Ewglenn
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
(12-22-2015 08:26 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (12-22-2015 08:16 AM)Ewglenn Wrote: Lol I love it, you guys think this confernce is the greatest thig ever. Then when one of the top four teams (6-2 conference record is 4th best) gets beat by a cusa team you play it down. Plain and simple they lost and you guys better hope to god UCONN wins if not the cusa faithful will really let yall have it.
Why are Clemson and Louisville fans so obsessed with posting about UCONN...? Weird obsession. You should seek therapy or perhaps invite the other addicts to group with you....
Just saying if yall don't want to hear this stuff yall better beat Marshall. Because if not this thread will get much more interesting.
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12-22-2015 08:35 AM |
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Jayesseagle
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There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
(12-21-2015 11:21 PM)GreenWave16 Wrote: (12-21-2015 10:14 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: No...The top teams in CUSA are pretty much equal to most of the AAC teams. The top of the AAC are clearly better...but...not by a huge margin. "Any given Saturday"
Negative, this year UCF, Tulane, and Tulsa would absolutely crush WKU, USM, and Marshall. The AAC is just that tough of a league.
I love your jokes. You just crack me up... . You are hilarious, GreenWave16!
(This post was last modified: 12-22-2015 08:57 AM by Jayesseagle.)
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JesseTU
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
Western Kentucky has a good team this year and played well. If Tulsa played the Hilltoppers I'd expect to lose. But, I don't think anyone has argued that USF had a stellar team this year and most people wouldn't place them at #4, as some CUSA fans have stated. They ended the year strong, but no one was saying USF was some amazing team.
Houston
Memphis
Navy
Temple
In any order you want. Those guys are all solid this year and would be favored over Western Kentucky by 10+ each. They would be favored over any team in CUSA by 10+. Does that mean they would win? Of course not, that's why you play the game. But most people "in the know" would expect that they would win, and they usually would.
Below those 4, the AAC gets gritty but did not have a bunch of great teams this year. Lots of coaching turnover, lots of rebuilding, lots of "maybe next year." And that's fairly normal for any league (Outside of Iowa, OSU, Michigan and Sparty the Big32 [or whatever] drops off fast. Outside of Clemson, Florida State, and NC who does the AAC have this year? etc.). Tulsa finished 3-5 in the AAC. Florida Atlantic finished 3-5 in CUSA. Tulsa > Florida Atlantic.
Anyway, kudos to CUSA 3.0. You guys grabbed a bunch of up and coming programs excited to be playing D-I football. Large demographics, solid fans, and many are putting together a winning product. Swing for the fences, some of those you could break through if the politics gets out of the way.
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
(12-22-2015 08:35 AM)Ewglenn Wrote: (12-22-2015 08:26 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (12-22-2015 08:16 AM)Ewglenn Wrote: Lol I love it, you guys think this confernce is the greatest thig ever. Then when one of the top four teams (6-2 conference record is 4th best) gets beat by a cusa team you play it down. Plain and simple they lost and you guys better hope to god UCONN wins if not the cusa faithful will really let yall have it.
Why are Clemson and Louisville fans so obsessed with posting about UCONN...? Weird obsession. You should seek therapy or perhaps invite the other addicts to group with you....
Just saying if yall don't want to hear this stuff yall better beat Marshall. Because if not this thread will get much more interesting.
UConn is the AACs 7th best team...the fact Marshall is forced to play them shows just how superior our bowl lineup is...
Houston vs FSU
Memphis vs Auburn
Navy vs Pitt
Tulsa vs Va Tech
Those are the games that interest me
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
AAC was undoubtedly and easily the best G5 conference, but don't discount how good WKU was this year. That is a legitimately good team that would have been on the Conference championship race in the AAC.
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12-22-2015 10:00 AM |
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
"There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC"
Some years that may be true, last year I'd say you could certainly argue the top 4 in CUSA was better than the top 4 in the AAC, but it certainly wasn't true this year. The top of the AAC was beast this year.
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
(12-22-2015 10:00 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: AAC was undoubtedly and easily the best G5 conference, but don't discount how good WKU was this year. That is a legitimately good team that would have been on the Conference championship race in the AAC.
Correct. The AAC was the deepest with multiple top 25 teams through out the year. WKU is a top 25 team but CUSA is not as deep of a league. WKU could have competed for the title this year in the AAC but they would have had a bigger hurdle in going undefeated as they did in CUSA.
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
Mr. Mod is about to get to 20,000 posts. 20K, I hope I never get that high.
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12-22-2015 10:08 AM |
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
The AAC starts with three members of a BCS conference. It adds the "cream" of the CUSA, leaving behind schools not wanted. Then, adds a strong Navy school.
The CUSA back-fills with teams wherever it can find them.
The AAC schools build/improve facilities, pays coaches more, recruits better, and has better support with media and attendance.
An AAC team wins a BCS bowl. Another AAC team plays in the access bowl.
The AAC has winning records against other G5 conferences.
Some members of the CUSA want to join the AAC.
Then, we are told the AAC and the CUSA are equals.
How could that be?
(This post was last modified: 12-22-2015 02:06 PM by HoustonRocks.)
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
CUSA champ beat the #5 AAC team by having **** refs blow a ton of calls. If that game was called properly, WKU loses. Anybody who says otherwise wasnt watching that game. It was horrendous. No MAC refs should ever be allowed to officiate our games again.
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12-22-2015 02:07 PM |
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
Stop reading the CUSA threads and then posting responses over here....All you do is attract the trolls.
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12-22-2015 02:14 PM |
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
(12-22-2015 02:07 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: CUSA champ beat the #5 AAC team by having **** refs blow a ton of calls. If that game was called properly, WKU loses. Anybody who says otherwise wasnt watching that game. It was horrendous. No MAC refs should ever be allowed to officiate our games again.
I'm on your side here, but don't blame the refs. That's bush league... C-USA-esque. Bad calls or not, USF had plenty of chances to win that game. If USF could make field goals or stop the number of HUGE passing plays by WKU, the refs bad calls do not make a difference.
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
(12-22-2015 02:07 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: CUSA champ beat the #5 AAC team by having **** refs blow a ton of calls. If that game was called properly, WKU loses. Anybody who says otherwise wasnt watching that game. It was horrendous. No MAC refs should ever be allowed to officiate our games again.
Ok, look I'm not here to talk about how CUSA is better than the AAC...but I cannot let this one pass without a comment. You got beat fair and square. Say it out loud so your lips move..."The Bulls are not as good as the Hilltoppers". Blaming the refs? Seriously? The refs were the least of your issues yesterday.
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12-22-2015 02:45 PM |
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
You are making their day talking about this as AAC fans. This whole thread/topic/discussion is just ridiculous.
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12-22-2015 03:06 PM |
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
(12-22-2015 08:16 AM)Ewglenn Wrote: Lol I love it, you guys think this confernce is the greatest thig ever. Then when one of the top four teams (6-2 conference record is 4th best) gets beat by a cusa team you play it down. Plain and simple they lost and you guys better hope to god UCONN wins if not the cusa faithful will really let yall have it.
When the ACC can't beat us so they rely on CUSA to
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
(12-22-2015 02:14 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: Stop reading the CUSA threads and then posting responses over here....All you do is attract the trolls.
I was unaware that conf usa had a board. Why go over there. It is well pathetic.
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12-22-2015 04:54 PM |
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mtmedlin
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
(12-22-2015 02:19 PM)adluther Wrote: (12-22-2015 02:07 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: CUSA champ beat the #5 AAC team by having **** refs blow a ton of calls. If that game was called properly, WKU loses. Anybody who says otherwise wasnt watching that game. It was horrendous. No MAC refs should ever be allowed to officiate our games again.
I'm on your side here, but don't blame the refs. That's bush league... C-USA-esque. Bad calls or not, USF had plenty of chances to win that game. If USF could make field goals or stop the number of HUGE passing plays by WKU, the refs bad calls do not make a difference.
The majority of people who are commenting didnt even watch that game. There was no less than 10 badly missed calls and two of them put touchdowns on the board. WKU doesnt win with that.
USF did play bad, but WKU wasnt the better team at all. Everytime USF got momentum that asshat of a ref called something bogus. You simply cannot ignore how badly it was called. Its not bush league at all. I dont ever blame the officials for a loss... Ill call them out when they are wrong, but in this case it was SO blatant, it is unavoidable.
I am almost 40 years old and havent seen a game with so many missed calls. It was that bad.
and as far as us not stopping the "huge plays".... um, the refs didnt call holds, and then ruled that a receiver whos foot was obviously out of bounds, was in bounds. Everyone in the stadium knew it was a bad call. Hell even the WKU fans sitting next to me laughed. When the opposing teams fans actually apologize to you for getting hosed you know it was amazingly bad.
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12-22-2015 05:50 PM |
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
I did not think the game was very well officiated either. But I do not think that either team got cheated. The refs were consistently bad the whole game imo. In the end you just have to adjust to the refs. I didn't like the way the game was called/not called, but the refs were consistent.
Having said that, regardless of the bowls, this was a great year for the AAC. No doubt you were the best conference this year, and you def set the bar high for another G5 conference to match. Question is, can you guys sustain/math your own success from this season? 3 teams ranked in Top 25, and getting the AB. Now you guys need Houston to win this thing. Heck all of G5 needs this. G5 is currently 1-0 in this game, we need to win them all.
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12-22-2015 05:58 PM |
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
There is no We.
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12-22-2015 05:59 PM |
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RE: There is no difference in the top 4 in CUSA and AAC
(12-22-2015 05:50 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: (12-22-2015 02:19 PM)adluther Wrote: (12-22-2015 02:07 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: CUSA champ beat the #5 AAC team by having **** refs blow a ton of calls. If that game was called properly, WKU loses. Anybody who says otherwise wasnt watching that game. It was horrendous. No MAC refs should ever be allowed to officiate our games again.
I'm on your side here, but don't blame the refs. That's bush league... C-USA-esque. Bad calls or not, USF had plenty of chances to win that game. If USF could make field goals or stop the number of HUGE passing plays by WKU, the refs bad calls do not make a difference.
The majority of people who are commenting didnt even watch that game. There was no less than 10 badly missed calls and two of them put touchdowns on the board. WKU doesnt win with that.
USF did play bad, but WKU wasnt the better team at all. Everytime USF got momentum that asshat of a ref called something bogus. You simply cannot ignore how badly it was called. Its not bush league at all. I dont ever blame the officials for a loss... Ill call them out when they are wrong, but in this case it was SO blatant, it is unavoidable.
I am almost 40 years old and havent seen a game with so many missed calls. It was that bad.
and as far as us not stopping the "huge plays".... um, the refs didnt call holds, and then ruled that a receiver whos foot was obviously out of bounds, was in bounds. Everyone in the stadium knew it was a bad call. Hell even the WKU fans sitting next to me laughed. When the opposing teams fans actually apologize to you for getting hosed you know it was amazingly bad.
I understand how an on-field official might not have been able to see the timing of both the catch and when his foot drug out of bounds, but I don't understand what replay they could have possibly watched (multiple times) to not over rule that call.
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