(01-02-2016 06:11 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 04:35 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 04:14 PM)niu79 Wrote:  A good mid major conference will place more than one team in the tourney more than once in the last 20 years. Also, a good mid major conference will have at least one team that is more than capable of winning a tournament game. Other than Ohio, no MAC team in the last decade has even won a tournament game, or even been competitive

Not much you can do if you are not given the opportunity if you are the MAC. Those bids are handed out for non-performance based reasons, so you are pretty much handicapped in that respect if you are a MAC team.

What exactly does non-performance based reasons mean?

For example, the thinking that, its the Big 10 there has to be a minimum of 6 teams because its the Big 10. Team number 6 usually doesn't deserve it , but because there is that thinking going in, you get non-performance based measures.

(01-02-2016 06:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 06:11 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 04:35 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 04:14 PM)niu79 Wrote:  A good mid major conference will place more than one team in the tourney more than once in the last 20 years. Also, a good mid major conference will have at least one team that is more than capable of winning a tournament game. Other than Ohio, no MAC team in the last decade has even won a tournament game, or even been competitive

Not much you can do if you are not given the opportunity if you are the MAC. Those bids are handed out for non-performance based reasons, so you are pretty much handicapped in that respect if you are a MAC team.

What exactly does non-performance based reasons mean?

For example, the thinking that, its the Big 10 there has to be a minimum of 6 teams because its the Big 10. Team number 6 usually doesn't deserve it , but because there is that thinking going in, you get non-performance based measures.

That may be true, but do you really believe the MAC, with the bad OOC schedules and weak conference deserves that bid over another league? I think the MAC is doomed to be a 1 bid league for a long time, if not forever.

(01-02-2016 07:04 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 06:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 06:11 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 04:35 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 04:14 PM)niu79 Wrote:  A good mid major conference will place more than one team in the tourney more than once in the last 20 years. Also, a good mid major conference will have at least one team that is more than capable of winning a tournament game. Other than Ohio, no MAC team in the last decade has even won a tournament game, or even been competitive

Not much you can do if you are not given the opportunity if you are the MAC. Those bids are handed out for non-performance based reasons, so you are pretty much handicapped in that respect if you are a MAC team.

What exactly does non-performance based reasons mean?

For example, the thinking that, its the Big 10 there has to be a minimum of 6 teams because its the Big 10. Team number 6 usually doesn't deserve it , but because there is that thinking going in, you get non-performance based measures.

That may be true, but do you really believe the MAC, with the bad OOC schedules and weak conference deserves that bid over another league? I think the MAC is doomed to be a 1 bid league for a long time, if not forever.

I agree but not because it does not deserve it, just because of that mindset that the MAC is a one-bid league without even looking deeper each year IF the conference actually does deserve it.

(01-02-2016 07:04 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 06:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 06:11 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 04:35 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 04:14 PM)niu79 Wrote:  A good mid major conference will place more than one team in the tourney more than once in the last 20 years. Also, a good mid major conference will have at least one team that is more than capable of winning a tournament game. Other than Ohio, no MAC team in the last decade has even won a tournament game, or even been competitive

Not much you can do if you are not given the opportunity if you are the MAC. Those bids are handed out for non-performance based reasons, so you are pretty much handicapped in that respect if you are a MAC team.

What exactly does non-performance based reasons mean?

For example, the thinking that, its the Big 10 there has to be a minimum of 6 teams because its the Big 10. Team number 6 usually doesn't deserve it , but because there is that thinking going in, you get non-performance based measures.

That may be true, but do you really believe the MAC, with the bad OOC schedules and weak conference deserves that bid over another league? I think the MAC is doomed to be a 1 bid league for a long time, if not forever.

The MAC didnt beat anyone good this year, hence one bid once again. There is literally not one team you can point to and say solid win for the resume.

(01-02-2016 10:35 AM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 02:37 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  That is the current RPI you are seeing, the ones I posted from the site are the end of year projections once the season is complete, which is the more accurate measure.

WTF? How the hell can a "projection" be more accurate than a continually updated ranking?

No longer a projection, the MAC in the current RPI is now 10th in the country!

(01-04-2016 02:58 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 10:35 AM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 02:37 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  That is the current RPI you are seeing, the ones I posted from the site are the end of year projections once the season is complete, which is the more accurate measure.

WTF? How the hell can a "projection" be more accurate than a continually updated ranking?

No longer a projection, the MAC in the current RPI is now 10th in the country!

So now you're reversing your position? An updated ranking is better than a projection? Then why would you make your first post?
Answer: because you are so incredibly biased for the MAC that you refuse to accept all evidence to the contrary.
Seriously MD, you've talked about how difficult it is to win road games in the MAC because you think the level of play is so even, yet you refuse to believe that same standard when it comes to other leagues. If it's just as hard -- and in reality harder -- to get wins during the season-long grind in the Big 12, ACC, B1G, etc., then why shouldn't those conferences be deserving of more bids. Pretend you're a fan of a middle level team in any other conference and try to project wins for that school and see how far off you are.
You claim there's a mindset that "gives" the B1G six teams not because the sixth team is deserving, but simply because. That's such b.s. Michigan State ranked #1, Maryland #4, Purdue #14, Northwestern and Iowa among others receiving votes means a team like Indiana has to play those five home and away. I don't even like the Hoosiers but they started with two conference road wins playing without one of their top players, so if they're the sixth team, they're not deserving after playing a schedule like that? Strength of schedule is more of a determining factor than "mindset." From the Big XII, Kansas #2, Oklahoma #3, Iowa State #11, West Virginia #19, Baylor #23, and yet you're going to say a K-State, OK State, Texas Tech being that league's sixth team hasn't done enough to deserve a spot ahead of the runner-up squad from most mid-major leagues?
Come NCAA tourney time, please point out which major conference's lowest entry could not have beaten Chicago State, UIC, Idaho, FIU, Eureka, Indiana Northwest, Roosevelt and Judson.
Said it before and will say it again, your passion, loyalty and support of Huskie teams are impossible to match, but any degree of rationale thinking is non-existent.

(01-02-2016 06:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 06:11 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 04:35 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(01-02-2016 04:14 PM)niu79 Wrote:  A good mid major conference will place more than one team in the tourney more than once in the last 20 years. Also, a good mid major conference will have at least one team that is more than capable of winning a tournament game. Other than Ohio, no MAC team in the last decade has even won a tournament game, or even been competitive

Not much you can do if you are not given the opportunity if you are the MAC. Those bids are handed out for non-performance based reasons, so you are pretty much handicapped in that respect if you are a MAC team.

What exactly does non-performance based reasons mean?

For example, the thinking that, its the Big 10 there has to be a minimum of 6 teams because its the Big 10. Team number 6 usually doesn't deserve it , but because there is that thinking going in, you get non-performance based measures.

Big Ten #6 is always better than MAC #2.