So what happens when the Cable system is Gone, and it is all Internet which is where it is heading, and even ESPN knows it....All these P5 better grab the money while they can because once the Cable system is gone it WILL become a more even playing field....AAC should work on creating a AAC Network for Live Streaming and putting more and more content on the Net...Create a Sports Live channel for the Internet and begin working towards the future of where sports and everything in general is heading.....Thoughts....No Limits....The World Is Ours Memphis...

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(12-27-2015 01:29 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  So what happens when the Cable system is Gone, and it is all Internet which is where it is heading, and even ESPN knows it....All these P5 better grab the money while they can because once the Cable system is gone it WILL become a more even playing field....AAC should work on creating a AAC Network for Live Streaming and putting more and more content on the Net...Create a Sports Live channel for the Internet and begin working towards the future of where sports and everything in general is heading.....Thoughts....No Limits....The World Is Ours Memphis...

Cable and Satellite will never be gone. While internet is taking a larger part of the market. The limits on data will prevent them from eliminating the cable and satellite industry. The infrastructure is not in place to handle the amount of data that would be needed to do so and If/when it is in place the cost will be out of reach to too many in the market. My internet plans provides for 350 Gigs a month and it is easy to go over that limit when there are numerous Tiger games in a month which air on ESPN3. To truly eliminate Cable and Satellite you will be needing affordable plans for the masses which provide at least a Terabyte per month of data. If not unlimited data.

(12-27-2015 02:25 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 01:29 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  So what happens when the Cable system is Gone, and it is all Internet which is where it is heading, and even ESPN knows it....All these P5 better grab the money while they can because once the Cable system is gone it WILL become a more even playing field....AAC should work on creating a AAC Network for Live Streaming and putting more and more content on the Net...Create a Sports Live channel for the Internet and begin working towards the future of where sports and everything in general is heading.....Thoughts....No Limits....The World Is Ours Memphis...

Cable and Satellite will never be gone. While internet is taking a larger part of the market. The limits on data will prevent them from eliminating the cable and satellite industry. The infrastructure is not in place to handle the amount of data that would be needed to do so and If/when it is in place the cost will be out of reach to too many in the market. My internet plans provides for 350 Gigs a month and it is easy to go over that limit when there are numerous Tiger games in a month which air on ESPN3. To truly eliminate Cable and Satellite you will be needing affordable plans for the masses which provide at least a Terabyte per month of data. If not unlimited data.

Infrastructure is there, bandwidth is there, the companies in charge have a serious conflict of interest though. The main internet providers also have heavy investments in Cable TV. The cable companies are starting to put caps in place not due to bandwidth issues, they are doing this to protect they primary investment because they know anyone using that much data is either Torrenting or watching video online and they don't like either.

And FYI watching every tiger game in a month will not push you anywhere near 350 GB

We better be worried about this since TC has gone on record as saying we're definitely getting into the B12.

(12-27-2015 02:25 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 01:29 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  So what happens when the Cable system is Gone, and it is all Internet which is where it is heading, and even ESPN knows it....All these P5 better grab the money while they can because once the Cable system is gone it WILL become a more even playing field....AAC should work on creating a AAC Network for Live Streaming and putting more and more content on the Net...Create a Sports Live channel for the Internet and begin working towards the future of where sports and everything in general is heading.....Thoughts....No Limits....The World Is Ours Memphis...

Cable and Satellite will never be gone. While internet is taking a larger part of the market. The limits on data will prevent them from eliminating the cable and satellite industry. The infrastructure is not in place to handle the amount of data that would be needed to do so and If/when it is in place the cost will be out of reach to too many in the market. My internet plans provides for 350 Gigs a month and it is easy to go over that limit when there are numerous Tiger games in a month which air on ESPN3. To truly eliminate Cable and Satellite you will be needing affordable plans for the masses which provide at least a Terabyte per month of data. If not unlimited data.

Sorry, every cable in every home and every satellite/cell phone feed for that matter has all the giga-doodles needed, may need a few more towers/satellites/fiber optics, but its all there or you couldn't pay extra to get it.

And saying something will never be gone is, well,

Its going there, more and more people are doing away with cable and just using the internet for shows movies and it will get there, just a matter of time....No Limits....The World Is Ours Memphis....

It doesn't matter what the delivery channel is. It's the content that is valuable. If cable goes away, content providers will move to whatever replaces it. And I wouldn't be sure it will produce a more level playing field. Content that is accessible is not the same as content that is desired. The AAC problem is not that they don't have a means to get their content out there - it's a matter of not having enough eyes who want to view it.

(12-27-2015 02:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 02:25 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 01:29 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  So what happens when the Cable system is Gone, and it is all Internet which is where it is heading, and even ESPN knows it....All these P5 better grab the money while they can because once the Cable system is gone it WILL become a more even playing field....AAC should work on creating a AAC Network for Live Streaming and putting more and more content on the Net...Create a Sports Live channel for the Internet and begin working towards the future of where sports and everything in general is heading.....Thoughts....No Limits....The World Is Ours Memphis...

Cable and Satellite will never be gone. While internet is taking a larger part of the market. The limits on data will prevent them from eliminating the cable and satellite industry. The infrastructure is not in place to handle the amount of data that would be needed to do so and If/when it is in place the cost will be out of reach to too many in the market. My internet plans provides for 350 Gigs a month and it is easy to go over that limit when there are numerous Tiger games in a month which air on ESPN3. To truly eliminate Cable and Satellite you will be needing affordable plans for the masses which provide at least a Terabyte per month of data. If not unlimited data.

Infrastructure is there, bandwidth is there, the companies in charge have a serious conflict of interest though. The main internet providers also have heavy investments in Cable TV. The cable companies are starting to put caps in place not due to bandwidth issues, they are doing this to protect they primary investment because they know anyone using that much data is either Torrenting or watching video online and they don't like either.

And FYI watching every tiger game in a month will not push you anywhere near 350 GB

You start viewing online the amount you view on cable or satellite on a daily basis 350 gigs won't come near being enough to cover your usage. When you start streaming two or three football games a day on the weekend. Then your usual TV viewing each day. You eat up data very quickly. Have surpassed 350 gigs at least twice this year when streaming sporting events not available by my provider.

Think some of you have forgotten how many times the Tigers games have been hard to stream due to the number of people trying to stream the games. Not a road game thread for a game on ESPN3 which did not have people complaining the game would not stream correctly.

Drop by an IMSA community board. Many providers did not carry FS2 on their normal tier package and the IMSA crowd beeeetched heavily how difficult it was to get the streaming to work correctly for Lemans due to high traffic.loads.

Before cable and satellite disappear they will wake up and offer ala carte programming. That would beat the hell out of watching/streaming from a PC to TV.

I can stream from my iPhone to my Vizio to watch Netflix and that is a feature that has been handy a time or two.

But sports will always be an entirely different issue. That's where the ala carte will help conferences like AAC.

(12-27-2015 04:27 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 02:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 02:25 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 01:29 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  So what happens when the Cable system is Gone, and it is all Internet which is where it is heading, and even ESPN knows it....All these P5 better grab the money while they can because once the Cable system is gone it WILL become a more even playing field....AAC should work on creating a AAC Network for Live Streaming and putting more and more content on the Net...Create a Sports Live channel for the Internet and begin working towards the future of where sports and everything in general is heading.....Thoughts....No Limits....The World Is Ours Memphis...

Cable and Satellite will never be gone. While internet is taking a larger part of the market. The limits on data will prevent them from eliminating the cable and satellite industry. The infrastructure is not in place to handle the amount of data that would be needed to do so and If/when it is in place the cost will be out of reach to too many in the market. My internet plans provides for 350 Gigs a month and it is easy to go over that limit when there are numerous Tiger games in a month which air on ESPN3. To truly eliminate Cable and Satellite you will be needing affordable plans for the masses which provide at least a Terabyte per month of data. If not unlimited data.

Infrastructure is there, bandwidth is there, the companies in charge have a serious conflict of interest though. The main internet providers also have heavy investments in Cable TV. The cable companies are starting to put caps in place not due to bandwidth issues, they are doing this to protect they primary investment because they know anyone using that much data is either Torrenting or watching video online and they don't like either.

And FYI watching every tiger game in a month will not push you anywhere near 350 GB

You start viewing online the amount you view on cable or satellite on a daily basis 350 gigs won't come near being enough to cover your usage. When you start streaming two or three football games a day on the weekend. Then your usual TV viewing each day. You eat up data very quickly. Have surpassed 350 gigs at least twice this year when streaming sporting events not available by my provider.

Think some of you have forgotten how many times the Tigers games have been hard to stream due to the number of people trying to stream the games. Not a road game thread for a game on ESPN3 which did not have people complaining the game would not stream correctly.

Drop by an IMSA community board. Many providers did not carry FS2 on their normal tier package and the IMSA crowd beeeetched heavily how difficult it was to get the streaming to work correctly for Lemans due to high traffic.loads.

I agree that streaming everything would go over 350, but streaming tiger games would come nowhere close (the bolded portion above).

And the streaming issues I doubt has anything to do with number of people on the line since every PC doesn't get an individual stream...It is more like a broadcast.

But you are correct that it will take a long time before Cable will go away because Cable companies will not allow it and they control the last mile to peoples homes. Heck, they have been trying to be able to create Class of Service (throttling) of different types of traffic to slow the speed of downloading as they see fit.

No doubt cord-cutting is the buzz and cable companies are losing video customers. That said, when you run the numbers, unless you are a casual TV watcher that isn't interested in sports, it's rarely worth the hassles. When you pay the multiple monthlies to get decent "apples-for-apples" coverage with Hulu+, Netflix, Amazon, SlingTV (for ESPN) etc - combined with the broadband you need anyway, I'm not able to create a "worth it" ROI. And I've tried. I can come up with something that's maybe $10-15/month cheaper, but that's not worth it for the total lack of integration and immaturity of the viewing/end-user ecosystem (hassles). Also, and this isn't a minor point, with the 300GB/month Comcast data caps now (coming to others too), streaming HD content is concerning (about 1.6GB/hour ... average American consumes 5 hours of live TV per day, 233GB/month for just 1 person). These cable companies have multi-billion $ businesses and are spending every waking hour make sure they remain viable and stockholders happy ... and they uniquely own the cable-in-the-ground that can provide those broadband speeds for HD content. That is a significant barrier to entry.

Thread of the year. TC never disappoints

For cell companies, traffic on networks can be an issue....for fiber optics, it's not. Ever change your internet speed? Did they dig a new line to make it happen? No. The infrastructure is already there for data.

The caps are simply a grab for more revenue. There's actually petitions you can sign to try to change this as it is simply an unfair practice to consumers.

It's akin to paying extra if your family watches more TV than the neighbors even if you're on the same channel plan.

(12-28-2015 12:22 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  For cell companies, traffic on networks can be an issue....for fiber optics, it's not. Ever change your internet speed? Did they dig a new line to make it happen? No. The infrastructure is already there for data.

The caps are simply a grab for more revenue. There's actually petitions you can sign to try to change this as it is simply an unfair practice to consumers.

It's akin to paying extra if your family watches more TV than the neighbors even if you're on the same channel plan.

I am an old telecom guy from the 70s to now. There has always been bandwidth, even if they had to multiplex phone/data over copper and decode it on the far end or send it via microwave. But there are still a lot of areas that need fiber and new switchboxes even though the Central Offices are all up to speed with the latest and greatest.

My neighborhood has AT&T land and DSL but we cannot get U-Verse because there are only 30 houses in the subdivision and that isn't enough to recover their cost of tunneling under a railroad track. Fiber is running along "the other" side of the BNSF railroad track less than 200 yards from our house.

I was a communications major at Memphis and we talked about the imminent demise of cable then...1981.

(12-27-2015 07:29 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  No doubt cord-cutting is the buzz and cable companies are losing video customers. That said, when you run the numbers, unless you are a casual TV watcher that isn't interested in sports, it's rarely worth the hassles. When you pay the multiple monthlies to get decent "apples-for-apples" coverage with Hulu+, Netflix, Amazon, SlingTV (for ESPN) etc - combined with the broadband you need anyway, I'm not able to create a "worth it" ROI. And I've tried. I can come up with something that's maybe $10-15/month cheaper, but that's not worth it for the total lack of integration and immaturity of the viewing/end-user ecosystem (hassles). Also, and this isn't a minor point, with the 300GB/month Comcast data caps now (coming to others too), streaming HD content is concerning (about 1.6GB/hour ... average American consumes 5 hours of live TV per day, 233GB/month for just 1 person). These cable companies have multi-billion $ businesses and are spending every waking hour make sure they remain viable and stockholders happy ... and they uniquely own the cable-in-the-ground that can provide those broadband speeds for HD content. That is a significant barrier to entry.

I went to digital cable (Sling TV) and cut my bill by about $60 per month.

She leaves.

Of more importance is what happens to this board when the mothership comes to claim TC, and he is gone? It is happening...the world will be ours...no limits...truth.

(12-28-2015 04:19 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 07:29 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  No doubt cord-cutting is the buzz and cable companies are losing video customers. That said, when you run the numbers, unless you are a casual TV watcher that isn't interested in sports, it's rarely worth the hassles. When you pay the multiple monthlies to get decent "apples-for-apples" coverage with Hulu+, Netflix, Amazon, SlingTV (for ESPN) etc - combined with the broadband you need anyway, I'm not able to create a "worth it" ROI. And I've tried. I can come up with something that's maybe $10-15/month cheaper, but that's not worth it for the total lack of integration and immaturity of the viewing/end-user ecosystem (hassles). Also, and this isn't a minor point, with the 300GB/month Comcast data caps now (coming to others too), streaming HD content is concerning (about 1.6GB/hour ... average American consumes 5 hours of live TV per day, 233GB/month for just 1 person). These cable companies have multi-billion $ businesses and are spending every waking hour make sure they remain viable and stockholders happy ... and they uniquely own the cable-in-the-ground that can provide those broadband speeds for HD content. That is a significant barrier to entry.

I went to digital cable (Sling TV) and cut my bill by about $60 per month.

If sling would offer multiple devices I think it would definitely be worth the money.