The South Florida and San Diego State games were disasters...

After hearing about the injuries and that the flu ran through the team
before the USF game.. The flu situation was so bad, that players were wearing masks on the flight to Florida and one went to the hospital the morning of the game,, I thought,, maybe it was the perfect storm of bad luck.. Then,, we came back and beat ECU on the road, on senior day, in a must win for bowl eligibility game... I thought,,, ok,, maybe,, South Florida was a fluke.. We had been in every game this year.. Our problem seemed to be with turnovers, interceptions and penalties.. I'm thinking,, those things can be fixed... But,,, then we come out totally flat in the bowl game... How does that happen.. I didn't think that Gunner not playing would be a big factor.. We had Eddie Gran going to Kentucky,, but I didn't that would be that big of deal.. So,,,, why did the wheels come off..
I just don't know what could cause a team to fall apart in a bowl game like we did...

Something happening behind the scenes. Not sure if the players had given up or what. The ECU win was nice but ECU isn't a good team. We could get by with talent that day. We'll probably never know the real answer.

In a lot of ways this group never recovered from the loss to Temple or Memphis. If one of those game breaks UC way, who knows if the season would have been much better. The coaching staff has to take the blame for the Temple game but the officials outright robbed UC in Memphis.

(12-27-2015 01:42 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  In a lot of ways this group never recovered from the loss to Temple or Memphis. If one of those game breaks UC way, who knows if the season would have been much better. The coaching staff has to take the blame for the Temple game but the officials outright robbed UC in Memphis.

I think it was when Tubs quit against BYU. A couple of players tweeted their disgust with that call.

Bottom line this staff lost the players somewhere along the way. Once the team turns on a staff there is no turning back.

(12-27-2015 01:52 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 01:42 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  In a lot of ways this group never recovered from the loss to Temple or Memphis. If one of those game breaks UC way, who knows if the season would have been much better. The coaching staff has to take the blame for the Temple game but the officials outright robbed UC in Memphis.

I think it was when Tubs quit against BYU. A couple of players tweeted their disgust with that call.

Bottom line this staff lost the players somewhere along the way. Once the team turns on a staff there is no turning back.

This. The team never played the same after the BYU loss.

(12-27-2015 01:56 PM)back2vinyl Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 01:52 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 01:42 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  In a lot of ways this group never recovered from the loss to Temple or Memphis. If one of those game breaks UC way, who knows if the season would have been much better. The coaching staff has to take the blame for the Temple game but the officials outright robbed UC in Memphis.

I think it was when Tubs quit against BYU. A couple of players tweeted their disgust with that call.

Bottom line this staff lost the players somewhere along the way. Once the team turns on a staff there is no turning back.

This. The team never played the same after the BYU loss.

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I thought we played good against Houston....... Still,,, to many turnovers and penalties... There was a bad call when it appeared we
stopped them late in the game... Bad calls were a factor in (2) games this year...

We underahieved in every game except memphis, byu, miami and ecu. All the other games consisted of special teams snafus, penalties and turnovers. We were terribly coached in most games. Very enlightening to read the opinions of the texas tech fans. They say that he had no dealings with the team except recruiting. He provides zero leadeership. I cannot see this team successful with flubs.

(12-27-2015 02:41 PM)rosewater Wrote:  We underahieved in every game except memphis, byu, miami and ecu. All the other games consisted of special teams snafus, penalties and turnovers. We were terribly coached in most games. Very enlightening to read the opinions of the texas tech fans. They say that he had no dealings with the team except recruiting. He provides zero leadeership. I cannot see this team successful with flubs.

He's absolutely lost this team. And it's his roster. These are the guys he brought in. Firing the annual sacrificial staff members again in January will not change the fact that there is a leadership void.

(12-27-2015 03:56 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 02:41 PM)rosewater Wrote:  We underahieved in every game except memphis, byu, miami and ecu. All the other games consisted of special teams snafus, penalties and turnovers. We were terribly coached in most games. Very enlightening to read the opinions of the texas tech fans. They say that he had no dealings with the team except recruiting. He provides zero leadeership. I cannot see this team successful with flubs.

He's absolutely lost this team. And it's his roster. These are the guys he brought in. Firing the annual sacrificial staff members again in January will not change the fact that there is a leadership void.

There are some cases where that CEO style would work, but the irony is, guys in those situations still don't take that approach. Saban could do it, but doesn't. Urban could, but doesn't. For it to work, you need an extremely strong staff and the ability to recruit elite level talent, both assistant coaches and players. UC has neither.

I am not in the camp that believes Tubs doesn't have the ability, his record as a coach proves he does. I do think, however, that he no longer has the drive. It happens to the best of em, I think he's become the guy that should have retired already and hangs on too long. If he likes kicking back and playing golf, fine. Go play it, he's made enough money that I am sure he's set for life, but don't screw over a program at a critical time because your ego is to big to admit it's time to let go.

(12-27-2015 04:50 PM)Kenyon#4 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 03:56 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 02:41 PM)rosewater Wrote:  We underahieved in every game except memphis, byu, miami and ecu. All the other games consisted of special teams snafus, penalties and turnovers. We were terribly coached in most games. Very enlightening to read the opinions of the texas tech fans. They say that he had no dealings with the team except recruiting. He provides zero leadeership. I cannot see this team successful with flubs.

He's absolutely lost this team. And it's his roster. These are the guys he brought in. Firing the annual sacrificial staff members again in January will not change the fact that there is a leadership void.

There are some cases where that CEO style would work, but the irony is, guys in those situations still don't take that approach. Saban could do it, but doesn't. Urban could, but doesn't. For it to work, you need an extremely strong staff and the ability to recruit elite level talent, both assistant coaches and players. UC has neither.

I am not in the camp that believes Tubs doesn't have the ability, his record as a coach proves he does. I do think, however, that he no longer has the drive. It happens to the best of em, I think he's become the guy that should have retired already and hangs on too long. If he likes kicking back and playing golf, fine. Go play it, he's made enough money that I am sure he's set for life, but don't screw over a program at a critical time because your ego is to big to admit it's time to let go.

This is exactly how i feel. Screwed over! Stupid crony will not let it go due to greed and ego.

(12-27-2015 01:14 PM)KCat Wrote:  The South Florida and San Diego State games were disasters...

After hearing about the injuries and that the flu ran through the team
before the USF game.. The flu situation was so bad, that players were wearing masks on the flight to Florida and one went to the hospital the morning of the game,, I thought,, maybe it was the perfect storm of bad luck.. Then,, we came back and beat ECU on the road, on senior day, in a must win for bowl eligibility game... I thought,,, ok,, maybe,, South Florida was a fluke.. We had been in every game this year.. Our problem seemed to be with turnovers, interceptions and penalties.. I'm thinking,, those things can be fixed... But,,, then we come out totally flat in the bowl game... How does that happen.. I didn't think that Gunner not playing would be a big factor.. We had Eddie Gran going to Kentucky,, but I didn't that would be that big of deal.. So,,,, why did the wheels come off..
I just don't know what could cause a team to fall apart in a bowl game like we did...

Flu ran through the team prior to the USF game? C'mon. there's a vaccine for that.

Two really bad games? Which season? I would say this year 4 games qualify to add Temple and BYU.

(12-27-2015 05:25 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 01:14 PM)KCat Wrote:  The South Florida and San Diego State games were disasters...

After hearing about the injuries and that the flu ran through the team
before the USF game.. The flu situation was so bad, that players were wearing masks on the flight to Florida and one went to the hospital the morning of the game,, I thought,, maybe it was the perfect storm of bad luck.. Then,, we came back and beat ECU on the road, on senior day, in a must win for bowl eligibility game... I thought,,, ok,, maybe,, South Florida was a fluke.. We had been in every game this year.. Our problem seemed to be with turnovers, interceptions and penalties.. I'm thinking,, those things can be fixed... But,,, then we come out totally flat in the bowl game... How does that happen.. I didn't think that Gunner not playing would be a big factor.. We had Eddie Gran going to Kentucky,, but I didn't that would be that big of deal.. So,,,, why did the wheels come off..
I just don't know what could cause a team to fall apart in a bowl game like we did...

Flu ran through the team prior to the USF game? C'mon. there's a vaccine for that.

Only if they all get it in advance.

(12-27-2015 01:14 PM)KCat Wrote:  ....

So,,,, why did the wheels come off..
I just don't know what could cause a team to fall apart in a bowl game like we did...

Likely the same thing that allowed the team to fall apart in bowl games in Charlotte and Annapolis the 2 prior years.

0-3 in Bowl games. 0-3 in conference openers. Needs 4th quarter save every season against Miami Ohio. At least one awful blowout performance per season. Winning season every year. 1 Conference Championship. One game a year where it looks like the team has it together. Overall an unprepared team that underachieves most of the season but does enough to stay on the winning side against bad teams.