Sometimes the "crowd" is correct. The reason there was that "talk to your kids about an undefeated Iowa" meme going around was that most thought Iowa was a Paper Tiger, a lucky team winning close games against a soft schedule, like FSU last year.

And like FSU last year, the critics were proven correct, as a powerful PAC team exposed and humiliated them in the Rose Bowl.

It's pretty clear that going forward, the CFP committee should pay a LOT more attention to SOS. Stanford should have been in the playoffs, not Michigan State.

(01-02-2016 08:41 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sometimes the "crowd" is correct. The reason there was that "talk to your kids about an undefeated Iowa" meme going around was that most thought Iowa was a Paper Tiger, a lucky team winning close games against a soft schedule, like FSU last year.

And like FSU last year, the critics were proven correct, as a powerful PAC team exposed and humiliated them in the Rose Bowl.

It's pretty clear that going forward, the CFP committee should pay a LOT more attention to SOS. Stanford should have been in the playoffs, not Michigan State.

Maybe if the records were the same, but having two losses hurt the Cardinal when compared to Sparty.

(01-02-2016 09:24 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 08:41 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sometimes the "crowd" is correct. The reason there was that "talk to your kids about an undefeated Iowa" meme going around was that most thought Iowa was a Paper Tiger, a lucky team winning close games against a soft schedule, like FSU last year.

And like FSU last year, the critics were proven correct, as a powerful PAC team exposed and humiliated them in the Rose Bowl.

It's pretty clear that going forward, the CFP committee should pay a LOT more attention to SOS. Stanford should have been in the playoffs, not Michigan State.

Maybe if the records were the same, but having two losses hurt the Cardinal when compared to Sparty.

... which is why I said the committee should pay more attention to SOS, not losses. It's easy to have few losses if you play a soft schedule.

Stanford's 2 losses were to Oregon and Northwestern.

Mich St beat Oregon.
Iowa blew out Northwestern 40-10.

Iowa didn't have to play any of the good teams in the B1G East during the regular season. Their best win was Northwestern.

Nebraska out gained Iowa by a lot of yards in their game against Iowa. Turned the ball over 4 times is why Iowa got that win. If Nebraska hadn't turned the ball over, then Ohio State would have gone to the Rose Bowl instead and would have made a much better game against Stanford.

(01-02-2016 09:28 AM)goofus Wrote:  Stanford's 2 losses were to Oregon and Northwestern.

Mich St beat Oregon.
Iowa blew out Northwestern 40-10.

Which goes to show that kind of analysis is pretty sterile. Stanford played a much tougher schedule than MSU and Iowa.

The B1G obviously didn't belong in the playoffs. Turrible performance by their top teams.

(01-02-2016 09:29 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:28 AM)goofus Wrote:  Stanford's 2 losses were to Oregon and Northwestern.

Mich St beat Oregon.
Iowa blew out Northwestern 40-10.

Which goes to show that kind of analysis is pretty sterile. Stanford played a much tougher schedule than MSU and Iowa.

The B1G obviously didn't belong in the playoffs. Turrible performance by their top teams.

Yet if Stanford beats NW, they would be in the playoffs.

(01-02-2016 09:29 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:28 AM)goofus Wrote:  Stanford's 2 losses were to Oregon and Northwestern.

Mich St beat Oregon.
Iowa blew out Northwestern 40-10.

Which goes to show that kind of analysis is pretty sterile. Stanford played a much tougher schedule than MSU and Iowa.

The B1G obviously didn't belong in the playoffs. Turrible performance by their top teams.

Of course it did - Ohio State would've beat Alabama ... again.

It was bad luck that Iowa and Mich St were the B1G's major bowl reps this year. Ohio St id our only nationally competitive program.

(01-02-2016 10:26 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:29 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:28 AM)goofus Wrote:  Stanford's 2 losses were to Oregon and Northwestern.

Mich St beat Oregon.
Iowa blew out Northwestern 40-10.

Which goes to show that kind of analysis is pretty sterile. Stanford played a much tougher schedule than MSU and Iowa.

The B1G obviously didn't belong in the playoffs. Turrible performance by their top teams.

Of course it did - Ohio State would've beat Alabama ... again.

It was bad luck that Iowa and Mich St were the B1G's major bowl reps this year. Ohio St id our only nationally competitive program.

Lol. Slowhio state only beat bama by one touchdown last year. This year they got beat by an average michigan state. Lucky for you that bama wont crush slowhio state this year. Thed whole big ten might just shut down or your commish might get liquored up and act even more idiotic

2014 FSU defeated three teams that finished ranked -- #15 Clemson, #24 Louisville, #7 Georgia Tech.
2015 Iowa defeated Northwestern who might finished ranked.

(01-02-2016 09:28 AM)goofus Wrote:  Yet if Stanford beats NW, they would be in the playoffs.

... or if Stanford had played FCS Northwestern State (Louisiana) instead of starting the season with a road game at Northwestern, they would have been in the playoffs.

Anyway, as a sportswriter pointed out yesterday, the Rose Bowl looked like one of those Rose Bowl games when Pete Carroll was at USC, and they had a bad loss that knocked them out of the BCS title game, and then crushed whomever was unlucky enough to play them in the Rose Bowl.

(01-02-2016 10:43 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 10:26 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:29 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:28 AM)goofus Wrote:  Stanford's 2 losses were to Oregon and Northwestern.

Mich St beat Oregon.
Iowa blew out Northwestern 40-10.

Which goes to show that kind of analysis is pretty sterile. Stanford played a much tougher schedule than MSU and Iowa.

The B1G obviously didn't belong in the playoffs. Turrible performance by their top teams.

Of course it did - Ohio State would've beat Alabama ... again.

It was bad luck that Iowa and Mich St were the B1G's major bowl reps this year. Ohio St id our only nationally competitive program.

Lol. Slowhio state only beat bama by one touchdown last year. This year they got beat by an average michigan state. Lucky for you that bama wont crush slowhio state this year. Thed whole big ten might just shut down or your commish might get liquored up and act even more idiotic

Ohio State has according to the NFL Scouts including the player many consider the best Pro Prospect this year in Joey Bosa...the most NFL Players on their roster in College Football...they ain't slow...

(01-02-2016 02:48 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 10:43 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 10:26 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:29 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:28 AM)goofus Wrote:  Stanford's 2 losses were to Oregon and Northwestern.

Mich St beat Oregon.
Iowa blew out Northwestern 40-10.

Which goes to show that kind of analysis is pretty sterile. Stanford played a much tougher schedule than MSU and Iowa.

The B1G obviously didn't belong in the playoffs. Turrible performance by their top teams.

Of course it did - Ohio State would've beat Alabama ... again.

It was bad luck that Iowa and Mich St were the B1G's major bowl reps this year. Ohio St id our only nationally competitive program.

Lol. Slowhio state only beat bama by one touchdown last year. This year they got beat by an average michigan state. Lucky for you that bama wont crush slowhio state this year. Thed whole big ten might just shut down or your commish might get liquored up and act even more idiotic

Ohio State has according to the NFL Scouts including the player many consider the best Pro Prospect this year in Joey Bosa...the most NFL Players on their roster in College Football...they ain't slow...

And almost lost to NIU =P

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The Committee should definitely have been able to correct for Iowa's schedule. They should have been down with Florida.

(01-02-2016 02:52 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 02:48 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 10:43 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 10:26 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:29 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Which goes to show that kind of analysis is pretty sterile. Stanford played a much tougher schedule than MSU and Iowa.

The B1G obviously didn't belong in the playoffs. Turrible performance by their top teams.

Of course it did - Ohio State would've beat Alabama ... again.

It was bad luck that Iowa and Mich St were the B1G's major bowl reps this year. Ohio St id our only nationally competitive program.

Lol. Slowhio state only beat bama by one touchdown last year. This year they got beat by an average michigan state. Lucky for you that bama wont crush slowhio state this year. Thed whole big ten might just shut down or your commish might get liquored up and act even more idiotic

Ohio State has according to the NFL Scouts including the player many consider the best Pro Prospect this year in Joey Bosa...the most NFL Players on their roster in College Football...they ain't slow...

And almost lost to NIU =P

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For them the QB Rotation killed them in the end and they got bored...wasted way too much talent...plus they missed Herman...much like Meyer missed Mullens at Florida when he left for Mississippi State.

The comparison to FSU notwithstanding, Iowa was Iowa. They played tough, smack-you-in-the-mouth football and came out ahead in all of their close regular season games. They may have been exposed as not being an elite team worthy of a top 10 ranking, but they are a solid football team that should be commended for an outstanding season.

(01-02-2016 10:26 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:29 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 09:28 AM)goofus Wrote:  Stanford's 2 losses were to Oregon and Northwestern.

Mich St beat Oregon.
Iowa blew out Northwestern 40-10.

Which goes to show that kind of analysis is pretty sterile. Stanford played a much tougher schedule than MSU and Iowa.

The B1G obviously didn't belong in the playoffs. Turrible performance by their top teams.

Of course it did - Ohio State would've beat Alabama ... again.

It was bad luck that Iowa and Mich St were the B1G's major bowl reps this year. Ohio St id our only nationally competitive program.

Not so sure. Ohio State struggled to put away a Notre Dame team fielding a practice squad defense.

(01-02-2016 02:59 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  The comparison to FSU notwithstanding, Iowa was Iowa. They played tough, smack-you-in-the-mouth football and came out ahead in all of their close regular season games. They may have been exposed as not being an elite team worthy of a top 10 ranking, but they are a solid football team that should be commended for an outstanding season.

I agree with all of that. By 'exposed' i meant only that they didn't deserve to be in the top 10. But they still were a very good team.

(01-02-2016 11:19 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 02:59 PM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  The comparison to FSU notwithstanding, Iowa was Iowa. They played tough, smack-you-in-the-mouth football and came out ahead in all of their close regular season games. They may have been exposed as not being an elite team worthy of a top 10 ranking, but they are a solid football team that should be commended for an outstanding season.

I agree with all of that. By 'exposed' i meant only that they didn't deserve to be in the top 10. But they still were a very good team.

Fair enough. If Iowa and Ohio St had just played this season, it probably would have sortred a lot of things out before the bowls. But Iowa's schedule was not terrible and starting 12-0 is not easy. After all Iowa played basically the same schedule in 2014 and finished 7-6. Even against average teams, you have to be good to start 12-0. they were a good top 20 team this year but not top 5. fine.

Fortunately the problems with the Big10 schedule will be fixed next year with 9 conference games and parity schefuling. Iowa will play Mich and PSU in 2016. And 2017, they will play OSU, MSU and PSU.

Iowa will probably go back to 8-4 next year. Maybe 9-3. I guess they could go 12-0 again they will need to get better.

Iowa had an excellent season and one game isn't gonna sway how I viewed them this season though with that said it does seem pretty telling that Sparty was wasted by Alabama in addition to Iowa's big loss. Ohio State won but I was never convinced they were a great team so perhaps when we look at it in full, we can see that the B1G was overrated.

But like I said, Iowa had a great year and it was only one game.