(12-17-2015 09:18 AM)ballhog Wrote:  Isn't Illinois a train wreck of an athletic program right now? If Bowen is considering going there, does that speak to our chances (or lack of) of getting into the Big 12 or am I reading too much into this?

Illinois is a mess because their football coach/team is a mess and there is no AD right now. There's not a huge scandal at Illinois, just a lot of turnover. Even so, Illinois is a P5 school and it is a very good job, even amongst P5 schools. I would probably put the Illinois AD job as a slightly-lower-than the median job in the P5, which puts it above every G5 AD job out there.

(12-17-2015 09:16 AM)fsquid Wrote:  boosters play AD at every major school. You can either play the game or let the game play you.

Heck, Texas' AD was a booster until they hired him as the interim (now permanent though '17-'18) AD,

Not sure I'd be interested in the IL AD job. Perennial losers (occasional BB success) in most sports & lot of athletics turn over. Probably bigger salary but not a destination job & it has the likely peril of being fired on the resume.

(12-17-2015 09:33 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:18 AM)EdmondTiger Wrote:  Boone Pickens does a decent job running the OK State athletic department. He's more of a Prez/AD though.

*IF* we get a BXII invite it will be guys like Brad Martin, Fred Smith, Boone Pickens et al that get that done. Is the 'Brad Martins' that we can't afford to loose --

Sorry pet peeve, lose not loose.

(12-17-2015 03:23 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  My loyalties are not centered around any of them, so it's Ok by me if any of them leave. We'll just get another one--even a better one.

No need to be clingy.

maturity

i hate it now, when i look around the room

and realize that i am the adult in the room

(12-16-2015 04:45 PM)jlbphila Wrote:  Honestly, I'd be comfortable if Bowen left right now. He got the Norvell hire done and did a fine job there, so if he's itching to move up the timing is now.

Get someone else in to spearhead the facilities project and deal with basketball this offseason.

Timing-wise, this would work well.

(12-17-2015 03:23 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  My loyalties are not centered around any of them, so it's Ok by me if any of them leave. We'll just get another one--even a better one.

No need to be clingy.

And this is as it should be. Be loyal to the university not it's hierarchy. They come and go but the university will always stand strong! Go Tigers!!!

(12-17-2015 09:52 AM)ddramone Wrote:  Illinois is a mess because their football coach/team is a mess and there is no AD right now. There's not a huge scandal at Illinois, just a lot of turnover. Even so, Illinois is a P5 school and it is a very good job, even amongst P5 schools. I would probably put the Illinois AD job as a slightly-lower-than the median job in the P5, which puts it above every G5 AD job out there.

Things are going well for Bowen right now and like Fuente he's going to make hay while the sun shines.

(12-17-2015 11:55 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:52 AM)ddramone Wrote:  Illinois is a mess because their football coach/team is a mess and there is no AD right now. There's not a huge scandal at Illinois, just a lot of turnover. Even so, Illinois is a P5 school and it is a very good job, even amongst P5 schools. I would probably put the Illinois AD job as a slightly-lower-than the median job in the P5, which puts it above every G5 AD job out there.

Things are going well for Bowen right now and like Fuente he's going to make hay while the sun shines.

The only things good about the IL AD job are it likely pays more & is at a P5 school. But it comes with great risk, given their constant turn-over. And IL has shown no hesitancy in firing coaches & ADs.

(12-16-2015 08:09 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 04:45 PM)jlbphila Wrote:  Honestly, I'd be comfortable if Bowen left right now. He got the Norvell hire done and did a fine job there, so if he's itching to move up the timing is now.

Get someone else in to spearhead the facilities project and deal with basketball this offseason.

Great point. Totally agree.

Is Illinois really a "step up"? Is having a lower level P5 job that big a deal for an AD like it is a coach?

I hope the Dude stays, but if he goes to Illinois I hope he gives us a football home and home