena coming to Virginia Beach. The MEAC currently has Scope tied down for the time being. However, once possible, absolutely expect ODU/Norfolk to put in a competitive bid to host regularly.
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RE: Men's Basketball Scheduling, Conference RPI, etc.
(01-05-2016 11:09 AM)Dracorex Wrote: ...As long as the SEC plays their tourney in Nashville, MTSU is probably not going to host. Sorry, Blue Raiders.
If we're talking Bridgestone in Nashville and not Murphy Center, Bridgestone does not host the SEC men's tourney in 2018 and 2022.
I've been to Bridgestone for three events in the last month, MT's Auburn game in MBB, and two Nashville Predators NHL games. It is a hell of a great venue, with plenty of options for food and entertainment in walking distance with some really great lodging in walking distance as well. With the boom in construction all around, it is only going to get better.
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RE: Men's Basketball Scheduling, Conference RPI, etc.
C-USA should be trying to get that 2018 spot right now.Part of the women's tourney could be played at MT OR other various sites.
There is no way anyone could be against one year(2018) in Nashville.2022 is a little too far off to worry about at this point.
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RE: Men's Basketball Scheduling, Conference RPI, etc.
(01-06-2016 12:46 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote: C-USA should be trying to get that 2018 spot right now.Part of the women's tourney could be played at MT OR other various sites.
There is no way anyone could be against one year(2018) in Nashville.2022 is a little too far off to worry about at this point.
Nashville would be a great spot for the CUSA tourney. Relatively close for WKU, MTSU and UAB.
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RE: Men's Basketball Scheduling, Conference RPI, etc.
(01-06-2016 01:31 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: Bridgestone is hosting an NCAA subregional in 2018: http://www.bridgestonearena.com/news/det...tournament
Not sure if that precludes them from hosting a conference tournament the week before.
Not sure why that would even be a consideration. Hell Bridgestone is extremely busy all the time and they seem to be able to handle any challenges. Last month MT and Auburn played a basketball game starting at noon that went to OT and then that evening the Nashville Predators played an Ice Hockey game with the Colorado Avalanche. Can't see that a couple tournaments a week or two weeks apart would be a problem. It might be a problem somewhere else that it is not used to it, but not Nashville or Bridgestone.
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RE: Men's Basketball Scheduling, Conference RPI, etc.
Here's some conference disparity for you...
UAB is a 22.5 point favorite over UTSA.
This is the largest spread between two CUSA teams since 13-14 when UTSA was a 21.5 point dog at Southern Miss.
Before these 2 games, there hadn't been 20+ points spreads since the mid 2000's when Memphis would draw lines between 25 and 30 a couple times each season.
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Cyniclone
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RE: Men's Basketball Scheduling, Conference RPI, etc.
(01-06-2016 01:40 PM)SpaceRaider Wrote: (01-06-2016 01:31 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: Bridgestone is hosting an NCAA subregional in 2018: http://www.bridgestonearena.com/news/det...tournament
Not sure if that precludes them from hosting a conference tournament the week before.
Not sure why that would even be a consideration. Hell Bridgestone is extremely busy all the time and they seem to be able to handle any challenges. Last month MT and Auburn played a basketball game starting at noon that went to OT and then that evening the Nashville Predators played an Ice Hockey game with the Colorado Avalanche. Can't see that a couple tournaments a week or two weeks apart would be a problem. It might be a problem somewhere else that it is not used to it, but not Nashville or Bridgestone.
It wouldn't be a problem if it were in a non-pro city, but tournaments in consecutive weeks would require the Preds take a pretty lengthy March road trip. Plus they're tournaments, so there's going to be a lot more setup/breakdown than there would be for a single game.
Maybe it's not a big deal, but I suspect it's more than coincidence that the one gap between now and 2022 happens to also be the year that they're hosting a subregional.
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RE: Men's Basketball Scheduling, Conference RPI, etc.
(01-04-2016 04:09 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: Radical thought that has no chance of coming to life, but what the hell, it's the Internet:
Forget the tournament (a drum I've been beating for a while now). There's no way to get a good crowd in a league with this wide a footprint unless the host team is playing. Instead, split the regular-season into two parts.
First part: Everyone plays everyone else once. 13 games.
Second part: Split the conference into a top seven and a bottom seven. Everyone in those groups plays each other once. 6 games.
Top team in the top group is the conference champion and gets the automatic NCAA bid. Everyone in the top group should get an RPI boost, which would give a boost to an at-large contender.
I like your recommendation. As long as CUSA continues to have so many bad basketball programs, CUSA must figure out a way to minimize their negative impact on the top performers.
At a MINIMUM, CUSA should adopt the "Top 8 Only" conference tournament philosophy that some mentioned here.
(This post was last modified: 01-06-2016 09:05 PM by HogDawg.)
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