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Southern Conference Expansion
I would like for the Southern Conference to add Winthrop (SC) and Lipscomb (TN) and become a 12 team conference, This would make the conference look like this:
Citadel (SC)- military/public
East Tenn State (TN) - public
Furman (SC) - private
Lipscomb (TN) - private
Mercer (GA) - private
NC Greensboro (NC) - public
Samford (AL) - private
TN Chattanooga (TN) - public
VA Military Institute (VA) - military/public
Western Carolina (NC) - public
Winthrop (SC) - public
Wofford - private

The makeup would be 9 football playing schools and 3 non-football.
This would allow for 8 conference games (4 home - 4 away), 1 money game, 1 rivalry game, and 1 homecoming game for each school.

The conference could split into two divisions for basketball.
North
VMI
ETSU
UTC
Lipscomb
Western Carolina
UNCG

South
Furman
Mercer
Wofford
Samford
Citadel
Winthrop
12-20-2015 03:43 PM
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Ten is good for the foreseeable future for obvious scheduling reasons in both football and basketball. And, there's no one looking to bolt at present. At the next realighnment, which is inevitable, all bets are off.
12-21-2015 09:43 AM
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(12-21-2015 09:43 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  Ten is good for the foreseeable future for obvious scheduling reasons in both football and basketball. And, there's no one looking to bolt at present. At the next realighnment, which is inevitable, all bets are off.

And, it would be good if ETSU had its eye on C-USA for the future. Watching Western Kentucky and South Florida in the bowl game reminds one of our long rivalry with WKU and how far they've come in recent years plus how fast USF built their football program. Why not ETSU finally?
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12-21-2015 05:01 PM
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I hope when the next round of conference realignment happens we are not wondering who is coming to the socon but wondering what conference we can move up to.
12-22-2015 08:33 AM
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RE: Southern Conference Expansion
(12-21-2015 05:01 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  
(12-21-2015 09:43 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  Ten is good for the foreseeable future for obvious scheduling reasons in both football and basketball. And, there's no one looking to bolt at present. At the next realighnment, which is inevitable, all bets are off.

And, it would be good if ETSU had its eye on C-USA for the future. Watching Western Kentucky and South Florida in the bowl game reminds one of our long rivalry with WKU and how far they've come in recent years plus how fast USF built their football program. Why not ETSU finally?

Gonna have to open that wallet up in the athletic department for that to happen. I think we'll see a split coupled with an open move up similar to what happened with the I/I-AA split in the 80's.
12-22-2015 11:15 AM
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This guy seems to present a rather fantasyland view. The horse he is talking about left the barn years ago, for good or for bad. Now, it is very possible the Power Five schools will separate. But, the non-Power Five schools will never initiate separation. The reason, March Madness. It would be suicidal to pull out of the NCAA DI basketball tourney. Hopefully the next DI shakeup will only involve football, thus leaving the remaining FBS schools and the 63 scholarship FCS schools an opportunity to reorder themselves into more geographically friendly, institutionally compatable, financial likeness conference alignments.


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12-22-2015 01:36 PM
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If you never have a dream....nothing will ever happen! Keep dreaming 66!
12-22-2015 06:02 PM
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the question to be answered is - why expand. what does any new member bring to the conference. you add to add value/get better or to survive. SoCon is not in survival mode. do not see anyone out there that will bring significant value to the conference - simply more mouths to feed.
12-30-2015 09:02 PM
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(12-30-2015 09:02 PM)silence dogood Wrote:  the question to be answered is - why expand. what does any new member bring to the conference. you add to add value/get better or to survive. SoCon is not in survival mode. do not see anyone out there that will bring significant value to the conference - simply more mouths to feed.
Kennesaw State, although can't say much for their basketball program.
12-30-2015 09:21 PM
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(12-22-2015 11:15 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  I think we'll see a split coupled with an open move up similar to what happened with the I/I-AA split in the 80's.

I don't think you ever see a split like this again. 1) The Non Power schools aren't just going to volunteer to step down and not play and the Power schools will not try and separate themselves for fear of anti-trust lawsuits (Which is what should have happened in the late 70s, but didn't).

Besides 8-12 schools in the Power schools, no one else could go out on their own and play with just themselves. Ive said it from day 1 when the Power schools said they wanted a playoff that it was set up for the same 8-12 schools to get into. With a wild card every year or so. This years wild card is Clemson, last year was Oregon.
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