No. 1 Providence Day 98, David Crockett (Tenn.) 93: The Chargers had leads of 20 or more points three times against the 11th-ranked 3A team in Tennessee but had to withstand a superior performance from senior point guard Patrick Good, who made 10 3-point shots and finished with 44 points. David Crockett (5-1), which came in winning by an average of 24 points per game, made 18 3-point shots. Providence Day got 15 points, eight rebounds, two steals, and two blocks from Isaac Johnson; 13 points, 11 rebounds, four steals from Josh Howard and 11 points, three rebounds and three assists from Trey Wertz.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/...rylink=cpy
According to the JC Press Dotson had 29 points and 5 assists.
Stat-wise Good held his own against the highly touted Dotson.
Their starters
6'7 Grant Williams who just signed with Tennessee
6'6 Joshua Howard son of Juwan Howard with some Mid Major offers
6'8 Isaac Johnson with some Mid Major offers
6'4 Trey Wertz, only a sophomore but getting interest from High Majors including Tennessee and North Carolina
6'1 Devon Dotson another sophomore who already has offers from Clemson, Georgia and Tennessee with interest being shown by Kentucky.

I would say their were more then a few scouts at that game to watch the home team and he might have caught some folks attention.

I wonder If Forbes has contacted Good?

(12-19-2015 08:06 AM)Bucfaithful Wrote:  I wonder If Forbes has contacted Good?

I have heard he is considered too short, Good player but Forbes would prefer someone 6'2-6'3 with that skill set and thinks he can find that kid.

I'm going to go ahead and predict that this dude will be playing D1 ball somewhere. Too short or not, we've had shorter guards who couldn't shoot that well. I'll take it.

(12-19-2015 09:41 AM)Efan Wrote:  I'm going to go ahead and predict that this dude will be playing D1 ball somewhere. Too short or not, we've had shorter guards who couldn't shoot that well. I'll take it.

This board has historically been polarized on the subject of local kids.
One camp seem seems to think any kid who can average 15 points at Science Hill or DB should get a chance to play ETSU, the other end doesn't think it is possible a local kid could be good enough and recruiting a local kid is a sign of failure.

I wouldn't be against recruiting him. Ryan Lawson turned out pretty well and you could argue that Good might be a better HS player.

Our region has difficulty seeing the big picture. It's the reason when MB was fired the board lit up with Pitts & Mister talk. Both were myopic suggestions.

Tens of thousands of high school players (35,000 secondary schools)...and good ones under every rock. 18 months ago several said Good was headed to the NBA. Simmer down. Time will reveal where he goes.

I still have not heard an authoritarian tale on why he jumped schools (with 2 of his buddies?) mid-career. If it is a real reason, no sweat. If it is take-my-ball-and-play-down-the-road attitude, then it's a consideration for recruiters.

Good players get noticed. Friend of mine coached a major high school player last season. 18 D1s looking at him plus non stop juco and prep schools. He said the phone rings literally seven days a week.

Rest assured, Good will have all the opportunities he deserves.

(12-19-2015 01:01 PM)CaptainJackAubrey Wrote:  Tens of thousands of high school players (35,000 secondary schools)...and good ones under every rock. 18 months ago several said Good was headed to the NBA. Simmer down. Time will reveal where he goes.

I still have not heard an authoritarian tale on why he jumped schools (with 2 of his buddies?) mid-career. If it is a real reason, no sweat. If it is take-my-ball-and-play-down-the-road attitude, then it's a consideration for recruiters.


Rest assured, Good will have all the opportunities he deserves.

I don't remember all these post about Good going to the NBA and I would bet any such post(s) was the same poster.

As for not hearing why he jumped schools two years ago.
Here is a hint, His father was name head coach at Crockett two years ago.

(12-19-2015 01:33 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 01:01 PM)CaptainJackAubrey Wrote:  Tens of thousands of high school players (35,000 secondary schools)...and good ones under every rock. 18 months ago several said Good was headed to the NBA. Simmer down. Time will reveal where he goes.

I still have not heard an authoritarian tale on why he jumped schools (with 2 of his buddies?) mid-career. If it is a real reason, no sweat. If it is take-my-ball-and-play-down-the-road attitude, then it's a consideration for recruiters.


Rest assured, Good will have all the opportunities he deserves.

I don't remember all these post about Good going to the NBA and I would bet any such post(s) was the same poster.

As for not hearing why he jumped schools two years ago.
Here is a hint, His father was name head coach at Crockett two years ago.

Glad you're back on your medication.

(12-19-2015 11:05 AM)Bucster Wrote:  I wouldn't be against recruiting him. Ryan Lawson turned out pretty well and you could argue that Good might be a better HS player.

Ryan Lawson was a legit 6'2 point guard that had a good handle, was physical, and could hit the open jumper. He had the physical tools to be a D1 prospect out of high school; something that I have only seen out of about 5-10 other players in the Northeast TN area in the past 20 years. ETSU wasn't taking a risk on him; he had the skills and size to play at that level. The problem with Good is he is a 5'9 shooting guard. That is a risk ETSU may not want to take.

People sometimes get caught up in how many points a player in this area scores a game or how they dominate the competition around here. That doesn't always translate to the next level. When Lawson played at Cherokee he was an excellent player, but there were players around here who had as good or better careers and may be considered better overall (I may be underselling him. i think he was player of the year in his conference his freshman year of HS). But when he played on the TN Travelers with Vincent Yarborough is where you could see he had the skills to get to the next level. It takes the combination of size and skill to play D1.

I don't remember a lot about Lawson's recruitment, so I could be totally off base here but from what I remember I don't recall Dechellis going after Lawson right away and we that we got in late on him. Could be totally off base there though. Do you remember how many other D-1 schools offered Lawson? Also didn't realize Good was that short, kind of dumb on my part there.

(12-19-2015 03:59 PM)Bucster Wrote:  I don't remember a lot about Lawson's recruitment, so I could be totally off base here but from what I remember I don't recall Dechellis going after Lawson right away and we that we got in late on him. Could be totally off base there though. Do you remember how many other D-1 schools offered Lawson? Also didn't realize Good was that short, kind of dumb on my part there.

You may be right on Lawson's recruitment because I don't really know. just pointing out that Lawson wasn't only a really good player but also had the physical traits that you look for in a D1 player.

(12-19-2015 03:43 PM)brock20 Wrote:  Ryan Lawson was a legit 6'2 point guard that had a good handle, was physical, and could hit the open jumper. He had the physical tools to be a D1 prospect out of high school; something that I have only seen out of about 5-10 other players in the Northeast TN area in the past 20 years. ETSU wasn't taking a risk on him; he had the skills and size to play at that level. The problem with Good is he is a 5'9 shooting guard. That is a risk ETSU may not want to take.

every thing I have ever read about Good he has been called a point guard, including the article at the start of this thread from the Charlotte Observer.
He might not be a traditional PG but he is the floor general, he is the one who brings the ball up the court, from what I have heard he has a good handle.
I don't think anyone would disagree that Ge'lawn is the PG and T.J. the shooting guard, but Ge'lawn is scoring more, Hitting a higher FG and 3pt% and TJ actually has a couple of more assists.
But Ge'Lawn is the floor general, he brings the ball up, he is the PG.

I think it would be a good idea to sign that young man. It appears to me he has a tremendous upside.

I trust Forbes' judgement.

(12-19-2015 06:08 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  I trust Forbes' judgement.

I'm wavering. I heard he's a washout.

(12-19-2015 01:48 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  No. 1 Providence Day 98, David Crockett (Tenn.) 93: The Chargers had leads of 20 or more points three times against the 11th-ranked 3A team in Tennessee but had to withstand a superior performance from senior point guard Patrick Good, who made 10 3-point shots and finished with 44 points. David Crockett (5-1), which came in winning by an average of 24 points per game, made 18 3-point shots. Providence Day got 15 points, eight rebounds, two steals, and two blocks from Isaac Johnson; 13 points, 11 rebounds, four steals from Josh Howard and 11 points, three rebounds and three assists from Trey Wertz.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/...rylink=cpy
According to the JC Press Dotson had 29 points and 5 assists.
Stat-wise Good held his own against the highly touted Dotson.
Their starters
6'7 Grant Williams who just signed with Tennessee
6'6 Joshua Howard son of Juwan Howard with some Mid Major offers
6'8 Isaac Johnson with some Mid Major offers
6'4 Trey Wertz, only a sophomore but getting interest from High Majors including Tennessee and North Carolina
6'1 Devon Dotson another sophomore who already has offers from Clemson, Georgia and Tennessee with interest being shown by Kentucky.

I would say their were more then a few scouts at that game to watch the home team and he might have caught some folks attention.

I just noticed Williams stat line
24 points, 15 rebounds, five blocks, five assists
He and Dotson both had great games but the local paper only mentioned the other 3 starters, strange.

I like Good, like him a great deal. I think he can play a role at the d1 level, though it remains to be seen what that role would look like. I hope Patrick picks a school that's a good fit for him and for the school.

I also understand the sentimental side of the "let's get the local kid" argument. However, it must be kept in mind that Forbes tracks dozens of JUCO and high school guards around the country as I type this. For example, Forbes intently pursued Jason Williams - our early signee and high scoring guard like Good. On paper, Good and Williams resemble one another. However, there are reasons Forbes went after Williams so diligently. The author of the publication that follows ranks Williams as the 7th best player in the LOADED city of Detroit: http://www.soodetroit.com/the-top-31-boy...l-players/

(12-19-2015 10:05 PM)Bucfaithful Wrote:  I like Good, like him a great deal. I think he's can play a role at the d1 level, though it remains to be seen what that role would look like. I hope Patrick picks a school that's a good fit for him and the school.

I also understand the sentimental side of the "let's get the local kid" argument. However, it must be kept in mind that Forbes tracks dozens of JUCO and high school guards around the country as I type this. For example, Forbes intently pursued Jason Williams - our early signee and high scoring guard like Good. On paper, Good and Williams resemble one another. However, there are reasons Forbes went after Williams so diligently. The author of the publication that follows ranks Williams as the 7th best player in the LOADED city of Detroit: http://www.soodetroit.com/the-top-31-boy...l-players/

As I mentioned in the other Thread DeChellis has interest in the kid, just sure Good is into the whole Navy thing.

Speaking of Jason Williams here's another blurb about him:

His 5-11 height might be the only thing keeping Allen Academy senior point guard Jason Williams from going high Division I. But other than that, his game speaks for itself. Williams started off the game on fire, going 6-6, and ended up 13-17 for 29 points. He was almost impossible to stay in front of, and is so slippery getting to the basket, finishing on either side. The ETSU signee will need to continue improving his jump-shot, but no one can question his toughness, playmaking, and ability to score one-on-one.
https://michiganpreps.rivals.com/content...ID=1837967