Refs sucked . But, we got our ass kicked in 2nd half.
-- out coached
Auburn had better HC, bigger lineman, and maybe a tiny bit faster overall team speed.
Memphis had the better qb. He did not play well.

The worst officiating was the non-call in the end zone when an Auburn db just grabbed one of our Wrs to avoid the WR catching a TD pass.

(12-31-2015 02:08 AM)HungryTiger Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 04:40 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 04:28 PM)Tigerbrother Wrote:  You can say that again.

We had half of a coaching staff.

Paxton refused to talk to whomever upstairs which means he had no respect for that person.

We just did not seemed focused or motivated to play. I was surprised at the defense. Had we had just a couple of scores from the offense, those guys wouldn't give up. But they had zero help. No offense at all. None.

If true, it will be noted by NFL scouts and his draft value will drop accordingly.

He will be fine. Don't be silly

I do not see how disregarding coaching instructions helps his draft status (assuming Paxton is guilty). I am not an NFL Scout (perhaps you are and if so I will defer to your judgement), but in the real world demonstrated defiance by a person to follow the chain of command would cause considerable pause for employing that person.

(12-31-2015 08:24 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 02:08 AM)HungryTiger Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 04:40 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 04:28 PM)Tigerbrother Wrote:  You can say that again.

We had half of a coaching staff.

Paxton refused to talk to whomever upstairs which means he had no respect for that person.

We just did not seemed focused or motivated to play. I was surprised at the defense. Had we had just a couple of scores from the offense, those guys wouldn't give up. But they had zero help. No offense at all. None.

If true, it will be noted by NFL scouts and his draft value will drop accordingly.

He will be fine. Don't be silly

I do not see how disregarding coaching instructions helps his draft status (assuming Paxton is guilty). I am not an NFL Scout (perhaps you are and if so I will defer to your judgement), but in the real world demonstrated defiance by a person to follow the chain of command would cause considerable pause for employing that person.

Does it make you happy or sad?

PL took a beating on two national radio shows I heard this morning/last night. One had some serious doubts about him leaving early after what he saw yesterday. PL will be okay, but he played like crap against Auburn and it was noticed.

(12-30-2015 04:38 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 04:31 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 04:28 PM)Tigerbrother Wrote:  You can say that again.

We had half of a coaching staff.

Paxton refused to talk to whomever upstairs which means he had no respect for that person.

We just did not seemed focused or motivated to play. I was surprised at the defense. Had we had just a couple of scores from the offense, those guys wouldn't give up. But they had zero help. No offense at all. None.

If Paxton did that, he lost my respect. You respect your coaches even if you don't always follow instructions.

The announcers said during the game that for three straight series he came off the field and went straight to the bench without picking up the phone, talking to any staff on the sideline, or even talking to teammates.

Perhaps, that is common? I do not know, but it certainly seems odd. I was surprised when they said that.

It appeared to me from the stands that PL never went through his progressions to find an open receiver (shows lack of study prep). Looked like he picked the outside receiver virtually from the snap & threw the ball with first priority to not be intercepted rather than to hit the receiver in stride. He missed numerous open receivers, never even looked. PL seemed to be just going through the motions. Reminded me of PL in his first season as a starter, deer in the head lights, throw to the first option. And play calling was awful too - bad combination.

I thought there were several times RBs had gaps but looked for something bigger or with "less potential contact" ... in other words, didn't get "north-south" quick enough thinking a more attractive gap might open up.

(12-31-2015 10:18 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 04:38 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 04:31 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 04:28 PM)Tigerbrother Wrote:  You can say that again.

We had half of a coaching staff.

Paxton refused to talk to whomever upstairs which means he had no respect for that person.

We just did not seemed focused or motivated to play. I was surprised at the defense. Had we had just a couple of scores from the offense, those guys wouldn't give up. But they had zero help. No offense at all. None.

If Paxton did that, he lost my respect. You respect your coaches even if you don't always follow instructions.

The announcers said during the game that for three straight series he came off the field and went straight to the bench without picking up the phone, talking to any staff on the sideline, or even talking to teammates.

Perhaps, that is common? I do not know, but it certainly seems odd. I was surprised when they said that.

It appeared to me from the stands that PL never went through his progressions to find an open receiver (shows lack of study prep). Looked like he picked the outside receiver virtually from the snap & threw the ball with first priority to not be intercepted rather than to hit the receiver in stride. He missed numerous open receivers, never even looked. PL seemed to be just going through the motions. Reminded me of PL in his first season as a starter, deer in the head lights, throw to the first option. And play calling was awful too - bad combination.

He definitely was not going through progressions for some reason. On several occasions he had open receivers in the middle or other side of the field.

It looks like the Houston dominant win over Florida State puts the personnel issue to rest.

I was at the game, 40 rows up on the 30 yard line which gives me a better perspective than watching on Television. I put the blame mostly on the Offensive play calling. Defense played well but were put in tough situations too many times. Paxton was off on pretty much every phase of the game. The players were motivated initially, but I believe once things got rolling against us, the players body language indicated they were ready to pack it in. Most likely a result of our Coach departing. Reggis Ball is a very good player but I would just as soon they never mention his name again. Ever.

(12-31-2015 04:56 PM)msu65 Wrote:  I was at the game, 40 rows up on the 30 yard line which gives me a better perspective than watching on Television. I put the blame mostly on the Offensive play calling. Defense played well but were put in tough situations too many times. Paxton was off on pretty much every phase of the game. The players were motivated initially, but I believe once things got rolling against us, the players body language indicated they were ready to pack it in. Most likely a result of our Coach departing. Reggis Ball is a very good player but I would just as soon they never mention his name again. Ever.

And there's your recap, folks. This is as accurate as I have seen, although it lacks the proper criticism of the zebras. I'd like to know "F"'s address and phone number, and I was unfortunately not close enough to the field for "S" to hear my estimation of what "S" stood for...

(12-30-2015 09:46 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  I dont think so and I saw several blatant ones right in front the refs yet they call one on us from 30 yards away. I cant wait to watch my recording and really check them out...

Be sure to watch the punt in the second half which Auburn returned about 65 yards back to near our goal line. We would have stopped the returner soon after he caught the ball had our defender not been essentially tackled from behind right in front of an official. I was told that he was the same one who ignored a pass interference against us in the end zone.

What conference supplied the officials, by the way? They certainly weren't our friends.

(01-01-2016 12:01 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 09:46 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  I dont think so and I saw several blatant ones right in front the refs yet they call one on us from 30 yards away. I cant wait to watch my recording and really check them out...

Be sure to watch the punt in the second half which Auburn returned about 65 yards back to near our goal line. We would have stopped the returner soon after he caught the ball had our defender not been essentially tackled from behind right in front of an official. I was told that he was the same one who ignored a pass interference against us in the end zone.

What conference supplied the officials, by the way? They certainly weren't our friends.

It appears it was the Agenda Conf. There is some sort of holding on almost any play and to say Auburn was not flagged on any play, either the refs were blind, or choked on their whistles. Especially the play where the Auburn player clearly interfered right in front of the ref and he swallowed his whistle. It was the first nail in our coffin. I am sure many thought the same thing. Leaving Auburn thinking they just made a great play and kept us from taking the lead. It is one thing to get beaten on a play by the other team on a potential touchdown, but to be robbed of a touchdown by the ref can greatly change the spirit of the players. The refs didn't single handedly cost us the game, but they surely didn't call the game fairly. Seems we already had enough problems with the coaching staff gutted. So you have to ask the question, how does a ref 5 feet away miss an easy interference call when the majority of people in the stands, the announcers, those watching it on the tube could have made the call.

(01-01-2016 12:01 PM)Gray Avenger Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 09:46 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  I dont think so and I saw several blatant ones right in front the refs yet they call one on us from 30 yards away. I cant wait to watch my recording and really check them out...

Be sure to watch the punt in the second half which Auburn returned about 65 yards back to near our goal line. We would have stopped the returner soon after he caught the ball had our defender not been essentially tackled from behind right in front of an official. I was told that he was the same one who ignored a pass interference against us in the end zone.

What conference supplied the officials, by the way? They certainly weren't our friends.

Yes, I saw that one too. They showed the replay on the big screen and it was VERY obvious. I am surprised that our guys still had intact jerseys at the end of the game with all of the holding that was going on. Maybe, we should have had all of our guys wear tear-aways. I cannot believe that Auburn didn't get flagged for one single holding call. - AMAZING!

(12-30-2015 04:45 PM)mairving Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 04:38 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 04:31 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 04:28 PM)Tigerbrother Wrote:  You can say that again.

We had half of a coaching staff.

Paxton refused to talk to whomever upstairs which means he had no respect for that person.

We just did not seemed focused or motivated to play. I was surprised at the defense. Had we had just a couple of scores from the offense, those guys wouldn't give up. But they had zero help. No offense at all. None.

If Paxton did that, he lost my respect. You respect your coaches even if you don't always follow instructions.

They announcers said during the game that for three straight series he came off the field and went straight to the bench without picking up the phone, talking to any staff on the sideline, or even talking to teammates.

Perhaps, that is common? I do not know, but it certainly seems odd. I was surprised when they said that.

Anything the announcers said was a little suspect. They couldn't consistently tell you what down it was. I saw him talking to someone early in the game.

This ^. Those were 2 of the worst tv announcers I've heard on ESPN.

(12-30-2015 04:28 PM)Tigerbrother Wrote:  Paxton refused to talk to whomever upstairs which means he had no respect for that person.

I don't buy that. I know the announcers were making a deal of it and insinuating, but I saw PL on the phone about 10 minutes before they said that. I also saw him talking to coaches on the sideline.

Biggest problem was, yes, we only had about half of a staff during the past month and a lot of guys that needed direction, lost focus.

Refs were bad. I saw missed holds early in the game, and got a bad feeling. 3 penalties all day on Auburn.

Probably wouldn't have mattered the way the offense played. But the refs missed some crucial calls.

(12-31-2015 04:56 PM)msu65 Wrote:  I was at the game, 40 rows up on the 30 yard line which gives me a better perspective than watching on Television. I put the blame mostly on the Offensive play calling. Defense played well but were put in tough situations too many times. Paxton was off on pretty much every phase of the game. The players were motivated initially, but I believe once things got rolling against us, the players body language indicated they were ready to pack it in. Most likely a result of our Coach departing. Reggis Ball is a very good player but I would just as soon they never mention his name again. Ever.

What do you know? You act like you played the game. haha

JF and PL had made up their mind they were gone by the Tulsa game. If had noticed it was right after the offense began sputtering. Bad first half against Tulane, and bad halves against Navy Houston and Temple. Most likely could have said the same thing about SMU if Tigers had not gone vanilla on purpose to hold down score.

(01-02-2016 01:31 PM)SigEpMike Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 04:56 PM)msu65 Wrote:  I was at the game, 40 rows up on the 30 yard line which gives me a better perspective than watching on Television. I put the blame mostly on the Offensive play calling. Defense played well but were put in tough situations too many times. Paxton was off on pretty much every phase of the game. The players were motivated initially, but I believe once things got rolling against us, the players body language indicated they were ready to pack it in. Most likely a result of our Coach departing. Reggis Ball is a very good player but I would just as soon they never mention his name again. Ever.

What do you know? You act like you played the game. haha

I will add, players rarely support other players embarrassing the program. We had some of that happen when I was there, and it was a tough love policy from players up to coaches. You have to be especially aware of that now as everybody has a cell phone and access to youtube, facebook or Twitter. Players also rarely blame referees. I have seem games where conference refs seem to have an agenda protecting there team, or just gross incompetence, but it usually can be overcome and a player with any self respect will take responsibility for not overcoming any circumstance. There are over 100 plays in a game. Any one of them you have a chance to make a difference. It drives me crazy when someone says a missed kick or dropped pass, cost us a game.

And this is why I hate playing $EC teams