With all this talk about the 'high standards' of what it takes to be a P5 program, I thought I'd start a thread to identify some of the current P5 members that are historically mediocre to god-awful.

During their existence, these programs are basically extremely lucky to have that 'golden ticket' in hand, despite doing nothing to show they deserve it.

I know for a fact, that if ALL P5 and G5 teams were reset overnight and a draft was held, that many of the AAC teams would be more desirable than these football programs.

Again, this is for the football product only and we can all add a non-worthy Program

I'll start with the first unworthy Program

Wake Forest Demon Deacons
Atlantic Coast Conference
Winston-Salem, North Carolina
Private University
Endowment: $1.15 billion
Stadium Capacity: 31,500
Student Enrollment: 7,591 (2014-2015) Sixth smallest in FBS
Market Size: 235,527 residents (86th)
Media Market (MSA): (82nd)

-Started Playing Football in 1888
-All Time record: (432-633-33) (.408)
-Post Season Bowl Record: 10 Bowls (6-4)
-Conference Titles: TWO (1970, 2006)
-National Championships: ZERO
-Heisman Winners: ZERO
-All Americans: THREE
-Top 25 Finishes (AP): ONE
-Top 10 Finishes (AP): ZERO

Rutgers.

Nuff said

Sure there are quite a few of them. Some of the wound fall to the best of the FCS on a regular basis.

With that said they are grandfathered into the club and aren't going anywhere

Indiana Hoosiers

They have the most loses out of any division 1 teams

Is this just about football?

Kansas. Iowa State. Illinois. Half of the ACC

I would love to be in a conference with a school like Wake Forest. Good institution that has a LONG history in athletics and does deliver some good teams in the "second tier" of sports.

Every team that played in the unranked big least

Wake at least played in an Orange Bowl in the last 10 years. I could name worse.

Also, they're in the 46th ranked TV market, not sure where your numbers came from.

(01-17-2016 09:47 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Wake at least played in an Orange Bowl in the last 10 years. I could name worse.

Also, they're in the 46th ranked TV market, not sure where your numbers came from.

Conference Title in 2006....it's there.... read again.

FYI- they lost that Orange Bowl to Louisville. My point is that they've been playing college football since 1888 and have only won TWO conference titles and have only ranked inside the top 25 ONCE in their history.

Texas Tech's last outright conference championship was 1955.

Illinois

Iowa State, Vandy, & Purdue.