Everything else aside, there is no such thing as a good 100 year decision for OU at this point.

Realignment's true victim may end up being one of the truly elite programs in college football. No matter where OU moves they will be isolated and on the outside.

It's a real shame.

So you're saying that it will be UConn & Texas to the ACC? Texas as full? Oklahoma & Kansas to the B1G? What happens with ND?

(01-03-2016 07:45 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  So you're saying that it will be UConn & Texas to the ACC? Texas as full? Oklahoma & Kansas to the B1G? What happens with ND?

Nah, I'm still saying Baylor and UConn to the ACC as full members. Texas and ND with similar contracts with the ACC with one small difference. I think Texas will take the six game deal in return for having a protected rival game against Baylor every year. Above that they may also achieve some special considerations in regards to programs they are used to having on The Longhorn Network also being available on The ACC Network.

(01-03-2016 07:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 07:25 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 07:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 06:23 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  UConn is talking to the big 12 but not about UConn joining the big 12. I will give you a hint, they are serving similar purpose as West Virginia once did.

It is quite possible they are acting as an intermediary for discussions with the Big 10 to avoid tortuous interference charges. That could be their ticket into the Big 10. A Kansas / UConn move, or an Oklahoma / UConn move could be in the making, or even something larger. But one also has to consider another possibility here. UConn and Cincinnati may well get an invitation, but with no new GOR being signed, but with both of them signing the existing GOR. If the latter is the case it is merely the adding of enough schools so that Texas and Oklahoma cannot be accused of destroying the conference when they leave, or Kansas and Oklahoma for that matter.

If 10 schools are left (the same number required for the original GOR language) then the contract may get extended, but would not have to have any more than 10 schools to remain valid. Should two schools not agree tot he extension it becomes their ticket out for nothing more than exit fees.

It's not just about The Big Ten. They would be acting as intermediary for ESPN. UConn's best chance at getting into a conference is with The ACC. ESPN only has enough leverage with The ACC in terms of being able to push UConn into a conference. The ACC will accept UConn if they get their Network in return. They get their Network if ESPN can turn The Longhorn Network into The ACC Network.

So UConn isn't just talking about schools going to The Big Ten. They are talking about schools going to The Big Ten, The SEC, The ACC and The PAC.

Since UConn is not a P5 member that would be the perfect vehicle for brokering. No interference charges at all.

So UConn, Texas (as a partial), Baylor, Cincy & T.C.U. to the ACC, N.D. stays a partial?

ACC moves to 16 full and 2 partial?

Kansas & Oklahoma to the Big 10?

Virginia Tech and N.C. State to the SEC?

Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State to the PAC?

That might work but I think it is too cliche now.

If I had to guess it would be something like this:

UConn to the ACC & Notre Dame goes all in. ACC stands at 16.

Kansas and Missouri to the Big 10 and the Big 10 stands at 16.

Oklahoma, West Virginia, and Baylor to the SEC. SEC stands at 16.

Texas, Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech & T.C.U. to the PAC. PAC stands at 18.

What's your guess here?

You know what? I don't know. There are a lot of scenarios and theories being tossed around on the inside....

I am sticking with my concept that I have put forward for quite awhile because it is still viable. It hasn't been made invalid by anything, in fact it has actually been made more valid by all that has happened to the big 12 AND the slight given to The PAC this year due to their cannibalization. That makes it easier to sell The PAC on not bringing in more big time programs which might only increase the internal cannibalization.

My scenario I have had for awhile is more sellable now than it has ever been in the past. I see no reason for me to veer from it now.

That doesn't mean I think it is the only viable scenario as I have also discussed other scenario's with you.

I don't think The Big Ten would be happy and agreeable with just Missouri and Kansas though, sorry. They are the ones with their contract up for renegotiation currently, the only ones. You may not like it but they have a strong hand of cards while sitting at this poker table. They certainly have a strong enough hand to not settle for Missouri and Kansas.

(01-03-2016 08:01 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 07:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 07:25 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 07:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 06:23 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  UConn is talking to the big 12 but not about UConn joining the big 12. I will give you a hint, they are serving similar purpose as West Virginia once did.

It is quite possible they are acting as an intermediary for discussions with the Big 10 to avoid tortuous interference charges. That could be their ticket into the Big 10. A Kansas / UConn move, or an Oklahoma / UConn move could be in the making, or even something larger. But one also has to consider another possibility here. UConn and Cincinnati may well get an invitation, but with no new GOR being signed, but with both of them signing the existing GOR. If the latter is the case it is merely the adding of enough schools so that Texas and Oklahoma cannot be accused of destroying the conference when they leave, or Kansas and Oklahoma for that matter.

If 10 schools are left (the same number required for the original GOR language) then the contract may get extended, but would not have to have any more than 10 schools to remain valid. Should two schools not agree tot he extension it becomes their ticket out for nothing more than exit fees.

It's not just about The Big Ten. They would be acting as intermediary for ESPN. UConn's best chance at getting into a conference is with The ACC. ESPN only has enough leverage with The ACC in terms of being able to push UConn into a conference. The ACC will accept UConn if they get their Network in return. They get their Network if ESPN can turn The Longhorn Network into The ACC Network.

So UConn isn't just talking about schools going to The Big Ten. They are talking about schools going to The Big Ten, The SEC, The ACC and The PAC.

Since UConn is not a P5 member that would be the perfect vehicle for brokering. No interference charges at all.

So UConn, Texas (as a partial), Baylor, Cincy & T.C.U. to the ACC, N.D. stays a partial?

ACC moves to 16 full and 2 partial?

Kansas & Oklahoma to the Big 10?

Virginia Tech and N.C. State to the SEC?

Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State to the PAC?

That might work but I think it is too cliche now.

If I had to guess it would be something like this:

UConn to the ACC & Notre Dame goes all in. ACC stands at 16.

Kansas and Missouri to the Big 10 and the Big 10 stands at 16.

Oklahoma, West Virginia, and Baylor to the SEC. SEC stands at 16.

Texas, Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech & T.C.U. to the PAC. PAC stands at 18.

What's your guess here?

You know what? I don't know. There are a lot of scenarios and theories being tossed around on the inside....

I am sticking with my concept that I have put forward for quite awhile because it is still viable. It hasn't been made invalid by anything, in fact it has actually been made more valid by all that has happened to the big 12 AND the slight given to The PAC this year due to their cannibalization. That makes it easier to sell The PAC on not bringing in more big time programs which might only increase the internal cannibalization.

My scenario I have had for awhile is more sellable now than it has ever been in the past. I see no reason for me to veer from it now.

That doesn't mean I think it is the only viable scenario as I have also discussed other scenario's with you.

I don't think The Big Ten would be happy and agreeable with just Missouri and Kansas though, sorry. They are the ones with their contract up for renegotiation currently, the only ones. You may not like it but they have a strong hand of cards while sitting at this poker table. They certainly have a strong enough hand to not settle for Missouri and Kansas.

There's nothing to be sorry about. Anything is possible. If Texas moves as a partial and takes Baylor /T.C.U. when you add UConn that gives the ACC 16 plus 2 partials.
But that's not enough to give them a good 4 school division in the West is it?

There are many viable options. A brokering would be a good thing at this juncture. I hope that is what we get. Otherwise there will be instability for a long time to come. But I wouldn't count too much on landing two prizes if it is brokered.

We'll see.

But if Texas does go as a partial and UConn is part of the package, then I could see three more Texas buddies moving in the deal and N.C. State and Virginia Tech headed our way.

XLance laid out an interesting scenario the other day. N.C. State and Virginia Tech to the Big 10 along with Missouri and Kansas. Texas, Oklahoma, Florida State, Oklahoma State and West Virginia to the SEC. We both move to 18.

Then the ACC adds N.D. in full and is done at 12. The PAC stays at 12.

I found that interesting.

I used to have TCU to the ACC as part of my scenario due to the obvious desire of Texas to take two rather than just one. The problem I saw in that later on though is that TCU going to the PAC might help soothe them a little to this concept as it gives them a location within the DFW metro area. If they get that then they might bite as two locations in Texas gives a lot more trips to Texas.

The ACC will still have division issues with this situation but they are used to having divisional issues so if a conference has to have some divisional issues in order for this to work, then it is best that it is The ACC. Certain entities within The ACC that currently have issues with The ACC divisions will be happy with this situation as the likes of Florida State, Clemson and GT will all be together in a division.

(01-03-2016 08:16 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I used to have TCU to the ACC as part of my scenario due to the obvious desire of Texas to take two rather than just one. The problem I saw in that later on though is that TCU going to the PAC might help soothe them a little to this concept as it gives them a location within the DFW metro area. If they get that then they might bite as two locations in Texas gives a lot more trips to Texas.

The ACC will still have division issues with this situation but they are used to having divisional issues so if a conference has to have some divisional issues in order for this to work, then it is best that it is The ACC. Certain entities within The ACC that currently have issues with The ACC divisions will be happy with this situation as the likes of Florida State, Clemson and GT will all be together in a division.

Texas Tech, T.C.U. and Houston would give the PAC the whole market without Texas. Then add Oklahoma State, Kansas State and Iowa State and they get a 6 school Eastern Division with a lot of Central Time Zone slots.

I still believe in Occam's Razor. Using that let's look at your scenario. Kansas will go to the Big 10. If Texas moves to the ACC as a partial and UConn moves with them as a full member along with Baylor. The SEC will land Oklahoma.

The question in my mind is who becomes the Big 10's second and who becomes the SEC's second.

The simplest thing for Oklahoma would be for the Cowboys to move with them to the SEC. That keeps Bedlam and allows them to play Texas OOC.

If Virginia Tech moved to the Big 10 that gives Delany a large market that is duplicated in the ACC. Add West Virginia to UConn & Baylor to go with Texas to the ACC and now each of the ACC, Big 10, and SEC stand at 16 full members. Texas and Notre Dame get their "special treatment".

That leaves Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech and T.C.U. free to move to the PAC.

That is a scenario that takes care of all 10 Big 12 programs, allows Oklahoma to keep both Oklahoma State and Texas on their schedule, gives Delany the markets and brands he might desire (not to mention that Virginia Tech is a lot closer to AAU status than Oklahoma), reconnects the ACC's footprint and lands them a network, and gives the PAC the most bang for their buck with markets and Central Time Zone slots.

This will be my assessment of what is to come. It involves only 1 move of present P5 members outside of the Big 12 and then it doesn't cost a conference a present market.

No matter what the make up of the 4 conferences. Wouldn't you say the goal is to get to 4 conferences with at least 16 members and the ability to have semi final conference championship games?

(01-03-2016 08:01 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  You know what? I don't know. There are a lot of scenarios and theories being tossed around on the inside....

I am sticking with my concept that I have put forward for quite awhile because it is still viable. It hasn't been made invalid by anything, in fact it has actually been made more valid by all that has happened to the big 12 AND the slight given to The PAC this year due to their cannibalization. That makes it easier to sell The PAC on not bringing in more big time programs which might only increase the internal cannibalization.

My scenario I have had for awhile is more sellable now than it has ever been in the past. I see no reason for me to veer from it now.

That doesn't mean I think it is the only viable scenario as I have also discussed other scenario's with you.

I don't think The Big Ten would be happy and agreeable with just Missouri and Kansas though, sorry. They are the ones with their contract up for renegotiation currently, the only ones. You may not like it but they have a strong hand of cards while sitting at this poker table. They certainly have a strong enough hand to not settle for Missouri and Kansas.

Refresh my memory on your scenario. Not even sure I've seen it before. I've only been on this site a few months.

(01-03-2016 09:29 PM)XLance Wrote:  No matter what the make up of the 4 conferences. Wouldn't you say the goal is to get to 4 conferences with at least 16 members and the ability to have semi final conference championship games?

Yes. That is the general plan. How we get there, well it has been known that the details would be what would be negotiated right up until the final minute.

(01-03-2016 08:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 08:16 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I used to have TCU to the ACC as part of my scenario due to the obvious desire of Texas to take two rather than just one. The problem I saw in that later on though is that TCU going to the PAC might help soothe them a little to this concept as it gives them a location within the DFW metro area. If they get that then they might bite as two locations in Texas gives a lot more trips to Texas.

The ACC will still have division issues with this situation but they are used to having divisional issues so if a conference has to have some divisional issues in order for this to work, then it is best that it is The ACC. Certain entities within The ACC that currently have issues with The ACC divisions will be happy with this situation as the likes of Florida State, Clemson and GT will all be together in a division.

Texas Tech, T.C.U. and Houston would give the PAC the whole market without Texas. Then add Oklahoma State, Kansas State and Iowa State and they get a 6 school Eastern Division with a lot of Central Time Zone slots.

I used to have Houston going to the PAC but then I figured the Ego's in The PAC might dig in on the concept of having to be the Major to take in the final Mid Major. By them getting TCU instead of Houston, they get into DFW and don't have to take the mid major. Houston doesn't fit in well with the West. DFW suits much better.

I don't see the PAC going to 18. The idea is to have the least amount of schools as possible while getting to four conferences and having conference tournaments. Sixteen still suits that number better than 18.

(01-03-2016 09:38 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 08:01 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  You know what? I don't know. There are a lot of scenarios and theories being tossed around on the inside....

I am sticking with my concept that I have put forward for quite awhile because it is still viable. It hasn't been made invalid by anything, in fact it has actually been made more valid by all that has happened to the big 12 AND the slight given to The PAC this year due to their cannibalization. That makes it easier to sell The PAC on not bringing in more big time programs which might only increase the internal cannibalization.

My scenario I have had for awhile is more sellable now than it has ever been in the past. I see no reason for me to veer from it now.

That doesn't mean I think it is the only viable scenario as I have also discussed other scenario's with you.

I don't think The Big Ten would be happy and agreeable with just Missouri and Kansas though, sorry. They are the ones with their contract up for renegotiation currently, the only ones. You may not like it but they have a strong hand of cards while sitting at this poker table. They certainly have a strong enough hand to not settle for Missouri and Kansas.

Refresh my memory on your scenario. Not even sure I've seen it before. I've only been on this site a few months.

You probably wont like it. According to JR, it is not very "kind" to The SEC but I disagree. I will show it to you but just remember, I am coming at this from a different perspective. I will further explain that after I show it to you. I will post it in a post all it's own.

(01-03-2016 09:29 PM)XLance Wrote:  No matter what the make up of the 4 conferences. Wouldn't you say the goal is to get to 4 conferences with at least 16 members and the ability to have semi final conference championship games?

Yes.

ACC:
Baylor, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State, (Texas attached here for 4 annual games)
Boston College, Connecticut, Syracuse, Virginia (Notre Dame attached here for 4 annual games)
Louisville, Miami, Pittsburgh, West Virginia
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Wake Forest

SEC:
Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky
Alabama, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Tennessee
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Texas A&M
Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Vanderbilt

Big 10:
Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers, Virginia Tech
Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue
Illinois, Northwestern, Ohio State, Wisconsin
Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska

PAC:
Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Christian, Texas Tech
Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State
California, Cal Los Angeles, Southern California, Stanford
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah

(01-03-2016 09:52 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 09:29 PM)XLance Wrote:  No matter what the make up of the 4 conferences. Wouldn't you say the goal is to get to 4 conferences with at least 16 members and the ability to have semi final conference championship games?

Yes.

ACC:
Baylor, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State, (Texas attached here for 4 annual games)
Boston College, Connecticut, Syracuse, Virginia (Notre Dame attached here for 4 annual games)
Louisville, Miami, Pittsburgh, West Virginia
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Wake Forest

SEC:
Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky
Alabama, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Tennessee
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Texas A&M
Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Vanderbilt

Big 10:
Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers, Virginia Tech
Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue
Illinois, Northwestern, Ohio State, Wisconsin
Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska

PAC:
Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Christian, Texas Tech
Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State
California, Cal Los Angeles, Southern California, Stanford
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah

Could we have Miami back please instead of UConn?

Ok, so here it is, as I have been prognosticating for a couple years now I think.


There are some conferences that prefer expansion via The ACC but that didn't work out. The best option for everyone is expansion via the dissolution of the big 12. We move to four conferences of 16 which have conference tournaments of their own instead of just championship games.

I will simply put down the structure, we can go further into details after that should it not be understood or some wish to debate it.


I see Texas moving to The ACC with a similar deal as Notre Dame. The two schools have become thick as thieves and that is a rather new development. I feel that has come from them sharing some mutual feelings about their futures, mutual feelings that very few others agree upon. I believe that belief is that their schools are capable of making it into the post season based upon their brands alone and they don't need a conference championship title in the same way that most others do. Sure, others probably could do the same but currently it is only Notre Dame that is the major challenge to the norm. I think Texas would prefer schedule flexibility instead of the usual conference route.

So, eventually Texas agrees to move to the ACC with a partial deal similar to Notre Dame. The LHN turns into The ACC Network as Disney wont allow a new Network to be launched but rebranding a mediocre property and turning it into something that will be more profitable would not just be allowed but would be appreciated by Disney. Texas receives special considerations for their programming on The ACC Network and they get a protected yearly match up against Baylor, whom comes with them to the ACC. In return for that they sign a 6 game deal with the ACC, one more than what Notre Dame signed as Notre Dame turned down a similar deal in return for protected match ups against Boston College and Pittsburgh.

As stated above, Baylor comes with them but UConn slides into the ACC as well as ESPN doesn't do the ACC Network deal unless The ACC agrees to take in UConn which is a huge boon for ESPN in the State where ESPN is headquartered.

Oklahoma goes against some of the popular belief and chooses The Big Ten instead of The SEC. Personally, I don't think The SEC will shed a tear over this. The SEC is already top heavy with brands. You add a brand of the stature of Oklahoma and who knows how much worse the hierarchy chaos in The SEC gets.

Kansas joins Oklahoma in The Big Ten

The SEC doesn't need major brands, on the contrary they need role players that help fill out particular divisions so that other major brands in the SEC can get their just due that they havnt been given in the past. I am talking about Tennessee and LSU. That should become more clear when I lay out the conference and divisional blueprints. Thus Oklahoma State and West Virginia are admitted into the SEC.

The PAC receives into their somewhat open arms the schools of TCU, Texas Tech, Kansas State and Iowa State.

Thus, with everyone being assured a landing spot, they all begrudgingly agree to cast yes votes for conference dissolution. If they don't then they are all on their own when the GoR runs out. The window for this offer will be very limited. I am of the opinion that these agreements will have to be made privately before the Rules Committee meets. The Big Ten negotiation window is upon us as well.



So here are the line ups, starting with your SEC first.


The SEC
East
Florida
Georgia
Auburn
South Carolina

Central
Alabama
Ole Miss
Miss State
Vanderbilt

West
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Oklahoma State

North
Tennessee
Missouri
Kentucky
West Virginia

This finally allows Tennessee to be the brand it should be within The SEC. It also helps out the most Northern programs by giving them their own route to the SEC Tournament which should help some in recruiting.


The Big Ten
North
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue

East
Ohio State
Penn State
Maryland
Rutgers

Central
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Northwestern
Illinois

West
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Iowa
Kansas

This gives a boost to Big Ten football as well as a boost to Big Ten basketball as they wish to keep pace with The ACC which will be garnering three more strong basketball brands in Texas, UConn and Baylor.


The PAC
West
USC
UCLA
Stanford
California

North
Oregon
Washington
Washington State
Oregon State

Central
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Colorado

East
TCU
Texas Tech
Kansas State
Iowa State



The ACC
South
Florida State
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Wake Forest

Central
North Carolina
North Carolina State
Virginia
Duke

North
Miami
Syracuse
Boston College
UConn

West
Virginia Tech
Baylor
Louisville
Pitt

Yes, there are a few kinks in the ACC set up but that is The ACC, they will get over it. It's much better than their current problems.

(01-03-2016 09:52 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 09:29 PM)XLance Wrote:  No matter what the make up of the 4 conferences. Wouldn't you say the goal is to get to 4 conferences with at least 16 members and the ability to have semi final conference championship games?

Yes.

ACC:
Baylor, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State, (Texas attached here for 4 annual games)
Boston College, Connecticut, Syracuse, Virginia (Notre Dame attached here for 4 annual games)
Louisville, Miami, Pittsburgh, West Virginia
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Wake Forest

SEC:
Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky
Alabama, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Tennessee
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Texas A&M
Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Vanderbilt

Big 10:
Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers, Virginia Tech
Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue
Illinois, Northwestern, Ohio State, Wisconsin
Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska

PAC:
Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Christian, Texas Tech
Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State
California, Cal Los Angeles, Southern California, Stanford
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah

I know Oklahoma State fans loves themselves some football, but I don't think the school could figure out how to pull off both a PAC schedule and an SEC schedule.

Today fluge said Cincy a lock and Texas will decided between Houston and UConn. BTM gets more info in middle of the month.

(01-03-2016 10:04 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 09:52 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 09:29 PM)XLance Wrote:  No matter what the make up of the 4 conferences. Wouldn't you say the goal is to get to 4 conferences with at least 16 members and the ability to have semi final conference championship games?

Yes.

ACC:
Baylor, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State, (Texas attached here for 4 annual games)
Boston College, Connecticut, Syracuse, Virginia (Notre Dame attached here for 4 annual games)
Louisville, Miami, Pittsburgh, West Virginia
Duke, North Carolina, N.C. State, Wake Forest

SEC:
Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky
Alabama, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Tennessee
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Texas A&M
Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Vanderbilt

Big 10:
Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers, Virginia Tech
Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue
Illinois, Northwestern, Ohio State, Wisconsin
Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska

PAC:
Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Christian, Texas Tech
Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State
California, Cal Los Angeles, Southern California, Stanford
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah

Could we have Miami back please instead of UConn?

You got 'em, but you still keep UConn. I had Clemson there twice.

(01-03-2016 10:13 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  Today fluge said Cincy a lock and Texas will decided between Houston and UConn. BTM gets more info in middle of the month.

Fluge does that all the time. He is a mouthpiece at best, which means sometimes he may be told the truth to tell people but more often than not he is a disinformation person at the very bottom of the ladder.