Any guesses? The media is already slobbering all over themselves to make him Saban's successor, but I don't think money will be a factor of he does leave. Clemson can pay competitively and competing for national titles is obviously possible. Infrastructure and administrative support at Clemson is better than ever and recruiting is booming. Given his "sweat equity" in Clemson, he may choose to stay. He's created a culture that you can't create at Bama because another culture already exists. If he does leave for Bama one day, I can't imagine Clemson would have much difficulty filling the position.

On a related note, I think the $3.3M is not including incentives, so his actual compensation this year will be substantially higher.

$1 to $1.5 million dollar raise.

Since he signed an extension in Jan. '14 I doubt there is a new contract, but by winning the ACC this year he automatically increased his base salary to $3.5 million a year.

And if my math is correct so far he's earned an additional $950k in bonuses for winning the Atlantic, ACC, getting to a semi-final, and getting to the championship game.

He can still earn a $75k bonus for the team having an APR higher than 950, and a $50k bonus if he wins AFCA Coach of the Year.

I'm sure he will do well.

What will be interesting is who does Bama go after when Saban walks away in 3-5 years? Because they are going to throw $$$$$ at whomever they want.

I don't think Swinney cares about being in the upper echelon of paid coaches. He wants to make sure his staff is well compensated. As Kap said, he has a very good bonus structure. That alone will put him in the 4 mil range anyway.

That culture thing could keep Swinney at Clemson indefinitely. Alabama will NEVER have a pro-religion culture like Clemson has.

(01-01-2016 12:24 PM)nole Wrote:  I'm sure he will do well.

What will be interesting is who does Bama go after when Saban walks away in 3-5 years? Because they are going to throw $$$$$ at whomever they want.

I don't get the feeling that money is a driving factor with Swinney, but Clemson will pay him very well. Bama and Texas can pay more than anyone, but there is a point of diminishing returns. If you double my salary, it will change my life. If you double a $3.5M salary, the change is not near as drastic.

Other factor is that Saban's successor is certain to fail. Swinney might wait to be the next guy after the successor fails.

When Dabo signed the extension in Jan 14 it was an eight year extension. Why eight years? That's when his youngest son graduates high school. IMO that's fairly significant. Remember that unlike most coaches Dabo hasn't done a lot of jumping around from job to job and town to town so his family isn't used to it like some coaching families are.

(01-01-2016 12:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  When Dabo signed the extension in Jan 14 it was an eight year extension. Why eight years? That's when his youngest son graduates high school. IMO that's fairly significant. Remember that unlike most coaches Dabo hasn't done a lot of jumping around from job to job and town to town so his family isn't used to it like some coaching families are.

He made an earlier comment about how he almost jumped to Bama 3 times. One time, he turned it down because it was too close to signing day. He's definitely more family oriented than most coaches. Another eight years would put him in his early 50s, 15 years as HC at Clemson and over 20 years total at Clemson. The roots might be too deep to move at that point. We'll see.

At his current pace, there's no reason why he can't do at Clemson what he could do at Bama.

always kind of weird when people discuss another person's salary. seems nosy to me.

(01-01-2016 12:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  When Dabo signed the extension in Jan 14 it was an eight year extension. Why eight years? That's when his youngest son graduates high school. IMO that's fairly significant. Remember that unlike most coaches Dabo hasn't done a lot of jumping around from job to job and town to town so his family isn't used to it like some coaching families are.

On another note, Lawson is going to the NFL. Kearse and Mac are likely to join him. Bryant and Yeargin should fill in for Lawson. Baker and Fields should take Mac's place. Jadar Johnson should take over for Kearse with Van Smith being in the mix. The offense will be loaded. Could Clemson. Be the preseason ACC favorite for 2016? I know FSU will be loaded as well, but they need an upgrade at QB. Dalvin Cook and Derwin James are enough to contend for the ACC, so the Clemson - FSU game should be a barn burner next year. I LOVE what that rivalry has become the past few years.

Lamar Jackson will be a major headache for Clemson, FSU and the rest of the ACC. Can't forget about him.

As for the Coastal, new coaches at UVa, VT and Miami should give that division a shot in the arm.

Clemson will be preseason #1.

(01-01-2016 01:44 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 12:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  When Dabo signed the extension in Jan 14 it was an eight year extension. Why eight years? That's when his youngest son graduates high school. IMO that's fairly significant. Remember that unlike most coaches Dabo hasn't done a lot of jumping around from job to job and town to town so his family isn't used to it like some coaching families are.

On another note, Lawson is going to the NFL. Kearse and Mac are likely to join him. Bryant and Yeargin should fill in for Lawson. Baker and Fields should take Mac's place. Jadar Johnson should take over for Kearse with Van Smith being in the mix. The offense will be loaded. Could Clemson. Be the preseason ACC favorite for 2016? I know FSU will be loaded as well, but they need an upgrade at QB. Dalvin Cook and Derwin James are enough to contend for the ACC, so the Clemson - FSU game should be a barn burner next year. I LOVE what that rivalry has become the past few years.

Lamar Jackson will be a major headache for Clemson, FSU and the rest of the ACC. Can't forget about him.

As for the Coastal, new coaches at UVa, VT and Miami should give that division a shot in the arm.

Dabo was praising Chris Register and Dane Rogers during the "JV" practices early in bowl prep. He was doing the same thing for Tankersley last year and we see what Tank has done this year. Plus Sterling Johnson and Clelin Ferrell come off redshirts. We might not have the star power we have enjoyed the past three years with Vic and Shaq but the DE position might be deeper than it's ever been.

At CB it's going to be interesting to see how it shakes out. Both Baker and Carter have played a good bit this year and had both good and bad moments. Fields has played but not as much. Kaleb Chalmers,Denzel Johnson and Amir Trapp come off redshirts. I'm really interested to see what Johnson can do since the staff seemingly wanted him bad enough to hold a spot until he qualified. Trapp is undersized but fast as greased lightning. I saw Chalmers play in HS and he can go. Played both ways and could have made a lot of FBS teams as a WR, so he's got ball skills. He also isn't afraid to get physical.

As for replacing Kearse, IMO Jadar is the leader at this point, but I like what I have seen from Van Smith. It's going to be interesting to see where Tanner Muse ends up. He's already comparable to Jayron size-wise (Kearse is 6'5" 200, Muse is 6'2" 230) but I honestly envision him moving into the same NB/SLB role Travis Blanks has filled if he doesn't grow into a MLB/WLB. Jeffrie Gibson is in the mix as well. He's just a RSFR this year.

(01-01-2016 02:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 01:44 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 12:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  When Dabo signed the extension in Jan 14 it was an eight year extension. Why eight years? That's when his youngest son graduates high school. IMO that's fairly significant. Remember that unlike most coaches Dabo hasn't done a lot of jumping around from job to job and town to town so his family isn't used to it like some coaching families are.

On another note, Lawson is going to the NFL. Kearse and Mac are likely to join him. Bryant and Yeargin should fill in for Lawson. Baker and Fields should take Mac's place. Jadar Johnson should take over for Kearse with Van Smith being in the mix. The offense will be loaded. Could Clemson. Be the preseason ACC favorite for 2016? I know FSU will be loaded as well, but they need an upgrade at QB. Dalvin Cook and Derwin James are enough to contend for the ACC, so the Clemson - FSU game should be a barn burner next year. I LOVE what that rivalry has become the past few years.

Lamar Jackson will be a major headache for Clemson, FSU and the rest of the ACC. Can't forget about him.

As for the Coastal, new coaches at UVa, VT and Miami should give that division a shot in the arm.

Dabo was praising Chris Register and Dane Rogers during the "JV" practices early in bowl prep. He was doing the same thing for Tankersley last year and we see what Tank has done this year. Plus Sterling Johnson and Clelin Ferrell come off redshirts. We might not have the star power we have enjoyed the past three years with Vic and Shaq but the DE position might be deeper than it's ever been.

At CB it's going to be interesting to see how it shakes out. Both Baker and Carter have played a good bit this year and had both good and bad moments. Fields has played but not as much. Kaleb Chalmers,Denzel Johnson and Amir Trapp come off redshirts. I'm really interested to see what Johnson can do since the staff seemingly wanted him bad enough to hold a spot until he qualified. Trapp is undersized but fast as greased lightning. I saw Chalmers play in HS and he can go. Played both ways and could have made a lot of FBS teams as a WR, so he's got ball skills. He also isn't afraid to get physical.

As for replacing Kearse, IMO Jadar is the leader at this point, but I like what I have seen from Van Smith. It's going to be interesting to see where Tanner Muse ends up. He's already comparable to Jayron size-wise (Kearse is 6'5" 200, Muse is 6'2" 230) but I honestly envision him moving into the same NB/SLB role Travis Blanks has filled if he doesn't grow into a MLB/WLB. Jeffrie Gibson is in the mix as well. He's just a RSFR this year.

Forgot about Gibson! He's going to be a good one. I'm a little concerned about depth at Mike and Will LBs. Boulware and Joseph will be starters, but I'm concerned about 2nd string. Jalen Williams is only 5-9 and 225, which is a little small. Chad Smith and maybe even Tanner Muse could be the answer there depending on what position Muse plays.

(01-01-2016 03:59 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 02:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 01:44 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 12:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  When Dabo signed the extension in Jan 14 it was an eight year extension. Why eight years? That's when his youngest son graduates high school. IMO that's fairly significant. Remember that unlike most coaches Dabo hasn't done a lot of jumping around from job to job and town to town so his family isn't used to it like some coaching families are.

On another note, Lawson is going to the NFL. Kearse and Mac are likely to join him. Bryant and Yeargin should fill in for Lawson. Baker and Fields should take Mac's place. Jadar Johnson should take over for Kearse with Van Smith being in the mix. The offense will be loaded. Could Clemson. Be the preseason ACC favorite for 2016? I know FSU will be loaded as well, but they need an upgrade at QB. Dalvin Cook and Derwin James are enough to contend for the ACC, so the Clemson - FSU game should be a barn burner next year. I LOVE what that rivalry has become the past few years.

Lamar Jackson will be a major headache for Clemson, FSU and the rest of the ACC. Can't forget about him.

As for the Coastal, new coaches at UVa, VT and Miami should give that division a shot in the arm.

Dabo was praising Chris Register and Dane Rogers during the "JV" practices early in bowl prep. He was doing the same thing for Tankersley last year and we see what Tank has done this year. Plus Sterling Johnson and Clelin Ferrell come off redshirts. We might not have the star power we have enjoyed the past three years with Vic and Shaq but the DE position might be deeper than it's ever been.

At CB it's going to be interesting to see how it shakes out. Both Baker and Carter have played a good bit this year and had both good and bad moments. Fields has played but not as much. Kaleb Chalmers,Denzel Johnson and Amir Trapp come off redshirts. I'm really interested to see what Johnson can do since the staff seemingly wanted him bad enough to hold a spot until he qualified. Trapp is undersized but fast as greased lightning. I saw Chalmers play in HS and he can go. Played both ways and could have made a lot of FBS teams as a WR, so he's got ball skills. He also isn't afraid to get physical.

As for replacing Kearse, IMO Jadar is the leader at this point, but I like what I have seen from Van Smith. It's going to be interesting to see where Tanner Muse ends up. He's already comparable to Jayron size-wise (Kearse is 6'5" 200, Muse is 6'2" 230) but I honestly envision him moving into the same NB/SLB role Travis Blanks has filled if he doesn't grow into a MLB/WLB. Jeffrie Gibson is in the mix as well. He's just a RSFR this year.

Forgot about Gibson! He's going to be a good one. I'm a little concerned about depth at Mike and Will LBs. Boulware and Joseph will be starters, but I'm concerned about 2nd string. Jalen Williams is only 5-9 and 225, which is a little small. Chad Smith and maybe even Tanner Muse could be the answer there depending on what position Muse plays.

Yeah but remember that Williams only played this year because we were so thin, but while there were times he got overpowered he made some good plays as well. He's only going to get bigger and stronger. Venables wanted him for a reason.

Can't forget Tre Lamer is coming in with this class. 6'4" 240lbs already.

One thing I would look at if I were on the staff is moving Tyshon Dye to LB. He played it in high school and it might be the only way he sees the field at Clemson with Gallman being established, Choice coming off a redshirt, CJ Fuller improving at the end of the season and Feaster coming in.

How much of a raise would Dabo get? Well that depends. If Saban wins the national championship and retires Dabo could get quite a boost when hired as the next Alabama head coach. On the other hand if Clemson wins the national championship I bet he gets close to 6.

As far as I'm concerned whoever recruited the OL should get like a $2,000,000 bonus. It is unthinkable they'd change out the entire OL and be 14-0 and playing in the NC game. That just doesn't happen. Ever.

(01-01-2016 07:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  How much of a raise would Dabo get? Well that depends. If Saban wins the national championship and retires Dabo could get quite a boost when hired as the next Alabama head coach. On the other hand if Clemson wins the national championship I bet he gets close to 6.

I would guess 6ish as well. Swinney got pretty emotional at the groundbreaking ceremony for the football operations complex. It doesn't seem like he is itching to leave. His youngest kid graduates HS in 2021 or 2022. That is the time to watch things. He has a great deal of sweat equity in Clemson and Clemson can pay enough to be competitive. He may indeed choose Bama one day, but what he has built at Clemson will make it difficult for him to uproot. One key factor that we all know is that Saban's successor will certainly fail. Dabo knows this as we all do. If he does leave, I can't imagine Clemson will have any trouble filling the position with an outstanding candidate.

(01-01-2016 08:45 PM)ren.hoek Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 07:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  How much of a raise would Dabo get? Well that depends. If Saban wins the national championship and retires Dabo could get quite a boost when hired as the next Alabama head coach. On the other hand if Clemson wins the national championship I bet he gets close to 6.

I would guess 6ish as well. Swinney got pretty emotional at the groundbreaking ceremony for the football operations complex. It doesn't seem like he is itching to leave. His youngest kid graduates HS in 2021 or 2022. That is the time to watch things. He has a great deal of sweat equity in Clemson and Clemson can pay enough to be competitive. He may indeed choose Bama one day, but what he has built at Clemson will make it difficult for him to uproot. One key factor that we all know is that Saban's successor will certainly fail. Dabo knows this as we all do. If he does leave, I can't imagine Clemson will have any trouble filling the position with an outstanding candidate.

Yup. Better to let someone else be the next Ray Perkins/Bill Curry this go round and you become the next Gene Stallings.