(12-27-2015 04:42 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-26-2015 10:47 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-26-2015 07:29 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Good for Duke. First Bowl game win since 1961. 1961.

I'm starting to understand what that feels like. 2012...and counting....

I looked back to UC bowl game history and Tubs has the distinction as the only UC coach outside of Rick Minter to lose three bowl games in a row. Minter lost the 2000 and 2001 Motor City Bowls and the 2002 New Orleans Bowl. Scary thing is Coach has a shot to lose 4 in a row. Just another reason to extend him...

To be fair, we've only been to 17 bowls total (14 since 1997) and all but three of the coaches (Minter, Kelly, and Tuberville) who coached in those bowls left before their would-be third appearance, Kelly is there only due to his coaching of the International Bowl after Dantonio left, so it's not like there are a lot of coaches to choose from for that distinction. I mean, people don't really think about it, but Jones and Dantonio only coached in one bowl game each for UC

(12-27-2015 05:46 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 04:42 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-26-2015 10:47 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-26-2015 07:29 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Good for Duke. First Bowl game win since 1961. 1961.

I'm starting to understand what that feels like. 2012...and counting....

I looked back to UC bowl game history and Tubs has the distinction as the only UC coach outside of Rick Minter to lose three bowl games in a row. Minter lost the 2000 and 2001 Motor City Bowls and the 2002 New Orleans Bowl. Scary thing is Coach has a shot to lose 4 in a row. Just another reason to extend him...

To be fair, we've only been to 17 bowls total (14 since 1997) and all but three of the coaches (Minter, Kelly, and Tuberville) who coached in those bowls left before their would-be third appearance, Kelly is there only due to his coaching of the International Bowl after Dantonio left, so it's not like there are a lot of coaches to choose from for that distinction. I mean, people don't really think about it, but Jones and Dantonio only coached in one bowl game each for UC

????? So we're making another excuse for Tubs' failures? Not sure what you feel is funny. Of the 17 bowl game appearances, two coaches are responsible for 6 of the 9 losses. What is really sad is Tubs has only been the coach for three years.

(12-27-2015 06:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 05:46 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 04:42 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-26-2015 10:47 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(12-26-2015 07:29 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Good for Duke. First Bowl game win since 1961. 1961.

I'm starting to understand what that feels like. 2012...and counting....

I looked back to UC bowl game history and Tubs has the distinction as the only UC coach outside of Rick Minter to lose three bowl games in a row. Minter lost the 2000 and 2001 Motor City Bowls and the 2002 New Orleans Bowl. Scary thing is Coach has a shot to lose 4 in a row. Just another reason to extend him...

To be fair, we've only been to 17 bowls total (14 since 1997) and all but three of the coaches (Minter, Kelly, and Tuberville) who coached in those bowls left before their would-be third appearance, Kelly is there only due to his coaching of the International Bowl after Dantonio left, so it's not like there are a lot of coaches to choose from for that distinction. I mean, people don't really think about it, but Jones and Dantonio only coached in one bowl game each for UC

????? So we're making another excuse for Tubs' failures? Not sure what you feel is funny. Of the 17 bowl game appearances, two coaches are responsible for 6 of the 9 losses. What is really sad is Tubs has only been the coach for three years.

Not so much an excuse, but just that you have to be careful with statistics.

Minter was the winningest coach in UC history. And the biggest loser. Time bends light, and stats.

(12-27-2015 07:22 PM)Bearcat85 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 06:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 05:46 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 04:42 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-26-2015 10:47 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  I'm starting to understand what that feels like. 2012...and counting....

I looked back to UC bowl game history and Tubs has the distinction as the only UC coach outside of Rick Minter to lose three bowl games in a row. Minter lost the 2000 and 2001 Motor City Bowls and the 2002 New Orleans Bowl. Scary thing is Coach has a shot to lose 4 in a row. Just another reason to extend him...

To be fair, we've only been to 17 bowls total (14 since 1997) and all but three of the coaches (Minter, Kelly, and Tuberville) who coached in those bowls left before their would-be third appearance, Kelly is there only due to his coaching of the International Bowl after Dantonio left, so it's not like there are a lot of coaches to choose from for that distinction. I mean, people don't really think about it, but Jones and Dantonio only coached in one bowl game each for UC

????? So we're making another excuse for Tubs' failures? Not sure what you feel is funny. Of the 17 bowl game appearances, two coaches are responsible for 6 of the 9 losses. What is really sad is Tubs has only been the coach for three years.

Not so much an excuse, but just that you have to be careful with statistics.

Minter was the winningest coach in UC history. And the biggest loser. Time bends light, and stats.

Except that in this case we are talking about UC bowl records only. Has Tommy won a bowl game yet? He's 0-3 in a row.

(12-27-2015 07:30 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 07:22 PM)Bearcat85 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 06:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 05:46 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 04:42 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I looked back to UC bowl game history and Tubs has the distinction as the only UC coach outside of Rick Minter to lose three bowl games in a row. Minter lost the 2000 and 2001 Motor City Bowls and the 2002 New Orleans Bowl. Scary thing is Coach has a shot to lose 4 in a row. Just another reason to extend him...

To be fair, we've only been to 17 bowls total (14 since 1997) and all but three of the coaches (Minter, Kelly, and Tuberville) who coached in those bowls left before their would-be third appearance, Kelly is there only due to his coaching of the International Bowl after Dantonio left, so it's not like there are a lot of coaches to choose from for that distinction. I mean, people don't really think about it, but Jones and Dantonio only coached in one bowl game each for UC

????? So we're making another excuse for Tubs' failures? Not sure what you feel is funny. Of the 17 bowl game appearances, two coaches are responsible for 6 of the 9 losses. What is really sad is Tubs has only been the coach for three years.

Not so much an excuse, but just that you have to be careful with statistics.

Minter was the winningest coach in UC history. And the biggest loser. Time bends light, and stats.

Except that in this case we are talking about UC bowl records only. Has Tommy won a bowl game yet? He's 0-3 in a row.

Which is what Minter was after 3 bowl games. So he hasn't taken the crown yet. I'm not happy, but don't think we should anoint him biggest loser yet either.

With what Minter had to work with in terms of facilities and resources, his 0-3 makes Tubby's look like 0-15.

I dunno... Murphy turned the corner and left a program headed in the right direction. Minter clearly was not able to help the program along, though he didn't do us any harm either.

I give the Minter years a good, solid " C+."

I'll give Tuberville an "incomplete," but I'm also afraid that he's so far behind the curve I don't see him coming out ahead... But "Bill and Ted", you know...

(12-27-2015 08:39 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I dunno... Murphy turned the corner and left a program headed in the right direction. Minter clearly was not able to help the program along, though he didn't do us any harm either.

I give the Minter years a good, solid " C+."

I'll give Tuberville an "incomplete," but I'm also afraid that he's so far behind the curve I don't see him coming out ahead... But "Bill and Ted", you know...

If you look at Tuberville's overall record it grades out to around a B- but his losses should be worth more when you dig deeper into the blowouts and 0 for conference openers and bowl games. In my view Tuberville and Minter are pretty much a wash at this point. Odd that UC in C-USA and the American look like twins while the Big East Bearcats looked a whole lot different.

(12-27-2015 08:06 PM)Bearcat85 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 07:30 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 07:22 PM)Bearcat85 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 06:50 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(12-27-2015 05:46 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  To be fair, we've only been to 17 bowls total (14 since 1997) and all but three of the coaches (Minter, Kelly, and Tuberville) who coached in those bowls left before their would-be third appearance, Kelly is there only due to his coaching of the International Bowl after Dantonio left, so it's not like there are a lot of coaches to choose from for that distinction. I mean, people don't really think about it, but Jones and Dantonio only coached in one bowl game each for UC

????? So we're making another excuse for Tubs' failures? Not sure what you feel is funny. Of the 17 bowl game appearances, two coaches are responsible for 6 of the 9 losses. What is really sad is Tubs has only been the coach for three years.

Not so much an excuse, but just that you have to be careful with statistics.

Minter was the winningest coach in UC history. And the biggest loser. Time bends light, and stats.

Except that in this case we are talking about UC bowl records only. Has Tommy won a bowl game yet? He's 0-3 in a row.

Which is what Minter was after 3 bowl games. So he hasn't taken the crown yet. I'm not happy, but don't think we should anoint him biggest loser yet either.

Actually, Minter won the 1997 Humanitarian Bowl before he went on the 0 for 3 streak. Again, I stated that other than Minter, TT is the only UC coach to have the distinction and he has a chance (a good one in my estimation) to be the only 0 for 4 coach. I'm not a TT apologist - not that you are either - but I think defending the man that he still isn't the WORST in bowls is pretty telling in of itself.

I can get behind this effort from Navy. Whooping Pitt 28-7 with Reynolds becoming all-time FBS rushing leader for a QB.

What an impressive drive by Navy. Pitt is surging back, gets a TO and TD, is getting 3rd down stops but Navy converts two 4th downs and scores a TD. Stout drive!

(12-28-2015 04:45 PM)FenderCat Wrote:  I can get behind this effort from Navy. Whooping Pitt 28-7 with Reynolds becoming all-time FBS rushing leader for a QB.

That's the first Bowl matchup where the AAC team was clearly the better team going in. Really the AAC had a solid year and drew the best teams from other G5 conferences. I think USF and WKU were fairly equal (WKU probably a bit better and won, WKU was clearly the best in CUSA)... I thought thought Temple and Toledo were fairly even (Toledo was the best team in the MAC despite not winning it)..other than that I thought the matchups weren't good for the league. UC has fallen apart and drew a team that was peaking and ran through the Mountain West, UConn just isn't that good (abysmal on offense) and Tulsa while improved on offense was a **** show on defense (honestly impressed with how they played against VT).

Memphis is better than Auburn as well, but the coaching change makes a win less likely. Houston is going to have a tough time with an underappreciated FSU squad.

Navy is a very good team; should have beaten Houston.

Still, UC vs. SDSU has been ranked so far as the second worst bowl game this year, of the 25 that have already been played.

Screw it. I'm rooting for Houston.

(12-31-2015 12:08 PM)back2vinyl Wrote:  Screw it. I'm rooting for Houston.

FSU down to QB #3 so UH should win.

(12-31-2015 12:54 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 12:08 PM)back2vinyl Wrote:  Screw it. I'm rooting for Houston.

FSU down to QB #3 so UH should win.

Looks like Houston is going to blow out Florida State.

(12-31-2015 12:08 PM)back2vinyl Wrote:  Screw it. I'm rooting for Houston.

Me too.

Maybe we can be like them some day.

Houston is showing what an aggressive defense and creative offensive play calling can do for a team. Maybe Tuberville is watching and learning something.

(12-31-2015 01:37 PM)OneUChoopsfan Wrote:  

(12-31-2015 12:08 PM)back2vinyl Wrote:  Screw it. I'm rooting for Houston.

Me too.

Maybe we can be like them some day.

We were once, but our head coach left before the bowl game.

Ward is so solid. This is a big one if they can finish. FSU, ranked #9.