(12-18-2015 03:58 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Jeff really didn't dive into the arrogance of Loser Tech fans.....though, that in itself is a black hole. When did it start? And why?
Maybe there's no answer for it...?
Perhaps it's the same sense of 'entitlement' that is running rampant through our society today. "I'm entitled because things haven't worked out as I planned...I gave it a shot and others got in the way. And most importantly, "I said so."

They are entitled because, like the teenage princess, they have one sugar daddy who buys everthing for them. So it's not like they have to go out and work for it like the rest of us. They are exactly that type of entitled teen princesses.

(12-19-2015 08:00 AM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 06:57 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 03:45 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  How soon some of y'all have forgotten the absolute arrogance of ULL fans just two short years ago when they were winning and were going to finally put La Tech in their place. We all heard how they were the second best football team in Louisiana and how they needed to get out of the CRAPBELT. Even your own conference mates hated you and made fun of your NAMESAGA. How the mighty have fallen. And the sad part is now that they are not even bowl elegible all they have to stay relevant on this board is Tech bashing and bowl attendance smack. Pathetic.

elegible? Tier 1 education at work again.

And preaching to the Cajuns about bowl-eligibility when you're playing in your first back-to-back bowl games in modern history. LOL. THAT's pathetic.

Today everyone in the SunBelt is an A-State fan and I can assure you there will be many Cajun fans who will make the drive to New Orleans to party and watch the game while supporting our conference mates.

Wonder how many non-Tech C-USA fans will do the same for the Pollies? I bet even you could count that high.

That bowl game stat is misleading though. There used to be fewer bowls and it was harder for G5 teams to get into a bowl until very recently. Today you can get to a bowl with a losing record.

A better way to look at success is to compare records/rank (since Tech came back to 1A in 1989):

#64 Louisiana Tech (153-150-3)
#90 ULL (127-173-1)
#105 ULM (89-155)

You'd have a valid point if you were arguing a point I tried to make. I didn't. I was simply responding to ATLDawg for calling us out on not being bowl eligible this year. With Tech pissing away a chance at a bowl game in 2012 (due to its arrogance which just happens to be the topic of this thread) and then not being bowl-eligible in 2013 when there were a gazillion bowls, only reinforces my point that he's in no position to mock the Cajuns on the subject.

The Cajuns played in 4 straight bowls and won them all. Nuff said.

(12-19-2015 08:25 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 03:58 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  Jeff really didn't dive into the arrogance of Loser Tech fans.....though, that in itself is a black hole. When did it start? And why?
Maybe there's no answer for it...?
Perhaps it's the same sense of 'entitlement' that is running rampant through our society today. "I'm entitled because things haven't worked out as I planned...I gave it a shot and others got in the way. And most importantly, "I said so."

They are entitled because, like the teenage princess, they have one sugar daddy who buys everthing for them. So it's not like they have to go out and work for it like the rest of us. They are exactly that type of entitled teen princesses.

actually we have a few sugar daddies, but make no mistake about it we're classi

(12-19-2015 08:00 AM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 06:57 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 03:45 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  How soon some of y'all have forgotten the absolute arrogance of ULL fans just two short years ago when they were winning and were going to finally put La Tech in their place. We all heard how they were the second best football team in Louisiana and how they needed to get out of the CRAPBELT. Even your own conference mates hated you and made fun of your NAMESAGA. How the mighty have fallen. And the sad part is now that they are not even bowl elegible all they have to stay relevant on this board is Tech bashing and bowl attendance smack. Pathetic.

elegible? Tier 1 education at work again.

And preaching to the Cajuns about bowl-eligibility when you're playing in your first back-to-back bowl games in modern history. LOL. THAT's pathetic.

Today everyone in the SunBelt is an A-State fan and I can assure you there will be many Cajun fans who will make the drive to New Orleans to party and watch the game while supporting our conference mates.

Wonder how many non-Tech C-USA fans will do the same for the Pollies? I bet even you could count that high.

That bowl game stat is misleading though. There used to be fewer bowls and it was harder for G5 teams to get into a bowl until very recently. Today you can get to a bowl with a losing record.

A better way to look at success is to compare records/rank (since Tech came back to 1A in 1989):

#64 Louisiana Tech (153-150-3)
#90 ULL (127-173-1)
#105 ULM (89-155)

I'm not sure anything outside the most recent 10 years is of much relevance, with respect to on-field performance/results. And even that should be more heavily weighted to the last 3 and 5 years.

For example, where does Troy's legacy of success leave them now? Battling it out with football neophyte South Alabama for hearts, minds, and recruits.

What kinda need of school has homework due on game day? Come on Latech I can't leave until my wife finishes this crap.

(12-19-2015 10:48 AM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 08:00 AM)T_Won1 Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 06:57 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 03:45 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  How soon some of y'all have forgotten the absolute arrogance of ULL fans just two short years ago when they were winning and were going to finally put La Tech in their place. We all heard how they were the second best football team in Louisiana and how they needed to get out of the CRAPBELT. Even your own conference mates hated you and made fun of your NAMESAGA. How the mighty have fallen. And the sad part is now that they are not even bowl elegible all they have to stay relevant on this board is Tech bashing and bowl attendance smack. Pathetic.

elegible? Tier 1 education at work again.

And preaching to the Cajuns about bowl-eligibility when you're playing in your first back-to-back bowl games in modern history. LOL. THAT's pathetic.

Today everyone in the SunBelt is an A-State fan and I can assure you there will be many Cajun fans who will make the drive to New Orleans to party and watch the game while supporting our conference mates.

Wonder how many non-Tech C-USA fans will do the same for the Pollies? I bet even you could count that high.

That bowl game stat is misleading though. There used to be fewer bowls and it was harder for G5 teams to get into a bowl until very recently. Today you can get to a bowl with a losing record.

A better way to look at success is to compare records/rank (since Tech came back to 1A in 1989):

#64 Louisiana Tech (153-150-3)
#90 ULL (127-173-1)
#105 ULM (89-155)

I'm not sure anything outside the most recent 10 years is of much relevance, with respect to on-field performance/results. And even that should be more heavily weighted to the last 3 and 5 years.

For example, where does Troy's legacy of success leave them now? Battling it out with football neophyte South Alabama for hearts, minds, and recruits.

I've come to recognize lately that it's really about coaching. Your team takes on the personality of your coach and teams throughout your history have different personalities. Tech has gone from slobber-knocking defenses to revolutionary passing offenses and back and forth. But I also realize it's about location and access to talent. It's much tougher for NM State to consistently amass talent than it is Troy, for example.

I think the biggest reason Tech has enjoyed mostly successful teams throughout all the different personalities is because we are in a hotbed of football talent. I started realizing this when Manny Diaz said, "Your team is who you can recruit." He wasn't saying that about players on the current team, but about the talent that is available in your area. So I do think having a long-term resume of winning is significant. Now, it's not winning consistently from year to year (Tech is just as prone to go 5-7 as they are 8-4), but looking back 40 years, the final record is a winning record throughout multiple coaching changes and philosophical differences and personalities that come and go. Does that make sense?

(12-19-2015 11:35 AM)T_Won1 Wrote:  I've come to recognize lately that it's really about coaching. Your team takes on the personality of your coach and teams throughout your history have different personalities. Tech has gone from slobber-knocking defenses to revolutionary passing offenses and back and forth. But I also realize it's about location and access to talent. It's much tougher for NM State to consistently amass talent than it is Troy, for example.

I think the biggest reason Tech has enjoyed mostly successful teams throughout all the different personalities is because we are in a hotbed of football talent. I started realizing this when Manny Diaz said, "Your team is who you can recruit." He wasn't saying that about players on the current team, but about the talent that is available in your area. So I do think having a long-term resume of winning is significant. Now, it's not winning consistently from year to year (Tech is just as prone to go 5-7 as they are 8-4), but looking back 40 years, the final record is a winning record throughout multiple coaching changes and philosophical differences and personalities that come and go. Does that make sense?

Your comments make perfect sense though I think you left out one key element to success. Being in a hotbed of football talent doesn't lead to success if there's not support from the very top of the program.

I know you Tech fans don't like to hear about our dinosaur president who was dragged kicking and screaming to our athletic department's aid, but it's as good an example as any. Another would be Tulane University. When I sat in Cajun field for the first game there in September 1971, we had the same president as the one who hired Ricky Bustle.

Both ULL and Tulane are located in great football recruiting areas and yet we both have generally sucked sweaty donkey nuts for decades. We finally got a new prez in 2008 and I think everyone will agree the overall changes in our athletic performance and dedicatiopn to sports across-the-board has been impressive. Tulane finally got a new president last year and may be on the cusp of finally turning around their athletic department.

LaTech has been generally blessed with supportive and forward-thinking presidents when it comes to athletics and the results can be seen in the numbers. Curse the day you hire one who doesn't support athletics.

Hope you guys suffer no injuries tonight, though I do hope the stAte kicks your asses till your noses bleed.

Everyone knows that Engineers can't spell. What we do well however, is count our money. And my point to you is that if any of your conference mates would go over to Ragin Pagin they would be treated to the same arrogance of thinking you are too good for the Sunbelr. or the SUCKBELT AND YOU CALL IT. At least we don't trash our own conference

(12-19-2015 02:28 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Everyone knows that Engineers can't spell. What we do well however, is count our money. And my point to you is that if any of your conference mates would go over to Ragin Pagin they would be treated to the same arrogance of thinking you are too good for the Sunbelr. or the SUCKBELT AND YOU CALL IT. At least we don't trash our own conference

I've been to Ragin pagin, I've been to BB&B

There is no comparison.

(12-19-2015 02:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 02:28 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Everyone knows that Engineers can't spell. What we do well however, is count our money. And my point to you is that if any of your conference mates would go over to Ragin Pagin they would be treated to the same arrogance of thinking you are too good for the Sunbelr. or the SUCKBELT AND YOU CALL IT. At least we don't trash our own conference

I've been to Ragin pagin, I've been to BB&B

There is no comparison.

Thank you as I know you say that sincerely.

When it comes to the arrogance of fringe Cajun fans versus the average Neck fan, I'd say there's a sutble but important difference.

Most of those Cajun fans ask why we're not doing better at this point in our history relative to our peers (a valid question to ask) verus the average Neck fan who acts as though they have no peers.

(12-19-2015 02:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 02:28 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Everyone knows that Engineers can't spell. What we do well however, is count our money. And my point to you is that if any of your conference mates would go over to Ragin Pagin they would be treated to the same arrogance of thinking you are too good for the Sunbelr. or the SUCKBELT AND YOU CALL IT. At least we don't trash our own conference

I've been to Ragin pagin, I've been to BB&B

There is no comparison.

Yes the difference is we are not in the sunbelt and ULL is and they trash their own conference. Yeah there is a difference.

LOL. I just noticed on Chief's sigline that stAte is a Tier 1 university. Never knew that. Know why? Because it's not one of the first words out of their fans mouths.

(12-19-2015 05:43 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 02:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 02:28 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Everyone knows that Engineers can't spell. What we do well however, is count our money. And my point to you is that if any of your conference mates would go over to Ragin Pagin they would be treated to the same arrogance of thinking you are too good for the Sunbelr. or the SUCKBELT AND YOU CALL IT. At least we don't trash our own conference

I've been to Ragin pagin, I've been to BB&B

There is no comparison.

Yes the difference is we are not in the sunbelt and ULL is and they trash their own conference. Yeah there is a difference.

So?

And the same 5 people that ***** about playing ark state are no different than the same five people on ULL board that ***** about being in the "suckbelt". Does it make the whole school look bad? Sure. But it's a stupid message board. Message boards are usually filled by the same thirty posters

(12-19-2015 06:30 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  And the same 5 people that ***** about playing ark state are no different than the same five people on ULL board that ***** about being in the "suckbelt". Does it make the whole school look bad? Sure. But it's a stupid message board. Message boards are usually filled by the same thirty posters

You're starting to sound shrill. Perhaps you should go back to counting your money?

(12-19-2015 06:41 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 06:30 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  And the same 5 people that ***** about playing ark state are no different than the same five people on ULL board that ***** about being in the "suckbelt". Does it make the whole school look bad? Sure. But it's a stupid message board. Message boards are usually filled by the same thirty posters

You're starting to sound shrill. Perhaps you should go back to counting your money?

he has people that counts his money for him

(12-19-2015 06:45 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 06:41 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 06:30 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  And the same 5 people that ***** about playing ark state are no different than the same five people on ULL board that ***** about being in the "suckbelt". Does it make the whole school look bad? Sure. But it's a stupid message board. Message boards are usually filled by the same thirty posters

You're starting to sound shrill. Perhaps you should go back to counting your money?

he has people that counts his money for him

Count me impressed.

(12-19-2015 06:41 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(12-19-2015 06:30 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  And the same 5 people that ***** about playing ark state are no different than the same five people on ULL board that ***** about being in the "suckbelt". Does it make the whole school look bad? Sure. But it's a stupid message board. Message boards are usually filled by the same thirty posters

You're starting to sound shrill. Perhaps you should go back to counting your money?

Or take a larger dose of midol.

It's kinda nice to have conference mates talk smack for you....though, I miss doing it.

(12-19-2015 06:54 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  It's kinda nice to have conference mates talk smack for you....

Let's see if you agree once you've seen our bill.