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RE: What to make of Bohn's silence
(12-30-2015 08:18 AM)CorneliusCat Wrote:  do you really think UC is going to be asked to the Big 12 now? Temple will get an invite before we do, as they would bring in the Philly & NYC markets.

perhaps Bohn is not saying anything as the coach he wants (an OC or DC) still has a game to be played this season.

Temple? You can't be serious. One good football season doesn't make a school a power five candidate. They are way behind Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, and Memphis with their facilities and consistent fan support. Don't let this season fool you because they hosted Penn State and Notre Dame. Think about what UC's attendance would be like if they hosted Ohio State and Kentucky at PBS.

Temple, ECU, UCF, and USF are second tier expansion candidates at this point the game. I would argue that BYU and Navy as football only candidates are ahead of this group too.
 
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(12-30-2015 10:11 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  Do AD's often talk with the media? It would be more weird to me if he was talking to the media.

Agreed. I don't see why anyone expects to hear from him.
 
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RE: What to make of Bohn's silence
(12-30-2015 10:36 AM)subflea Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 10:11 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  Do AD's often talk with the media? It would be more weird to me if he was talking to the media.

Agreed. I don't see why anyone expects to hear from him.

Well after a disappointing football season with two end of year debacles...might want to say something or there's going to be plenty of people not buying tickets next year.

UC has a serious marketing problem on their hands heading into next year. I know I will not be buying tickets next year. I'm sure I'm not alone.

Maybe the marketing plan is to sell us on seeing the former mid major teams that have passed UC by in the AAC so quickly.

PS Tubervilles comments about needing to go recruit when the top recruits have defected and you just lost one of your two best/main recruiters....is laughable and doesn't give anyone hope.
 
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RE: What to make of Bohn's silence
(12-30-2015 11:04 AM)50Cent Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 10:36 AM)subflea Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 10:11 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  Do AD's often talk with the media? It would be more weird to me if he was talking to the media.

Agreed. I don't see why anyone expects to hear from him.

Well after a disappointing football season with two end of year debacles...might want to say something or there's going to be plenty of people not buying tickets next year.

UC has a serious marketing problem on their hands heading into next year. I know I will not be buying tickets next year. I'm sure I'm not alone.

Maybe the marketing plan is to sell us on seeing the former mid major teams that have passed UC by in the AAC so quickly.

PS Tubervilles comments about needing to go recruit when the top recruits have defected and you just lost one of your two best/main recruiters....is laughable and doesn't give anyone hope.

maybe UC can get its marketing dept. in touch with the Reds. They seem to have similar issues for selling 2016 tickets - their suckiness
 
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(12-30-2015 08:15 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 07:35 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  From the Enquirer article; "Bohn recently told The Enquirer of his “resounding” support for Tuberville. When asked if that meant a potential contract extension, Bohn said:

“We have resounding support with his existing agreement. I don’t know how else to categorize it.”


I wouldn't say he's silent

That sounds like a strong comment that a contract extension/raise is no longer on the table....which is smart...as Tubbs is being paid handsomely.

Just fulfill your current contract...as it was the best contract in the conf (now Herman is making more), no clue why teams want to continue to dig a bigger hole by offering new deals to coaches when the current contract is just fine.

Exactly
 
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RE: What to make of Bohn's silence
(12-30-2015 10:36 AM)subflea Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 10:11 AM)BeerCat Wrote:  Do AD's often talk with the media? It would be more weird to me if he was talking to the media.

Agreed. I don't see why anyone expects to hear from him.

I remember when Bob Goin was here he was constantly in the media. Granted, some major things happened in his tenure (phone card scandal, Huggins DUI, Huggins heart attack, UC getting into the Big East) But it still seemed like he was very visible outside of those circumstances.
 
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RE: What to make of Bohn's silence
Not buying tickets is not the answer. We need to continue to support the program, go to games and get other people to go to the games. No P5 is ever going to take us seriously unless we can consistently fill the stadium and support the program.

You can voice your disapproval of the Coach and still support the program.
 
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(12-30-2015 12:23 PM)DJBEARCAT Wrote:  Not buying tickets is not the answer. We need to continue to support the program, go to games and get other people to go to the games. No P5 is ever going to take us seriously unless we can consistently fill the stadium and support the program.

You can voice your disapproval of the Coach and still support the program.

I get what you're saying, but I simply cant do it anymore. I won't waste my money to see this crap and go to bowl games to see us blown out by San Diego Freakin State. Bohn and Co. need to get the message that this is not working and that change is needed now, not after a couple years. If I didn't believe that real damage was being done by TT being here, then I would still go to games and donate money. It's not about wins and losses for me. It's about the erosion of the program. We are being Kragthorped

I wish I were a billion dollar booster like T Boone Pickens whose opinions move mountains. Absent that, the only way for most fans to really get heard is to simply stop going to games and making donations.
 
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RE: What to make of Bohn's silence
(12-30-2015 11:39 AM)RedRocker Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 08:15 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 07:35 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  From the Enquirer article; "Bohn recently told The Enquirer of his “resounding” support for Tuberville. When asked if that meant a potential contract extension, Bohn said:

“We have resounding support with his existing agreement. I don’t know how else to categorize it.”


I wouldn't say he's silent

That sounds like a strong comment that a contract extension/raise is no longer on the table....which is smart...as Tubbs is being paid handsomely.

Just fulfill your current contract...as it was the best contract in the conf (now Herman is making more), no clue why teams want to continue to dig a bigger hole by offering new deals to coaches when the current contract is just fine.

Exactly

I may be off-base and paying too much attention to how P5 schools operate but that quote tells me right there he was on the hot seat big-time even prior to the bowl game debacle, especially in light of Tubberville going on record about wanting an extension.
 
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(12-30-2015 12:23 PM)DJBEARCAT Wrote:  Not buying tickets is not the answer. We need to continue to support the program, go to games and get other people to go to the games. No P5 is ever going to take us seriously unless we can consistently fill the stadium and support the program.

You can voice your disapproval of the Coach and still support the program.

You are correct!!! Most of us that spend time on these boards are die hards and we have to continue to support the program and not be bandwagon fans. We do not stay silent, we make our feelings and concerns known but can't abandon the program. If we do then there will be no one left.
 
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(12-30-2015 01:48 PM)djaphone Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 12:23 PM)DJBEARCAT Wrote:  Not buying tickets is not the answer. We need to continue to support the program, go to games and get other people to go to the games. No P5 is ever going to take us seriously unless we can consistently fill the stadium and support the program.

You can voice your disapproval of the Coach and still support the program.

You are correct!!! Most of us that spend time on these boards are die hards and we have to continue to support the program and not be bandwagon fans. We do not stay silent, we make our feelings and concerns known but can't abandon the program. If we do then there will be no one left.

I think there is a difference between being a bandwagon fan and blindly supporting whatever crappy product they provide. I woukd feel much better about giving my hard earned money if I knew they were honestly invested in winning. By keeping CTT around, I have a hard time belive g that. They are taking a page out of the Mike Brown theory, by receiving good money for a poor service.
 
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(12-30-2015 11:39 AM)RedRocker Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 08:15 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 07:35 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  From the Enquirer article; "Bohn recently told The Enquirer of his “resounding” support for Tuberville. When asked if that meant a potential contract extension, Bohn said:

“We have resounding support with his existing agreement. I don’t know how else to categorize it.”


I wouldn't say he's silent

That sounds like a strong comment that a contract extension/raise is no longer on the table....which is smart...as Tubbs is being paid handsomely.

Just fulfill your current contract...as it was the best contract in the conf (now Herman is making more), no clue why teams want to continue to dig a bigger hole by offering new deals to coaches when the current contract is just fine.

Exactly

Convention wisdom is recruiting takes a big hit if coach doesn't have multiple years left.
 
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(12-30-2015 02:03 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 11:39 AM)RedRocker Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 08:15 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 07:35 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  From the Enquirer article; "Bohn recently told The Enquirer of his “resounding” support for Tuberville. When asked if that meant a potential contract extension, Bohn said:

“We have resounding support with his existing agreement. I don’t know how else to categorize it.”


I wouldn't say he's silent

That sounds like a strong comment that a contract extension/raise is no longer on the table....which is smart...as Tubbs is being paid handsomely.

Just fulfill your current contract...as it was the best contract in the conf (now Herman is making more), no clue why teams want to continue to dig a bigger hole by offering new deals to coaches when the current contract is just fine.

Exactly

Convention wisdom is recruiting takes a big hit if coach doesn't have multiple years left.

Yep, which based on Bohn's comments tells me Tubberville is definitely on the hot seat. I just don't know if another year of bad football and a terrible recruiting class is the way to go. That could really bury the program.
 
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(12-30-2015 02:03 PM)Former Lurker Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 11:39 AM)RedRocker Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 08:15 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  
(12-30-2015 07:35 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  From the Enquirer article; "Bohn recently told The Enquirer of his “resounding” support for Tuberville. When asked if that meant a potential contract extension, Bohn said:

“We have resounding support with his existing agreement. I don’t know how else to categorize it.”


I wouldn't say he's silent

That sounds like a strong comment that a contract extension/raise is no longer on the table....which is smart...as Tubbs is being paid handsomely.

Just fulfill your current contract...as it was the best contract in the conf (now Herman is making more), no clue why teams want to continue to dig a bigger hole by offering new deals to coaches when the current contract is just fine.

Exactly

Convention wisdom is recruiting takes a big hit if coach doesn't have multiple years left.

Covered in another thread. UC can extend him for 1,000 years as long as the cost to can him does not include all of the money owed in the contract. Since no one is coming after Tubs, to hire him away, UC should be able fire him and payout is 1 year salary or less.
 
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RE: What to make of Bohn's silence
15-3 at home. I support removing Tuberville but the idea that you are getting a crappy product at home games is no where close to being true. His road and bowl game record is 10-11 and that is the primary issue most us have with the overall performance. Butch Jones lost three home games his first year and five overall. Kelly lost two in his first year and three overall. Mark Dantonio lost a total of four home games. If you like to see winning football going to Bearcat games is the place be. 15 total losses at home in 12 years!

Bandwagon fans only show up when the team is winning. I am not sure what you call fans that don't want to show up to home even if the teams wins just about everyone of them each season. Even with BYU, Houston, Memphis, ECU and USF on the home schedule next season I expect the Cats to go 6-1 or 5-2 at home. That is pretty much what they have done for the last 12 seasons. Heck even Minter's 2000 team was undefeated at Nippert.
 
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Exactly... this team has been a disaster away from home....certainly this year, but also most of Tuberville's time at UC. However, this team continues to be almost the program it was prior to Tuberville during home games.
 
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(12-30-2015 02:28 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  15-3 at home. I support removing Tuberville but the idea that you are getting a crappy product at home games is no where close to being true. His road and bowl game record is 10-11 and that is the primary issue most us have with the overall performance. Butch Jones lost three home games his first year and five overall. Kelly lost two in his first year and three overall. Mark Dantonio lost a total of four home games. If you like to see winning football going to Bearcat games is the place be. 15 total losses at home in 12 years!

Bandwagon fans only show up when the team is winning. I am not sure what you call fans that don't want to show up to home even if the teams wins just about everyone of them each season. Even with BYU, Houston, Memphis, ECU and USF on the home schedule next season I expect the Cats to go 6-1 or 5-2 at home. That is pretty much what they have done for the last 12 seasons. Heck even Minter's 2000 team was undefeated at Nippert.

Sorry, the only sure win I see at home next year is Tennessee-Martin. I am not saying that we won't win more, but these other schools have either beaten us this past year or knocked on the door. Moreover, with returning talent some of those players will be better in 2016 than they were in 2015. We will be facing coaching changes/new scheme, possibly a new QB, loss of all of the valuable receivers and the two starting offensive tackles. Let's examine some of the teams coming to Nippert next year a little closer:

Tenn-Martin: As I said, sure win.
Miami U: Have been knocking on the door the past three years. Return nearly everyone on their roster next year. Like XU, the game is their Super Bowl. We should beat them but really, it is premature to assume this will be a win.
BYU: Beat us this year with a guy who was their #2 option at QB. We made him look like the next coming of Steve Young. The #1 guy will be back as will a bunch of their other guys. 50/50 at best and that is giving us the benefit of the doubt.
Houston: They have a better coach and return a bunch of guys next year. Moreover, all the 5 and 4 star talent they have been recruiting the past two years will be ready to contribute. Could be ugly.
Memphis: They lose their coach and stud QB so we have a good shot. That being said they have beaten us twice in a row.
ECU: We needed Andrew Gantz heroics two years in a row to pull this one out. Like BYU, the guy who was their #1 QB did not play this year and they will get him back. This game will not be a easy.
USF: They beat us like an FCS team this year. They are still really young and will only be better next year. No way we can chalk this up as a W.
 
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I wish I could make 2.5 million bucks for doing a job, just biding my time, until I retired a few years later. After I saw CTT slap his assistant coach at Texas Tech during a game down there, I knew he was not the right guy for the job.
 
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(12-30-2015 06:19 PM)CorneliusCat Wrote:  I wish I could make 2.5 million bucks for doing a job, just biding my time, until I retired a few years later. After I saw CTT slap his assistant coach at Texas Tech during a game down there, I knew he was not the right guy for the job.

Never saw that vid. Yeah that's pretty bad. Sad thing is that's the most emotion I've ever seen come out of him...too bad it was unprofessional and childlike. Embarrassing for sure.
 
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RE: What to make of Bohn's silence
(12-30-2015 06:19 PM)CorneliusCat Wrote:  I wish I could make 2.5 million bucks for doing a job, just biding my time, until I retired a few years later. After I saw CTT slap his assistant coach at Texas Tech during a game down there, I knew he was not the right guy for the job.
I once heard TT speak, and he told us that early on in his career, he walked away from an 80K pay figure as a high school coach to make no salary while working under Jimmy Johnson.

Not that it matters, but it seemed like a cool story.

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