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RE: Military Bowl
IMO Narduzzi will scheme during the offseason on how to best stop the triple option since he faces it every year. If he doesn't y'all have bigger problems than that.

One thing I have noticed is that in the years we play one of the primary option FCS teams early in the season we tend to defend it better against GT later that year. I would imagine that it's the extra week of practice against the system. Perhaps Pitt needs to look at that when scheduling the FCS game each year.
12-29-2015 04:48 PM
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I'm sure Narduzzi is going to do whatever it takes to defend the triple option in the future. The guy hates losing and I've seen enough of him to give him credit on making necessary adjustments to win games.

I'm just thinking that he needs to scrap his entire defense for the most part because the principles/rules of his approach of his typical base defense are unlikely to yield good results against a good option team.
12-30-2015 02:03 PM
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(12-29-2015 04:32 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think it's going to take Narduzzi a few years to really get it going. First, he has to get his players on defense and then they need to figure out their offensive identity. Ball control in the ACC isn't going to get it done.

Why not? It works everywhere else.
12-31-2015 01:45 AM
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RE: Military Bowl
(12-31-2015 01:45 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 04:32 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think it's going to take Narduzzi a few years to really get it going. First, he has to get his players on defense and then they need to figure out their offensive identity. Ball control in the ACC isn't going to get it done.

Why not? It works everywhere else.

Because he will not be able to get the elite talent to make it work. If you look at the coaching hires made in the ACC recently, everyone is going up-tempo or spread. Unless, Pitt's D is elite, they won't be able to score enough to keep up.

The best ball control team in the ACC is Georgia Tech. It takes the stars aligning for them to have a really good year. They've had more mediocre than good years. In addition, look what happened to VT under Beamer. They wanted to be more ball control, but they couldn't keep up. Now, they've hired Fuente because they want to move to a spread offense.
12-31-2015 09:28 AM
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RE: Military Bowl
(12-31-2015 09:28 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  
(12-31-2015 01:45 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  
(12-29-2015 04:32 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think it's going to take Narduzzi a few years to really get it going. First, he has to get his players on defense and then they need to figure out their offensive identity. Ball control in the ACC isn't going to get it done.

Why not? It works everywhere else.

Because he will not be able to get the elite talent to make it work. If you look at the coaching hires made in the ACC recently, everyone is going up-tempo or spread. Unless, Pitt's D is elite, they won't be able to score enough to keep up.

The best ball control team in the ACC is Georgia Tech. It takes the stars aligning for them to have a really good year. They've had more mediocre than good years. In addition, look what happened to VT under Beamer. They wanted to be more ball control, but they couldn't keep up. Now, they've hired Fuente because they want to move to a spread offense.

To win in today's college football, it seems like you have to be able to score 50 points on a pretty consistent basis. However, you also have to be able to limit the other team with your defense (not shut them out, but limit them)
12-31-2015 10:42 AM
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Yeah, I don't agree with that theory at all. I think the best way to beat all of these up-tempo spread offenses is to be physical with them and to have a defense that can slow them down and disrupt them. If you can do that, you can definitely win because those up-tempo teams' defenses almost always stink.

If you can control the ball, you can absolutely beat them with less than elite talent. We have seen that play itself out time and again with multiple teams all over the country including Wisconsin, Stanford, Iowa, Michigan State, etc.

Two years ago, C-USA's UCF pounded mighty Baylor of the B12 in the Fiesta Bowl with that exact same approach. It can definitely work.

Pitt is going to hire a new OC in the next few weeks and I would be pretty disappointed if they went with an up-tempo spread guy. That does not mean that I want a 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy, because I don't want that either. I want a multiple, pro style approach. Someone who alternately uses tight ends, fullbacks and slot receivers. I just believe that's the best approach in football, especially combined with a fast, aggressive defense – which we will definitely have in another recruiting class or two.

But don't take my word for it. Just wait-and-see.
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12-31-2015 11:15 AM
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(12-31-2015 11:15 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Yeah, I don't agree with that theory at all. I think the best way to beat all of these up-tempo spread offenses is to be physical with them and to have a defense that can slow them down and disrupt them. If you can do that, you can definitely win because those up-tempo teams' defenses almost always stink.

If you can control the ball, you can absolutely beat them with less than elite talent. We have seen that play itself out time and again with multiple teams all over the country including Wisconsin, Stanford, Iowa, Michigan State, etc.

Two years ago, C-USA's UCF pounded mighty Baylor of the B12 in the Fiesta Bowl with that exact same approach. It can definitely work.

Pitt is going to hire a new OC in the next few weeks and I would be pretty disappointed if they went with an up-tempo spread guy. That does not mean that I want a 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy, because I don't want that either. I want a multiple, pro style approach. Someone who alternately uses tight ends, fullbacks and slot receivers. I just believe that's the best approach in football, especially combined with a fast, aggressive defense – which we will definitely have in another recruiting class or two.

But don't take my word for it. Just wait-and-see.

All of the teams you named have much better defenses than Pitt. That's why I said you need an elite D to pull it off. Those schools have it.
12-31-2015 11:24 AM
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RE: Military Bowl
(12-31-2015 11:15 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Yeah, I don't agree with that theory at all. I think the best way to beat all of these up-tempo spread offenses is to be physical with them and to have a defense that can slow them down and disrupt them. If you can do that, you can definitely win because those up-tempo teams' defenses almost always stink.

If you can control the ball, you can absolutely beat them with less than elite talent. We have seen that play itself out time and again with multiple teams all over the country including Wisconsin, Stanford, Iowa, Michigan State, etc.

Two years ago, C-USA's UCF pounded mighty Baylor of the B12 in the Fiesta Bowl with that exact same approach. It can definitely work.

Pitt is going to hire a new OC in the next few weeks and I would be pretty disappointed if they went with an up-tempo spread guy. That does not mean that I want a 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy, because I don't want that either. I want a multiple, pro style approach. Someone who alternately uses tight ends, fullbacks and slot receivers. I just believe that's the best approach in football, especially combined with a fast, aggressive defense – which we will definitely have in another recruiting class or two.

But don't take my word for it. Just wait-and-see.

AAC's UCF.
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My how the mighty have fallen at UCF.
12-31-2015 02:12 PM
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RE: Military Bowl
(12-31-2015 11:15 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Yeah, I don't agree with that theory at all. I think the best way to beat all of these up-tempo spread offenses is to be physical with them and to have a defense that can slow them down and disrupt them. If you can do that, you can definitely win because those up-tempo teams' defenses almost always stink.

If you can control the ball, you can absolutely beat them with less than elite talent. We have seen that play itself out time and again with multiple teams all over the country including Wisconsin, Stanford, Iowa, Michigan State, etc.

Two years ago, C-USA's UCF pounded mighty Baylor of the B12 in the Fiesta Bowl with that exact same approach. It can definitely work.

Pitt is going to hire a new OC in the next few weeks and I would be pretty disappointed if they went with an up-tempo spread guy. That does not mean that I want a 3 yards and a cloud of dust guy, because I don't want that either. I want a multiple, pro style approach. Someone who alternately uses tight ends, fullbacks and slot receivers. I just believe that's the best approach in football, especially combined with a fast, aggressive defense – which we will definitely have in another recruiting class or two.

But don't take my word for it. Just wait-and-see.

Sure did. With a first round draft pick at QB. They've gone 9-16 since then and have replaced that staff with someone who will run the Oregon system.
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