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OT: Daughter might end up going to UC
Can anyone let me know more about the Engineering program at UC? More specifically, what your experiences were with going to UC as an engineering student? My daughter has a few years, but based on where we live, UC would be a school of consideration. I think it might be a great place for her to go - assuming her interests in engineering remains.
 
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Mechanical Eng class of '11 here.

My choices were down to UC and GTECH, which is a top 5 Mech Eng school. Choice came to UC for two main reasons:
  • UC emphasis on co-op learning, GT was very indifferent to almost against students getting professional experience while in school.
  • GT being over $32k a year out of state (in 2006)

I really think co-oping, no matter where you go, should be the choice of all students. I learned so much when I was on the job about applying engineering principals; more than the theoretical principals taught in the class. Also, because engineering can be so diverse in career option, getting on the job training can help steer students to what they really want to do when they get out as opposed to taking a job and realizing later they want to do something different.

Best of luck to your daughter. If you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask or send me a message.
 
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UC alumni are too modest when it comes to co-op. It's an extraordinary program. Our daughter and son-in-law are both UC engineering graduates and did co-op experiences in Europe; earning while learning. In fact, co-op earnings greatly reduce the actual out-of-pocket costs for that degree.

I've heard from employers that they prefer UC engineering graduates to those from non co-op schools because they understand the world of work day one on the job and bring a great work ethic. Highly recommend the program.
 
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For those who don't know me, I'm a Pitt grad who attended the college of engineering. I had access to our co-op program and it's critical to your development IMHO. Pitt is way too expensive to send my daughter there or even consider it - especially since I live in the next state over. We're closer to OSU, but want to cover all our bases first. When I grew up, I ultimately chose Pitt over PSU. My daughter seems to be similar in that regard, so won't be surprised if she doesn't consider OSU at all.
 
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I am a graduate of UC's College of Engineering as well (Civil and Environmental) and would have to agree with the sentiments shared above. Co-op is essential to a student's development in the field of engineering and I typically tell the students I work with to choose a school that has their curriculum built around it, of which there are 11 nationally and two in Ohio (Cincinnati and my current place of employment, Toledo). The reason I push people towards this rather than a school that simply offers co-op is due to the fact that those schools with it built into the curriculum are forced to support every student due to it being a graduate requirement, rather than it being surplus to those requirements at schools such as Ohio State, Michigan, etc. Plus, the fact that I came out of school with $42,000 in my accounts, rather than in the red that amount was a major reason why I had the freedom to choose the correct industry for me. Cincinnati did wonders for me educationally and working with many of the faculty and staff in the College of Engineering at UT, I can tell you that it is much of the same here, just at a lower cost and with a higher potential of scholarships.

Typically you will see more and more students who are looking at the Engineering field in Ohio choosing between Cincinnati and Toledo due to their co-op programs and their highly reputable institutions (both in the Top 50 nationally as Engineering Schools) OVER Ohio State, Case Western, etc.

I personally chose the University of Cincinnati over the University of Illinois (#1 Civil Engineering School at the time), the University of Texas-Austin (#2 Civil Engineering School at the time), Columbia (WAY too expensive for my modest middle class family, ain't no dossbigs in my house), Northwestern, Purdue, and Michigan State. The co-op program and the feel of campus, which I'll admit is VERY different from the 'normal' higher education environment, were the two major factors that won out as scholarships made cost not a primary issue at any of the institutions I was looking at outside of Columbia.
 
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(12-18-2015 08:05 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Can anyone let me know more about the Engineering program at UC? More specifically, what your experiences were with going to UC as an engineering student? My daughter has a few years, but based on where we live, UC would be a school of consideration. I think it might be a great place for her to go - assuming her interests in engineering remains.

I have a Bachelors and Masters in Aerospace Engineering from UC. I'd be happy to talk to you and her if you'd like. I can type out my experiences, but a quick phone call or grabbing a cup of coffee might work out better unless you have specific questions.

My experience with the engineering program at UC was overwhelmingly positive.
 
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Thanks for the comments so far. I've worked with a number of UC guys during both co-ops and after graduation. I have a lot of respect for the quality of the engineering school based on those interactions. At this point, my daughter is a few years out yet before having to make that final decision, but it's going to fly by fast before that time comes.
 
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Totally agree with the sentiments above. I'm a grad of College of Engineering class of 2001. I can't emphasize enough the value of co-op, and it's not just to get practical engineering work experience. The value goes WAY beyond that. Personally, I never worked a day as an engineer after graduating. I was a Material Science major, and went straight into IT consulting upon graduating. I never would have had the opportunity that I had upon graduation if it weren't for Co-op. The value of that experience in interacting with professionals in a work environment gives you so much to draw upon when it comes time to interview. It's hard to put into words, but it expands your ability to communicate professionally, to think on your feet, to overcome fears, and in general gives you a confidence that you just can't get by sitting in a classroom.

I am so grateful for the experience that I got in the UC Engineering program and for the amazing opportunities that it opened for me during my career.
 
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In the time I have been here I have become extremely impressed with UC's engineering program in large part due to the co-op program by ProPEL. Practical experience goes so far towards getting a job post-graduation no matter what field you study. In case any of you do not know ProPEL is where Greg Harrell now works. Greg was a great asset to Athletics when he was here and is now taking those efforts to helping students in the engineering programs.
 
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I have two degrees from UC and all these engineers around here make me feel very inadequate, so there's that.
 
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My wife graduated from UC with an engineering degree. She had three job offers for really really good money prior to graduation (the COOP program is pure gold). She worked as an engineer in the public sector for 12 years. She is now a division level big wig at a fortune 10 company.

Her degree from UC has served her very well.
 
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(12-18-2015 10:37 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  My wife graduated from UC with an engineering degree. She had three job offers for really really good money prior to graduation (the COOP program is pure gold). She worked as an engineer in the public sector for 12 years. She is now a division level big wig at a fortune 10 company.

Her degree from UC has served her very well.


So about that gift to the arena project....

03-wink
 
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I earned a bachelor's in Mechanical Engineering from UC back in the day. I chose UC over Purdue at the time, purely for the co-op program. I worked in the field for 13 years before "retiring" for be an at home Dad for my two daughters. I had enough money left in my checking account after graduation to make the first payment on a new car (it helped that I invested heavily in the stock market during my co-op terms and doubled a nice gamble after the crash of 1987).

I was able to "retire" because my wife was also a UC Mechanical Engineering graduate and she is now a vice president of Engineering at a major company. She agreed with me that co-op was great not so much for showing her what job she wanted after graduation, but what types of jobs she did not want to do.

My oldest daughter is in her fourth year in Biomedical Engineering at UC, which she chose over Northwestern. Our college savings got her through her freshman year, and her co-op job (over $20/hour) has paid for her next three years. We will likely have to loan her some money for that senior year, but it shouldn't be too much. She might have made it through on her own if not for the week long trips she took as part of some classes to both Rome and Scotland.

My youngest daughter is in her first year in aerospace engineering at UC, which she chose over Case Western. Her co-op job might be tougher as her goal is to work on bicycle aerodynamics in wind tunnels. There has to be thousands of jobs doing that, right? She is enjoying things so far, especially being in the band. She is disappointed their is no bowl game to go to, but hopeful of being part of the pep band that will go to the conference basketball tournament in Orlando. She just joined her older sister in renting a house next year just northwest of DAAP with a bunch of other band members.
 
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(12-18-2015 10:37 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  My wife graduated from UC with an engineering degree. She had three job offers for really really good money prior to graduation (the COOP program is pure gold). She worked as an engineer in the public sector for 12 years. She is now a division level big wig at a fortune 10 company.

Her degree from UC has served her very well.


So about that gift to the arena project....

03-wink



lol probably will
 
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(12-18-2015 11:14 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  I earned a bachelor's in Mechanical Engineering from UC back in the day. I chose UC over Purdue at the time, purely for the co-op program. I worked in the field for 13 years before "retiring" for be an at home Dad for my two daughters. I had enough money left in my checking account after graduation to make the first payment on a new car (it helped that I invested heavily in the stock market during my co-op terms and doubled a nice gamble after the crash of 1987).

I was able to "retire" because my wife was also a UC Mechanical Engineering graduate and she is now a vice president of Engineering at a major company. She agreed with me that co-op was great not so much for showing her what job she wanted after graduation, but what types of jobs she did not want to do.

My oldest daughter is in her fourth year in Biomedical Engineering at UC, which she chose over Northwestern. Our college savings got her through her freshman year, and her co-op job (over $20/hour) has paid for her next three years. We will likely have to loan her some money for that senior year, but it shouldn't be too much. She might have made it through on her own if not for the week long trips she took as part of some classes to both Rome and Scotland.

My youngest daughter is in her first year in aerospace engineering at UC, which she chose over Case Western. Her co-op job might be tougher as her goal is to work on bicycle aerodynamics in wind tunnels. There has to be thousands of jobs doing that, right? She is enjoying things so far, especially being in the band. She is disappointed their is no bowl game to go to, but hopeful of being part of the pep band that will go to the conference basketball tournament in Orlando. She just joined her older sister in renting a house next year just northwest of DAAP with a bunch of other band members.

My daughter plays trumpet at a HS that takes music seriously. Her HS band competes at the OMEA's for marching band and they have been getting those superior ratings for the past several years. Went to OSU for their invitational this year as well. Good to hear about another engineering student that also plays for the MB. Not sure if my daughter will want to continue that into college, but she has a talent for music so I wouldn't be surprised if she did.
 
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I did the co-op program, but I double majored in business so I can't speak to the engineering college directly.

I will say that the reason UC's co-op program is so successful is the sheer network they have with employers. They've been doing it for so long they have a great network. Even if a job isn't explicitly listed, often they know someone who can set up interviews if there is a company you are interested in (obviously this isn't the case with any business, but I was surprised at the network). They obviously network well in Cincinnati, but the reach goes international. I interviewed for jobs in Cincinnati, Atlanta, Chicago, London, and Sydney during my time there. I lived in Sydney for 6 months and it was one of the experiences that opened my world. Just awesome stuff from the department there.

Easy to sound like homers here, but the co-op program is world class. The reputation for UC's program speaks for itself. Good luck to you and your daughter on navigating the college choice landscape.
 
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Couldn't agree more with the other comments already mentioned. First rate classroom experience and a co-op program (UC actually invented co-op back in 1904 I believe) with opportunities with major companies all over the U.S. as well as Europe and Asia, particularly in Germany and Japan.

My son was also very active with the UC chapter of Engineers Without Borders. They have done amazing work both locally and in developing countries. For instance, the volunteer students and professors have been working on bringing sustainable year-round water systems to African villages that have never had ready access to clean drinkable water before. Really life-changing experiences not just for the local people but for the students involved.

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Old guy here (class of '85), but I lived with 4 engineers and they are all very successful. As many have said, the co-op program is golden ( I co-oped in business; wouldn't trade that for the world.).
 
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(12-18-2015 12:22 PM)miko33 Wrote:  My daughter plays trumpet at a HS that takes music seriously. Her HS band competes at the OMEA's for marching band and they have been getting those superior ratings for the past several years. Went to OSU for their invitational this year as well. Good to hear about another engineering student that also plays for the MB. Not sure if my daughter will want to continue that into college, but she has a talent for music so I wouldn't be surprised if she did.

Around half of the UC band are engineering students. Just be sure to know the huge differences between a band like OSU's and UC's. At OSU, the band members often have to take a reduced courseload in the fall because of the huge time demands of the marching band. UC works the opposite. With all those engineers, they have to reduce their time for band practice to accommodate their engineering workload.

It is all a matter of which you wish to prioritize.
 
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So I cruised by the CEAS website and looked up the major req'ts for ChemE and EE majors (selected the 2020 graduate PDFs). When did UC change the Engr majors to allow students to opt out of college physics, chemistry and the maths? When I went thru it in the 90s at Pitt, We all had to take Calc I, II, III, Linear Algebra and Diff Eq for math, then we had to take all the College level Physics courses (2 or 3 semester sequence, depending on if you were in honors or regular) and Chem 1 and 2. Also, everyone had to take an intro to programming class too. When did all that change?
 
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