(01-01-2016 07:02 PM)omniorange Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 04:45 PM)Wedge Wrote:  This is 100% about the arrogance of the CFP, the bowls, and the commissioners, thinking they could put the playoff games on NYE and get the same ratings they got on NYD.

I predicted here that they would lose 25% of the audience they had for the playoff games last year. They lost even more.

You'd think that losing a third of your audience would be a wake-up call, but these guys will get paid by ESPN for 10 more years even if they leave the games on NYE every year, so they have no monetary incentive to switch, and they are so full of themselves that they think eventually everyone will bow down to them and watch the games no matter when they are played.

That fixes this year's problem, but Hokie Mark is correct in terms of the long-term issue. It's the Rose and Sugar trying to control everything that prevented the sensible thing from happening in most years when January 1st is not on a Friday.

Cheers,
Neil

Even with the Rose and Sugar squatting on NYD, there are better options than holding the semifinals on NYE when it's a weekday.

This season the best option was Saturday, Jan. 2.

For next season (2016 season), the best option will be playing two afternoon games on Dec. 31 because it's a Saturday. Will the CFP get it right and set the semifinal games for 12:30 and 4:30 pm ET, or will they roll the dice with another 8 pm ET game?

2017 is Rose and Sugar on NYD again.

2018 NYE is a Monday and they're going to make the same mistake they did this year. But the better option for the semifinal games that year is Saturday, December 29, when there are no NFL games (just like Saturday, January 2 this season).

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CFP semis (Cotton/Orange) rank as lowest rated bowls with champ. implications since start of Bowl Coalition in '92:

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2016/01/...iewership/

8:49 PM - 1 Jan 2016

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/ratings-college...15221.html

Exceprt:

The college football playoffs on ESPN will no doubt be making a resolution to improve their ratings.

Both the Orange Bowl and the Cotton Bowl were down by double digits from last season’s college football semifinals while airing on New Years Eve . The Orange Bowl, which saw Clemson take on Oklahoma, drew a 9.7 rating in the advertiser coveted adults 18-49 demographic. Last year’s comparable semifinal game, which aired on Jan. 1, scored a 15.3, meaning it dropped almost 38 percent.

The Cotton Bowl between Michigan State and Alabama was similarly down. This year’s game netted a 9.9 rating, while last year’s comparable semifinal game got a 15.5. That is a drop of 36 percent. Last year’s game also aired on Jan. 1.

More......

The FBS conference commissioners who put together the College Football Playoff in 2012 said they wanted to create a new tradition by playing the semifinals on New Year's Eve twice every three years over the course of a 12-year contract with ESPN. This is year two of that deal.

ESPN was on board as long as it owned the rights to all the games, though the network did suggest moving this season's games off Dec. 31 to Jan. 2, an open Saturday with no NFL conflicts. But playoff officials said they wanted to change the paradigm of New Year's Eve and did not want to push off getting fans acclimated to their new, if unpopular, idea.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tv-ratings...--spt.html

Poor Bama and SEC fans unable to brag about TV ratings this playoff.

The title game is going to have lower ratings than last year too.

It is not fun to watch one team curb-stomp another team...Unless you happen to be a fan of the team doing the curb-stomping.

It probably has to do with the schools involved in the games. Clemson, Michigan State, and Oklahoma in 2015 or Ohio State, Oregon, and Florida State in 2014. Add to that 2014 was the first year of the playoff and everyone wanted to watch it because they hated the BCS.

I might have watched 30 mins of the entire bowl season, if that.

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Peach Bowl ratings were up 21% over last year. Same day, same time slot.

I don't get the time slots for the playoff games or why they have to be on the same day. They could play both on the 30th or 1 prime time on the 30th and the other prime time on the 29 or prime after the rose bowl on the 1st. Also, i don't even think its a bad idea for the rose and sugar bowl to be permanent host to the playoff games on new years day. Than rotate the title game between phoenix, dallas, atlanta and miami.

(01-02-2016 11:20 AM)bluesox Wrote:  I don't get the time slots for the playoff games or why they have to be on the same day. They could play both on the 30th or 1 prime time on the 30th and the other prime time on the 29 or prime after the rose bowl on the 1st. Also, i don't even think its a bad idea for the rose and sugar bowl to be permanent host to the playoff games on new years day. Than rotate the title game between phoenix, dallas, atlanta and miami.

It's a competitive advantage to get the extra day of rest. It's always going to be the same day.

Well that and neither game was competitive for longer than the first half.

(01-02-2016 02:33 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

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CFP semis (Cotton/Orange) rank as lowest rated bowls with champ. implications since start of Bowl Coalition in '92:

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2016/01/...iewership/

8:49 PM - 1 Jan 2016

I'm a huge college football fan but only caught the tail end of Bama vs MSU. I followed the games via gamecast. It was a workday and the one holiday that isn't celebrated at home. What did they expect?

Putting them back-to-back didn't help.

My friends in the northeast tell me nobody gives a sheet about these games

(01-01-2016 05:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Going on NYE makes a big difference in the numbers.

That said, they need a system that is more inclusive. The best system is going to be an 8 team playoff that includes all 5 P5 champs, the top G5 champ, and 2 wildcards. If you want people to watch---then let playoff occur on the field, not in a smokey back room with an inconsistent and flighty selection committee. You need to have as many fan bases invested in the playoff as possible.

Just stop... you had 4 separate conferences involved. That's that.The games were awful. The NYE idea is awful.

But let's put things into perspective. Thursday the 31st is the absolute worse day to host the games, because people are definitely traveling early that day. They will miss the 1st game in large part, and the second game once they go out by halftime. This was a case where they shuld have moved the games the following Saturday. **** ESPN for not making a power play.

(01-02-2016 01:11 PM)constance Wrote:  My friends in the northeast tell me nobody gives a sheet about these games

Northeast is more about pro football than College. Its always been that way.

I'm not shocked Bama/MSU had low ratings. I know several people were convinced that game would still draw good numbers, but it was a matchup between two very good defenses on a night when almost everyone is out of the house. It was destined to draw poorly.

Not to mention that ESPN's attempt to advertise these semifinals was awful.

(01-02-2016 02:30 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 05:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Going on NYE makes a big difference in the numbers.

That said, they need a system that is more inclusive. The best system is going to be an 8 team playoff that includes all 5 P5 champs, the top G5 champ, and 2 wildcards. If you want people to watch---then let playoff occur on the field, not in a smokey back room with an inconsistent and flighty selection committee. You need to have as many fan bases invested in the playoff as possible.

Just stop... you had 4 separate conferences involved. That's that.The games were awful. The NYE idea is awful.

But let's put things into perspective. Thursday the 31st is the absolute worse day to host the games, because people are definitely traveling early that day. They will miss the 1st game in large part, and the second game once they go out by halftime. This was a case where they shuld have moved the games the following Saturday. **** ESPN for not making a power play.

ESPN wanted to play on Saturday. League Commisioners and the Playoff committee overruled them. The concept was they wanted to create a day of games that were all to themselves, with little competition elsewhere. It didn't work

When something is clearly not working, you need a change. And I don't think an extra day of rest is that big an advantage anyhow. It's not like the first winning team knows who they are playing and starts watching film the next day. You get at least a week to prepare every year. No big deal.

5:00pm ET on NYE, 1:00pm ET on NYD. Game set match. This is clearly the best way to do it. Then spread out these other games. Play some crappy bowls on the 12:30 and 8:00pm NYE slots or none at all. This gives you 2 BCS bowls to drop between NYD and the championship game in prime time, like we had it before. This is common sense.

(01-02-2016 02:30 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 05:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Going on NYE makes a big difference in the numbers.

That said, they need a system that is more inclusive. The best system is going to be an 8 team playoff that includes all 5 P5 champs, the top G5 champ, and 2 wildcards. If you want people to watch---then let playoff occur on the field, not in a smokey back room with an inconsistent and flighty selection committee. You need to have as many fan bases invested in the playoff as possible.

Just stop... you had 4 separate conferences involved. That's that.The games were awful. The NYE idea is awful.

But let's put things into perspective. Thursday the 31st is the absolute worse day to host the games, because people are definitely traveling early that day. They will miss the 1st game in large part, and the second game once they go out by halftime. This was a case where they shuld have moved the games the following Saturday. **** ESPN for not making a power play.

I think there was an NFL game on the same night as well. Ever since NFL started Thursday Night football, it hurt the college football a bit.,