(01-01-2016 12:11 AM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 05:51 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 03:53 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(12-30-2015 08:14 PM)Wedge Wrote:  That's if the NCAA even allowed a school to transition directly from D-II to FBS, and it's difficult to imagine they would allow it.

Under current rules, it's not possible. The formal membership in Division I happens as follows, after the four reclassification years have been completed:

Quote: If the institution has met the reclassification criteria of this article and has complied for the four years preceding June 1 with all other requirements set forth in this bylaw, the Council shall refer the institution’s request for active Division I membership to the Board of Directors for election effective August 1 following such election.

And subdivision reclassification is clearly for a Division I member:

Quote:A member of Division I may petition to be classified in football in the Football Bowl Subdivision or the Football Championship Subdivision. ...
The chancellor or president from a Football Championship Subdivision institution that intends to petition for reclassification to the Football Bowl Subdivision, per Bylaw 20.4.2, shall submit to the national office written notice of the institution’s intention to reclassify and a completed application. The notice and application shall be received in the national office (by mail or electronic transmission) not later than June 1 two years prior to the August 1 when the institution intends to reclassify to the Football Bowl Subdivision.

So regarding:

(12-30-2015 10:21 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  The D2 to D1 transition period takes four years, with full membership in year 5. The FCS to FBS transition requires two years of being an FCS member (the second can be an FCS Transitional) and one year as an FBS Transitional. The question is, can a school start the FCS-->FBS transition while still undergoing the D2-->D1 transition?

No, they have to be a "Division I member" to apply for reclassification of subdivision, and they are not a "Division I member" until elected after successful completion of the transition.

So:
(Get invite to join Division I conference)
Years 1-4, reclassification ... successful, no infractions holding up election by the Division I Board of Directors.
Year 5, election to Div I between June 1 and August 1 (or else add another year)
(Then if they get an invite to join FBS conference during Year 5)
Year 6-7, Subdivision transition
Year 8, first year in FBS。
(So I guess it's Year 9 that they would be eligible to go bowling.)

The question is would there be a grandfather clause for a D2 to move up to FBS like West Texas A&M? They were in 1A back in the division started in late 1970s. Since they did have history playing against FBS schools for a while.

aaarrrrgggghhhhh. Kill this thread.

Too bad that my school is not at D1 level, or we could take our rivalry game on the field in football again.

(12-28-2015 02:47 PM)AntiG Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 02:38 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 02:13 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 02:01 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 01:58 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Do the other conferences CFP shares go up?

If the G5 conferences colluded to make it a G4 by all going to 16 somehow, and leaving the remainder to independence or FCS, would it be worth it? Who is in and who is out?

AAC is going nowhere because regardless of how many teams move to P5 conferences there will always be other G5 teams wanting to join.

I could see either C-USA or Sun Belt "raided to oblivion", but it would take a LOT of realignment for that to happen.

I think you've already seen the one - and only - G5 raided to oblivion: the WAC.

PAC 16 adds Oklahoma State, Kansas State, TCU and Texas Tech.

SEC 16 adds Oklahoma and West Virginia.

Big 16 adds Kansas and Connecticut.

ACC 16 adds Texas and Notre Dame.

Iowa State and Baylor go to the Mountain West or the American.

Seriously, The Big Ten is not taking UConn. It's only Big Ten haters that even attempt to pass that off as some semblance of a possibility.

Agreed. Really the only plausible scenario for the Big Ten expanding involves one or more of the following (excluding out the PAC or SEC):

Texas, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Florida State, North Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech

The conference isn't going to expand just for the sake of expanding, especially in a DMA which the BTN already has covered.

Kansas may someday get in as a "ride-along" with one of those teams, but it'll not likely get in on its own, and especially not with UConn. Same goes for UConn, which probably only would have a shot if a top target like one of Notre Dame or Texas demanded that they come in together with UConn.

DMA covered? By Rutgers?

(01-01-2016 10:05 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 02:47 PM)AntiG Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 02:38 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 02:13 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(12-28-2015 02:01 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  AAC is going nowhere because regardless of how many teams move to P5 conferences there will always be other G5 teams wanting to join.

I could see either C-USA or Sun Belt "raided to oblivion", but it would take a LOT of realignment for that to happen.

I think you've already seen the one - and only - G5 raided to oblivion: the WAC.

PAC 16 adds Oklahoma State, Kansas State, TCU and Texas Tech.

SEC 16 adds Oklahoma and West Virginia.

Big 16 adds Kansas and Connecticut.

ACC 16 adds Texas and Notre Dame.

Iowa State and Baylor go to the Mountain West or the American.

Seriously, The Big Ten is not taking UConn. It's only Big Ten haters that even attempt to pass that off as some semblance of a possibility.

Agreed. Really the only plausible scenario for the Big Ten expanding involves one or more of the following (excluding out the PAC or SEC):

Texas, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Florida State, North Carolina, Duke, Georgia Tech

The conference isn't going to expand just for the sake of expanding, especially in a DMA which the BTN already has covered.

Kansas may someday get in as a "ride-along" with one of those teams, but it'll not likely get in on its own, and especially not with UConn. Same goes for UConn, which probably only would have a shot if a top target like one of Notre Dame or Texas demanded that they come in together with UConn.

DMA covered? By Rutgers?

Yes. Rutgers got the BTN into the NYC DMA by simply being the one of the two FBS schools within the NYC DMA (Army is the other). Its not specifically about how many eyes in NYC are watching (no one is saying that Rutgers is getting a crazy following in NYC, although RU, Penn State and ND are the top college football followings in the city), but whether the network could get in as a channel in all of the local cable companies, which it accomplished in NYC, Westchester, LI and NJ by adding Rutgers. Hence why the DMA is covered. Adding a UConn won't particularly benefit the B1G conference strategically based on their current direction (targeting new major tv/recruiting areas and/or "franchise players" in college football + being AAU unless they cover both of those criteria like a Notre Dame, FSU or Oklahoma).