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RE: Southern Conference Expansion
If Belmont comes, they bring Lipscomb with them and create two incredibly hostile in state rivalries with the Boulevard and UTC/ETSU. Nevermind the notion that the four teams playing each other in state every year would turn into a mid major blood bath. I'm in on that. Lipscomb won 20 or so this year with Casey Alexander there (A Rick Byrd disciple), so it would be perfect. Sets up a nice pod of ETSU, UTC, Samford, Belmont, Lipscomb, and Western Carolina, though the strength of the league would be in three of the six most years.
03-13-2017 05:13 PM
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As long as VMI and Citadel are in the league they will kill basketball rpi
03-13-2017 05:18 PM
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The committee will always choose high major garbage like vandy, Wake Forest, etc. over good mid-majors. I think adding Belmont, etc. just makes it more difficult for us to get to the dance and I'm definitely against that even though it would make for great games and story lines.
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03-13-2017 06:51 PM
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(03-12-2017 09:05 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  We would expand and still be a one bid league.

Absolutely,
This year 38 of the 68 bids went to the Big 6 basketball conferences (ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, and Pac 12). Conferences other than these received only 4 at large bids total. 23 conferences are one bid conferences and I don't see that changing.
03-14-2017 07:38 AM
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(03-14-2017 07:38 AM)BucDoctor Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 09:05 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  We would expand and still be a one bid league.

Absolutely,
This year 38 of the 68 bids went to the Big 6 basketball conferences (ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, and Pac 12). Conferences other than these received only 4 at large bids total. 23 conferences are one bid conferences and I don't see that changing.

Given the present trajectory in college athletics, the only change that I could envision would be a move by these power conferences to separate themselves from the rest.
03-14-2017 02:47 PM
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(03-14-2017 02:47 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 07:38 AM)BucDoctor Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 09:05 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  We would expand and still be a one bid league.

Absolutely,
This year 38 of the 68 bids went to the Big 6 basketball conferences (ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, and Pac 12). Conferences other than these received only 4 at large bids total. 23 conferences are one bid conferences and I don't see that changing.

Given the present trajectory in college athletics, the only change that I could envision would be a move by these power conferences to separate themselves from the rest.

Yep. Eventually ESPN and the other networks are going to want the power conferences to only schedule other power conference teams if they those conferences want to keep getting the big TV deals like they have now. ESPN/SEC Network is not going to want to pay the same money to carry a Alabama vs Chattanooga game instead of an Alabama vs Pittsburgh game (this is a football example but same goes for bball).

The group of 5 and FCS schools should be working together to think about their futures. Smart thing to do would be to realign some of the conferences based on geography and to work on local, national and streaming TV deals.
03-14-2017 03:18 PM
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(03-14-2017 02:47 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 07:38 AM)BucDoctor Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 09:05 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  We would expand and still be a one bid league.

Absolutely,
This year 38 of the 68 bids went to the Big 6 basketball conferences (ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, and Pac 12). Conferences other than these received only 4 at large bids total. 23 conferences are one bid conferences and I don't see that changing.

Given the present trajectory in college athletics, the only change that I could envision would be a move by these power conferences to separate themselves from the rest.

I actually wish they would separate themselves. It would absolutely DESTROY March Madness as we know it. Put them in a different division, and watch the $$ dry up for them from the NCAA tournament.
03-14-2017 07:12 PM
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(03-14-2017 07:12 PM)Efan Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 02:47 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  
(03-14-2017 07:38 AM)BucDoctor Wrote:  
(03-12-2017 09:05 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  We would expand and still be a one bid league.

Absolutely,
This year 38 of the 68 bids went to the Big 6 basketball conferences (ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, and Pac 12). Conferences other than these received only 4 at large bids total. 23 conferences are one bid conferences and I don't see that changing.

Given the present trajectory in college athletics, the only change that I could envision would be a move by these power conferences to separate themselves from the rest.

I actually wish they would separate themselves. It would absolutely DESTROY March Madness as we know it. Put them in a different division, and watch the $$ dry up for them from the NCAA tournament.

It wouldn't dry up for them. It would dry up for non power conferences. As great as the stories of the underdogs are making runs, people want to see UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA, Indiana, Duke, and teams like that come Sweet 16 and beyond. Those are the large fan bases, those are the large draws at the gate and on TV. It's the same principle that applies in every sport.
03-14-2017 07:58 PM
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March Madness ratings would be cut by at least a third without mid majors. This isnt football, and the fanbases and teams in the mid majors are substantial and represent a large percent of the viewing audience. It would be a terrible decision for them, for us, and for the viewers. Not happening.
03-14-2017 09:37 PM
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No, no they don't. The majority of the viewership cares about Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, UNC, Indiana, UCLA, Syracuse, Louisville.
They don't care about Wichita State, Dayton, Xavier, or even Cincinnati or Memphis. If the Power 5 breaks off and does its' own thing, they'll be completely fine without mid and low majors.
03-15-2017 05:16 PM
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