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(12-30-2015 11:35 PM)HuskieTom1951 Wrote:  I find it somewhat curious that SF wouldn't issue a statement that would at least curb the rumors and innuendos until his "investigation" is complete. He responds often times on twitter. He can see what is being said about the program.

2 coordinators and a position coach are gone within a week and still no statements from the athletic department????
12-31-2015 04:38 PM
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(12-31-2015 04:38 PM)HuskieTom1951 Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 11:35 PM)HuskieTom1951 Wrote:  I find it somewhat curious that SF wouldn't issue a statement that would at least curb the rumors and innuendos until his "investigation" is complete. He responds often times on twitter. He can see what is being said about the program.

2 coordinators and a position coach are gone within a week and still no statements from the athletic department????

We can ask about it when they start calling next week to renew our season tickets.
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(12-31-2015 03:43 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
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(12-31-2015 12:54 AM)GOONSQUAD41 Wrote:  There are no issues and I wish people could remember that this is a business. People come and go. Time to move on to 2016 forward together forward!

There was an issue before the team headed west. Members of the defense briefly left either conditioning or a practice in an effort to get their displeasure known. Unfortunately, many did not feel their concerns were recognized. Perhaps it's a molehill, but something still needs to be addressed to keep it from becoming a mountain or worse yet, a volcano. Ideally this needs to be put to rest because what's dribbling out is sometimes exaggerated or wrong.

Is it possible the players united in that bowl game to throw Carey under the bus

If so the program is a mess and it will be difficult to turn things around.

Really don't want to think that way, but I fear its a possibility.

Oh my...MD, get an adult beverage tonight and take some deep breaths.

Good lord.
12-31-2015 05:13 PM
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(12-31-2015 04:38 PM)HuskieTom1951 Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 11:35 PM)HuskieTom1951 Wrote:  I find it somewhat curious that SF wouldn't issue a statement that would at least curb the rumors and innuendos until his "investigation" is complete. He responds often times on twitter. He can see what is being said about the program.

2 coordinators and a position coach are gone within a week and still no statements from the athletic department????

Could be me but don't schools typically just make announcements when someone is hired?
Maybe when an HC is fired?

Huskie Wire did do a story on Niemann leaving. It had quotes from both Niemann & RC.
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(12-31-2015 05:13 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  
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(12-31-2015 12:10 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  There was an issue before the team headed west. Members of the defense briefly left either conditioning or a practice in an effort to get their displeasure known. Unfortunately, many did not feel their concerns were recognized. Perhaps it's a molehill, but something still needs to be addressed to keep it from becoming a mountain or worse yet, a volcano. Ideally this needs to be put to rest because what's dribbling out is sometimes exaggerated or wrong.

Is it possible the players united in that bowl game to throw Carey under the bus

If so the program is a mess and it will be difficult to turn things around.

Really don't want to think that way, but I fear its a possibility.

Oh my...MD, get an adult beverage tonight and take some deep breaths.

Good lord.

Re-lax. I think we're just having a lot of confirmation bias. If I'm wrong I owe you a drink hahaha
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(12-31-2015 05:22 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  Could be me but don't schools typically just make announcements when someone is hired?
Maybe when an HC is fired?
Huskie Wire did do a story on Niemann leaving. It had quotes from both Niemann & RC.

In the old days, there was an unwritten agreement that the school making the hire got to make the announcement. Somewhere along the way, one of the new-age, control-freak ADs was angry and told his media people to essentially steal the other school's thunder. Now it's become a free for all. The fact HuskieWire had quotes from Niemann isn't surprising, the fact they had comments from RC shows NIU's current media relations staff takes a very passive approach to just about everything.
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(12-31-2015 03:43 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-31-2015 03:40 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  
(12-31-2015 02:10 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-31-2015 12:10 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  
(12-31-2015 12:54 AM)GOONSQUAD41 Wrote:  There are no issues and I wish people could remember that this is a business. People come and go. Time to move on to 2016 forward together forward!

There was an issue before the team headed west. Members of the defense briefly left either conditioning or a practice in an effort to get their displeasure known. Unfortunately, many did not feel their concerns were recognized. Perhaps it's a molehill, but something still needs to be addressed to keep it from becoming a mountain or worse yet, a volcano. Ideally this needs to be put to rest because what's dribbling out is sometimes exaggerated or wrong.

Is it possible the players united in that bowl game to throw Carey under the bus

If so the program is a mess and it will be difficult to turn things around.

Really don't want to think that way, but I fear its a possibility.

MD, I presume the whole team uniting to throw Carey under the bus is just speculation. Anything close to that would mean our football program is in deep trouble!

But it still feels like tick, tick, tick; something bad is going to come out and happen, just what, when and why. This thread started out with a couple tweets. Jordon Stark (a media guy in Toledo) tweeted that after the Football Scoop article mentioned issues at NIU, he talked to a source who told him there are definitely issues & it starts with the HC. After Cole not returning today came out he tweeted: As I said yesterday, there are some major issues at NIU. It all starts at the top. Been one rough week for them. I can see why a Toledo media guy would have an interest in NIU football and perhaps be happy there are issues. Who is the source and what are the “major issues”? The last tweet in the first post of this thread from a coach Durchik included that there are real issues at NIU. Not publicized that I’m aware of; but real. This coach Durchik is the Assistant Athletic Director, Interim Head Football Coach and Head Boys Track Coach at Fivay High School in Florida. I know nothing about this guy, and just noticed he has a tweet or two on Carey’s tweeter and the Hard Way tweeter accounts. I do not have a clue where he gets his information from and what he means by “real issues”. However, unlike a Toledo media guy, I can’t phantom why a high school athletic director at a Florida high school would like to see issues in the NIU football program!

What does this and other things mean? Who knows; maybe nothing, but I still get a sense of something bad is coming out! And I do not include the 2 coaches leaving as having anything to do with this. I also have concerns that the mainstream media is going to publicize something before Frazier gets his chance. I like Frazier and think he is doing a great job, but just hope if there is something bad he does not miss his chance to get out in front of it. I thought about not posting this as I would hear the sky is falling responses! However, there just seems to be enough little pieces to see the smoke and perhaps the fire. It seems that others have a feeling that something is coming out also, and I have yet to hear anything resembling any reason that even begins to explain the Boise State debacle!
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Durchik grew up in DeKalb and his tweet did not state there were problems at NIU. Footballscoop's tweet did.
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(12-31-2015 08:28 PM)NILAW Wrote:  This coach Durchik is the Assistant Athletic Director, Interim Head Football Coach and Head Boys Track Coach at Fivay High School in Florida. I know nothing about this guy, and just noticed he has a tweet or two on Carey’s tweeter and the Hard Way tweeter accounts. I do not have a clue where he gets his information from and what he means by “real issues”. However, unlike a Toledo media guy, I can’t phantom why a high school athletic director at a Florida high school would like to see issues in the NIU football program!

Is there a first name listed?
Gary Durchik was the offensive coordinator here at NIU under Bill Mallory when Joe Novak was the defensive coordinator. Novak and several others followed Mallory to Indiana, Durchik was a candidate to replace Mallory, but NIU opted to go with a name to make a big splash -- enter Lee Corso. Not certain if it is the same Durchik, but he was extremely loyal to the Huskie program and has a lot of ties in the community. When it says born in DeKalb, it would probably be Gary Durchik's son Matt.
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(12-31-2015 08:28 PM)NILAW Wrote:  What does this and other things mean? Who knows; maybe nothing, but I still get a sense of something bad is coming out!

It would not shock me. There almost has to be some underlying issue going on to turn in 33 yards for a football game, that is really really hard to do even against the best teams in college football, and this was a against a middle of the road top 60 caliber team like Boise St. This is a good time for an NIU fan to immerse themselves in basketball, I sure hope NIU basketball serves as a bridge to baseball or I will go crazy.

Something tells me the genesis of the unrest and the beginning of the fracturing has its roots in Columbus, OH. The coaches abandoned the team in that game, and I really get a feeling it did not sit well with the players. Just wild speculation, but yes I agree, it does feel like we are not hearing something still.
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(01-01-2016 12:30 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  There may be Issues within NIU football, but hey, they still are the best damn football team in the land. Happy New Year Dog Pound Message Board. 2016 is the year of the Huskies.
Amen DogpoundNorth!!!03-cloud9
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Come on, all---every program has "issues". And, they are certainly magnified when one loses--especially by 48 points in a football game.

I'm not sure of the protocol in this social media age, but coaches leaving without press conferences, full statements from the university (either the hiring or firing/losing) is probably not uncommon. There are thousands of collegiate coaches with their seasons done and job seeking is probably simple procedure. For everyone that leaves NIU someone will step in.

Now, concerning "issues"---the chance that any REAL information will come out of the athletic department is ZERO. Please rewind nine months---the Women's basketball program had REAL ISSUES---and to my knowledge, they have never been made public. Kathy Bennett and Deb Whitman got their settlements, nothing was made public, and we have moved on. Granted, the spotlight on Women's hoops is very, very dim compared to football---but nothing from the athletic department or university other than resignation and pay for eighteen months (may be off a little).

Let's just wait and see what happens---and what we are told. I would be willing to guess that 95%, maybe 99% of you have much more contact to inside knowledge and are much closer to the program than I. I'm merely a fan, an alumnus that watches from the sideline, per se, with no inside contacts or knowledge. I try to use common sense and try to understand that things are never as good as they seem when we are on a high, and never as low as they seem when we are on a low. I'm just trying to apply the "low" theory right now.
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(01-01-2016 09:15 AM)Milwaukee Pilot Wrote:  Come on, all---every program has "issues". And, they are certainly magnified when one loses--especially by 48 points in a football game.

I'm not sure of the protocol in this social media age, but coaches leaving without press conferences, full statements from the university (either the hiring or firing/losing) is probably not uncommon. There are thousands of collegiate coaches with their seasons done and job seeking is probably simple procedure. For everyone that leaves NIU someone will step in.

Now, concerning "issues"---the chance that any REAL information will come out of the athletic department is ZERO. Please rewind nine months---the Women's basketball program had REAL ISSUES---and to my knowledge, they have never been made public. Kathy Bennett and Deb Whitman got their settlements, nothing was made public, and we have moved on. Granted, the spotlight on Women's hoops is very, very dim compared to football---but nothing from the athletic department or university other than resignation and pay for eighteen months (may be off a little).

Let's just wait and see what happens---and what we are told. I would be willing to guess that 95%, maybe 99% of you have much more contact to inside knowledge and are much closer to the program than I. I'm merely a fan, an alumnus that watches from the sideline, per se, with no inside contacts or knowledge. I try to use common sense and try to understand that things are never as good as they seem when we are on a high, and never as low as they seem when we are on a low. I'm just trying to apply the "low" theory right now.

Great post, I couldn't agree with you more. Moreover, what team or organization doesn't have personnel issues. We hired SF for a reason and I trust that he knows when to make an issue public knowledge.
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(12-31-2015 08:28 PM)NILAW Wrote:  What does this and other things mean? Who knows; maybe nothing, but I still get a sense of something bad is coming out!

It would not shock me. There almost has to be some underlying issue going on to turn in 33 yards for a football game, that is really really hard to do even against the best teams in college football, and this was a against a middle of the road top 60 caliber team like Boise St. This is a good time for an NIU fan to immerse themselves in basketball, I sure hope NIU basketball serves as a bridge to baseball or I will go crazy.

Something tells me the genesis of the unrest and the beginning of the fracturing has its roots in Columbus, OH. The coaches abandoned the team in that game, and I really get a feeling it did not sit well with the players. Just wild speculation, but yes I agree, it does feel like we are not hearing something still.

Yeah, that 6 game win streak not long after shows how fractured they were after that DEBACLE in Columbus.
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(01-01-2016 12:16 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  
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(12-31-2015 08:28 PM)NILAW Wrote:  What does this and other things mean? Who knows; maybe nothing, but I still get a sense of something bad is coming out!

It would not shock me. There almost has to be some underlying issue going on to turn in 33 yards for a football game, that is really really hard to do even against the best teams in college football, and this was a against a middle of the road top 60 caliber team like Boise St. This is a good time for an NIU fan to immerse themselves in basketball, I sure hope NIU basketball serves as a bridge to baseball or I will go crazy.

Something tells me the genesis of the unrest and the beginning of the fracturing has its roots in Columbus, OH. The coaches abandoned the team in that game, and I really get a feeling it did not sit well with the players. Just wild speculation, but yes I agree, it does feel like we are not hearing something still.

Yeah, that 6 game win streak not long after shows how fractured they were after that DEBACLE in Columbus.
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(01-01-2016 03:44 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  
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(01-01-2016 01:50 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-31-2015 08:28 PM)NILAW Wrote:  What does this and other things mean? Who knows; maybe nothing, but I still get a sense of something bad is coming out!

It would not shock me. There almost has to be some underlying issue going on to turn in 33 yards for a football game, that is really really hard to do even against the best teams in college football, and this was a against a middle of the road top 60 caliber team like Boise St. This is a good time for an NIU fan to immerse themselves in basketball, I sure hope NIU basketball serves as a bridge to baseball or I will go crazy.

Something tells me the genesis of the unrest and the beginning of the fracturing has its roots in Columbus, OH. The coaches abandoned the team in that game, and I really get a feeling it did not sit well with the players. Just wild speculation, but yes I agree, it does feel like we are not hearing something still.

Yeah, that 6 game win streak not long after shows how fractured they were after that DEBACLE in Columbus.
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This board is insane sometimes, lol.
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(01-01-2016 06:10 PM)zdsmith Wrote:  This board is insane sometimes, lol.

I get overreacting immediately, you're still bleeding and hurting. It's why I steered clear for a few days. Emotion inhibits logic, blah blah blah. But it's been a bit now. Now the stupidity shows.
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