Fairly deep and mostly healthy with only 2 real injuries.

(12-20-2015 12:09 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Maybe we'll find out in January when they try to stop NDSU from five-peating.

Agree

(12-20-2015 12:53 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Bet Jacksonville St Registrar and President are the biggest fans of a win and FBS offer. Saw JSU's enrollment has been dropping, now only 8600. The university's in Alabama that don't have FBS have seen enrollments plummet, while FBS schools have seen enrollments increase, substantially in the cases of Troy and the Tide.

Troy used to be a peer of JSU. Now they are entirely different sizes.

This year, JSU should have been in the SEC east. They might have won the thing.

Go Gamecocks! Pound the bizon!

Might want to check troys enrollment numbers with the state dept of education. Or just look at some of the latest bond offerings. You will see their enrollment has plummeted.

(12-20-2015 02:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 11:57 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Are they an FBS top 25 caliber program in FCS?

They're pretty darned good! They beat Auburn for 57 minutes of the game and made a crucial mistake at the end of regulation.

They have two of our players that couldn't maintain academic standing, and more than a few more from other SEC schools and P5 schools who also failed to maintain academic standing at their original schools.

When you play them you aren't going up against 2 and 3 star athletes. I'd say they would easily hold their own in the FBS at the G5 level and would be better than many of the lower 1/4 of the P5 schools.

I'd pity Kansas if they played them.

Exactly which ones couldnt maintain grades?

(12-20-2015 12:35 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 11:03 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 01:37 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 12:53 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Bet Jacksonville St Registrar and President are the biggest fans of a win and FBS offer. Saw JSU's enrollment has been dropping, now only 8600. The university's in Alabama that don't have FBS have seen enrollments plummet, while FBS schools have seen enrollments increase, substantially in the cases of Troy and the Tide.

Troy used to be a peer of JSU. Now they are entirely different sizes.

This year, JSU should have been in the SEC east. They might have won the thing.

Go Gamecocks! Pound the bizon!

Has more to do with the fact both Troy and Alabama have been committed to building main campus facilities in recent years. Troy University has almost done a complete overhaul.

It has more to do with the falling funding from the state and the the reality of our proximity to georgia where many of our students traditionally hail from, has for years now well funded their universities with lottery money. The bulging enrollments in georgia has taken a toll on our enrollment growth. Considering this we have maintained our enrollment fairly well.

How has Troy managed to expand enrollment so much? Online?

U of Alabama has had tremendous growth since Saban took over.

More to do with their acceptance policy than Saban.

(12-20-2015 11:57 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 12:53 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Bet Jacksonville St Registrar and President are the biggest fans of a win and FBS offer. Saw JSU's enrollment has been dropping, now only 8600. The university's in Alabama that don't have FBS have seen enrollments plummet, while FBS schools have seen enrollments increase, substantially in the cases of Troy and the Tide.

Troy used to be a peer of JSU. Now they are entirely different sizes.

This year, JSU should have been in the SEC east. They might have won the thing.

Go Gamecocks! Pound the bizon!

Might want to check troys enrollment numbers with the state dept of education. Or just look at some of the latest bond offerings. You will see their enrollment has plummeted.

The total enrollment at all campuses is more than twice Jacksonville St at almost 20k. The Troy campus is quite small though at less than 7k, smaller than JSU. Wasn't the total Troy enrollment greater than 20k not so long ago? The endowment isn't too large either.

(12-20-2015 02:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 11:57 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Are they an FBS top 25 caliber program in FCS?

They're pretty darned good! They beat Auburn for 57 minutes of the game and made a crucial mistake at the end of regulation.

They have two of our players that couldn't maintain academic standing, and more than a few more from other SEC schools and P5 schools who also failed to maintain academic standing at their original schools.

When you play them you aren't going up against 2 and 3 star athletes. I'd say they would easily hold their own in the FBS at the G5 level and would be better than many of the lower 1/4 of the P5 schools.

I'd pity Kansas if they played them.

They also benefited from getting players from UAB. Many FCS schools that could play against G5 and P5 schools got kids from the FBS schools that did not work out for them. Eastern Washington, Montana and Sam Houston State when they are good had very good QBs that transferred out of Texas. Good old Transfer students from the Longhorns lost because kids could not be a starter. Sam Houston State did get a transfer QB from Oklahoma who was a starter.

(12-21-2015 12:07 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 11:57 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 12:53 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Bet Jacksonville St Registrar and President are the biggest fans of a win and FBS offer. Saw JSU's enrollment has been dropping, now only 8600. The university's in Alabama that don't have FBS have seen enrollments plummet, while FBS schools have seen enrollments increase, substantially in the cases of Troy and the Tide.

Troy used to be a peer of JSU. Now they are entirely different sizes.

This year, JSU should have been in the SEC east. They might have won the thing.

Go Gamecocks! Pound the bizon!

Might want to check troys enrollment numbers with the state dept of education. Or just look at some of the latest bond offerings. You will see their enrollment has plummeted.

The total enrollment at all campuses is more than twice Jacksonville St at almost 20k. The Troy campus is quite small though at less than 7k, smaller than JSU. Wasn't the total Troy enrollment greater than 20k not so long ago? The endowment isn't too large either.

troy was over 30,000. You may want to go relook at their numbers. Go look at some bond paperwork which has to be verified. I dont want to put numbers out I want you to look so you know it is not some random posters opinion.

(12-21-2015 12:01 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 02:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 11:57 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Are they an FBS top 25 caliber program in FCS?

They're pretty darned good! They beat Auburn for 57 minutes of the game and made a crucial mistake at the end of regulation.

They have two of our players that couldn't maintain academic standing, and more than a few more from other SEC schools and P5 schools who also failed to maintain academic standing at their original schools.

When you play them you aren't going up against 2 and 3 star athletes. I'd say they would easily hold their own in the FBS at the G5 level and would be better than many of the lower 1/4 of the P5 schools.

I'd pity Kansas if they played them.

Exactly which ones couldnt maintain grades?

Since you dont want to answer, I will give it a good guess since we only have two from one school. Auburn has to be your school and Chris Landrum and Devaunte Sigler have to be the players. Neither were dismissed or encouraged to leave Auburn because of grades. Landrum left because he was third team LB with little to no playing time. Auburn felt he was too small to play DL in the SEC and too slow for LB. Landrum is playing this season at JSU as a grad student. Sigler from all accounts was dismissed because of non payment of rental fees. He did play more as freshman at Auburn than as a Sophomore. Im sure his lack of earning more playing time create the lack of desire to help him with his finances. He went back home to Mobile before Landrum recruit him to JSU. Sigler will be playing in the National Championship game as a college graduate.

These guys were not good enough on the football field for Auburn. This one reason doesnt give you or anyone else the privilege to degrade them and assume other things. Or if you want to degrade at least do it with factual items.

(12-21-2015 09:03 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(12-21-2015 12:01 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 02:20 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 11:57 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Are they an FBS top 25 caliber program in FCS?

They're pretty darned good! They beat Auburn for 57 minutes of the game and made a crucial mistake at the end of regulation.

They have two of our players that couldn't maintain academic standing, and more than a few more from other SEC schools and P5 schools who also failed to maintain academic standing at their original schools.

When you play them you aren't going up against 2 and 3 star athletes. I'd say they would easily hold their own in the FBS at the G5 level and would be better than many of the lower 1/4 of the P5 schools.

I'd pity Kansas if they played them.

Exactly which ones couldnt maintain grades?

Since you dont want to answer, I will give it a good guess since we only have two from one school. Auburn has to be your school and Chris Landrum and Devaunte Sigler have to be the players. Neither were dismissed or encouraged to leave Auburn because of grades. Landrum left because he was third team LB with little to no playing time. Auburn felt he was too small to play DL in the SEC and too slow for LB. Landrum is playing this season at JSU as a grad student. Sigler from all accounts was dismissed because of non payment of rental fees. He did play more as freshman at Auburn than as a Sophomore. Im sure his lack of earning more playing time create the lack of desire to help him with his finances. He went back home to Mobile before Landrum recruit him to JSU. Sigler will be playing in the National Championship game as a college graduate.

These guys were not good enough on the football field for Auburn. This one reason doesnt give you or anyone else the privilege to degrade them and assume other things. Or if you want to degrade at least do it with factual items.

One other thing do you want to give the academic records of the other transfers or should we just assume you were assuming on these, too?

(12-20-2015 12:35 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 11:03 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 01:37 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 12:53 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Bet Jacksonville St Registrar and President are the biggest fans of a win and FBS offer. Saw JSU's enrollment has been dropping, now only 8600. The university's in Alabama that don't have FBS have seen enrollments plummet, while FBS schools have seen enrollments increase, substantially in the cases of Troy and the Tide.

Troy used to be a peer of JSU. Now they are entirely different sizes.

This year, JSU should have been in the SEC east. They might have won the thing.

Go Gamecocks! Pound the bizon!

Has more to do with the fact both Troy and Alabama have been committed to building main campus facilities in recent years. Troy University has almost done a complete overhaul.

It has more to do with the falling funding from the state and the the reality of our proximity to georgia where many of our students traditionally hail from, has for years now well funded their universities with lottery money. The bulging enrollments in georgia has taken a toll on our enrollment growth. Considering this we have maintained our enrollment fairly well.

How has Troy managed to expand enrollment so much? Online?

U of Alabama has had tremendous growth since Saban took over.

Jmo

Online, satellite campuses, many kids from north florida panhandle. Really nice school, small class size on main campus. Fills a niche for kids not wanting to go super sized schools like ua and au. Low overhead from online funnels money back to main campus. Strong programs with military. 8000 main campus, 29000 overall atudents. Good leadership

(12-21-2015 09:56 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 12:35 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 11:03 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 01:37 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 12:53 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Bet Jacksonville St Registrar and President are the biggest fans of a win and FBS offer. Saw JSU's enrollment has been dropping, now only 8600. The university's in Alabama that don't have FBS have seen enrollments plummet, while FBS schools have seen enrollments increase, substantially in the cases of Troy and the Tide.

Troy used to be a peer of JSU. Now they are entirely different sizes.

This year, JSU should have been in the SEC east. They might have won the thing.

Go Gamecocks! Pound the bizon!

Has more to do with the fact both Troy and Alabama have been committed to building main campus facilities in recent years. Troy University has almost done a complete overhaul.

It has more to do with the falling funding from the state and the the reality of our proximity to georgia where many of our students traditionally hail from, has for years now well funded their universities with lottery money. The bulging enrollments in georgia has taken a toll on our enrollment growth. Considering this we have maintained our enrollment fairly well.

How has Troy managed to expand enrollment so much? Online?

U of Alabama has had tremendous growth since Saban took over.

Jmo

Online, satellite campuses, many kids from north florida panhandle. Really nice school, small class size on main campus. Fills a niche for kids not wanting to go super sized schools like ua and au. Low overhead from online funnels money back to main campus. Strong programs with military. 8000 main campus, 29000 overall atudents. Good leadership

Here are a few links
State of Alabama says 12,338 including all campuses.
http://www.ache.alabama.gov/Content/Abst...ermSum.pdf

US News says 15,115
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...rsity-1047

Moodys doesnt give a count but does give an enrollment loss of close to 10,000.
https://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-d...-PR_325388

Troy has seen a dramatic loss of students. Several factors are involved, lack of state funding, military education changes, Pell grant changes and the push by UAT to accept anyone and everyone.

Nothing like facts to end a thread.