(12-18-2015 09:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 10:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:50 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:02 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 08:16 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  dude... you gonna boot everyone out of the country? I say we start off with low IQ fellas like yourself. WE NEED TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! and it starts with deporting low level IQ people to Mongolia.

We either have a country or we don't. We must protect our borders and people here illegally must go home. This is the way it has to be.

We don't.

We have no choice.

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Well we've made the choice to do nothing the last 25 years and survived. There are always choices.

The worst choice is to try to round them all up and kick them out. If you've lived in the southwest or in rural communities you would understand. Deporting 11-12 million people would shut down the economy. Farmers wouldn't be able to get the crop in. Meat packing and chicken plants would shut down. Construction projects across the whole southwest would stop. Virtually all the restaurants in the southwest and in many other places would shut down. Buildings wouldn't get cleaned as they would lose their whole cleaning crew. Families wouldn't be able to find nannies to take care of their kids so it would be impossible for both parents to work.

If you live in Idaho maybe you don't understand this, but Trump should.

There are two distinct issues-what do you do about leaky borders and what do you do about the people already here?

We are either a nation of laws or we aren't. We have no choice. Besides, the good ones (I assume some are good) can come back. Construction projects would still get done, they'd just cost a bit more. It will be terrific for the economy. Americans working for American wages. America will be great again.

(12-18-2015 09:17 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 10:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:50 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:02 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  We either have a country or we don't. We must protect our borders and people here illegally must go home. This is the way it has to be.

We don't.

We have no choice.

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Well we've made the choice to do nothing the last 25 years and survived. There are always choices.

The worst choice is to try to round them all up and kick them out. If you've lived in the southwest or in rural communities you would understand. Deporting 11-12 million people would shut down the economy. Farmers wouldn't be able to get the crop in. Meat packing and chicken plants would shut down. Construction projects across the whole southwest would stop. Virtually all the restaurants in the southwest and in many other places would shut down. Buildings wouldn't get cleaned as they would lose their whole cleaning crew. Families wouldn't be able to find nannies to take care of their kids so it would be impossible for both parents to work.

If you live in Idaho maybe you don't understand this, but Trump should.

There are two distinct issues-what do you do about leaky borders and what do you do about the people already here?

We are either a nation of laws or we aren't. We have no choice. Besides, the good ones (I assume some are good) can come back. Construction projects would still get done, they'd just cost a bit more. It will be terrific for the economy. Americans working for American wages. America will be great again.

And it will be done yumanely.

(12-18-2015 09:19 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:17 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 10:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:50 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  We don't.

We have no choice.

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Well we've made the choice to do nothing the last 25 years and survived. There are always choices.

The worst choice is to try to round them all up and kick them out. If you've lived in the southwest or in rural communities you would understand. Deporting 11-12 million people would shut down the economy. Farmers wouldn't be able to get the crop in. Meat packing and chicken plants would shut down. Construction projects across the whole southwest would stop. Virtually all the restaurants in the southwest and in many other places would shut down. Buildings wouldn't get cleaned as they would lose their whole cleaning crew. Families wouldn't be able to find nannies to take care of their kids so it would be impossible for both parents to work.

If you live in Idaho maybe you don't understand this, but Trump should.

There are two distinct issues-what do you do about leaky borders and what do you do about the people already here?

We are either a nation of laws or we aren't. We have no choice. Besides, the good ones (I assume some are good) can come back. Construction projects would still get done, they'd just cost a bit more. It will be terrific for the economy. Americans working for American wages. America will be great again.

And it will be done yumanely.

I noe, right?

(12-18-2015 09:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 10:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:50 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:02 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 08:16 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  dude... you gonna boot everyone out of the country? I say we start off with low IQ fellas like yourself. WE NEED TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! and it starts with deporting low level IQ people to Mongolia.

We either have a country or we don't. We must protect our borders and people here illegally must go home. This is the way it has to be.

We don't.

We have no choice.

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Well we've made the choice to do nothing the last 25 years and survived. There are always choices.

The worst choice is to try to round them all up and kick them out. If you've lived in the southwest or in rural communities you would understand. Deporting 11-12 million people would shut down the economy. Farmers wouldn't be able to get the crop in. Meat packing and chicken plants would shut down. Construction projects across the whole southwest would stop. Virtually all the restaurants in the southwest and in many other places would shut down. Buildings wouldn't get cleaned as they would lose their whole cleaning crew. Families wouldn't be able to find nannies to take care of their kids so it would be impossible for both parents to work.

If you live in Idaho maybe you don't understand this, but Trump should.

There are two distinct issues-what do you do about leaky borders and what do you do about the people already here?

We've had a workable green card program for decades with migrant workers. What is wrong with Them registered to get a green card first, be vetted then admitted, pay taxes and return home when the green card expires and reapply for another term. They are not citizens, but They are granted working permits. They can apply for receiving benefits while legally here and eligible for tax returns from the money They paid in as well . I'm not sure how Social Security payouts are if They contributed but this is a path to citizenship far better than granting illegals amnesty for breaking the law.

(12-18-2015 09:27 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  We've had a workable green card program for decades with migrant workers. What is wrong with Them registered to get a green card first, be vetted then admitted, pay taxes and return home when the green card expires and reapply for another term. They are not citizens, but They are granted working permits. They can apply for receiving benefits while legally here and eligible for tax returns from the money They paid in as well . I'm not sure how Social Security payouts are if They contributed but this is a path to citizenship far better than granting illegals amnesty for breaking the law.

Not necessarily a path to citizenship, but a path to legal residency. It's pretty much what every other country does, so why don't we?

(12-18-2015 09:53 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:27 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  We've had a workable green card program for decades with migrant workers. What is wrong with Them registered to get a green card first, be vetted then admitted, pay taxes and return home when the green card expires and reapply for another term. They are not citizens, but They are granted working permits. They can apply for receiving benefits while legally here and eligible for tax returns from the money They paid in as well . I'm not sure how Social Security payouts are if They contributed but this is a path to citizenship far better than granting illegals amnesty for breaking the law.

Not necessarily a path to citizenship, but a path to legal residency. It's pretty much what every other country does, so why don't we?

Because this is Murica, and we play by our own rules. Not the rules of those socialist european nations.

(12-18-2015 10:22 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:53 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:27 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  We've had a workable green card program for decades with migrant workers. What is wrong with Them registered to get a green card first, be vetted then admitted, pay taxes and return home when the green card expires and reapply for another term. They are not citizens, but They are granted working permits. They can apply for receiving benefits while legally here and eligible for tax returns from the money They paid in as well . I'm not sure how Social Security payouts are if They contributed but this is a path to citizenship far better than granting illegals amnesty for breaking the law.

Not necessarily a path to citizenship, but a path to legal residency. It's pretty much what every other country does, so why don't we?

Because this is Murica, and we play by our own rules. Not the rules of those socialist european nations.

Not just the socialist European nations. Pretty much everybody. Because that's what makes sense. You don't have to agree with everything they do to realize that some of the time they get it right.

(12-18-2015 09:17 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 10:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:50 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:02 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  We either have a country or we don't. We must protect our borders and people here illegally must go home. This is the way it has to be.

We don't.

We have no choice.

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Well we've made the choice to do nothing the last 25 years and survived. There are always choices.

The worst choice is to try to round them all up and kick them out. If you've lived in the southwest or in rural communities you would understand. Deporting 11-12 million people would shut down the economy. Farmers wouldn't be able to get the crop in. Meat packing and chicken plants would shut down. Construction projects across the whole southwest would stop. Virtually all the restaurants in the southwest and in many other places would shut down. Buildings wouldn't get cleaned as they would lose their whole cleaning crew. Families wouldn't be able to find nannies to take care of their kids so it would be impossible for both parents to work.

If you live in Idaho maybe you don't understand this, but Trump should.

There are two distinct issues-what do you do about leaky borders and what do you do about the people already here?

We are either a nation of laws or we aren't. We have no choice. Besides, the good ones (I assume some are good) can come back. Construction projects would still get done, they'd just cost a bit more. It will be terrific for the economy. Americans working for American wages. America will be great again.

You don't comprehend. All the construction in the southwest is done by Hispanics, most of whom are illegal. There aren't enough skilled others left.

(12-18-2015 09:53 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:27 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  We've had a workable green card program for decades with migrant workers. What is wrong with Them registered to get a green card first, be vetted then admitted, pay taxes and return home when the green card expires and reapply for another term. They are not citizens, but They are granted working permits. They can apply for receiving benefits while legally here and eligible for tax returns from the money They paid in as well . I'm not sure how Social Security payouts are if They contributed but this is a path to citizenship far better than granting illegals amnesty for breaking the law.

Not necessarily a path to citizenship, but a path to legal residency. It's pretty much what every other country does, so why don't we?

We should do that going forward. That's the other part of the problem. Dealing with the existing people is a separate issue. They are too much an integral part of the economy to kick out.

(12-18-2015 12:08 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:53 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:27 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  We've had a workable green card program for decades with migrant workers. What is wrong with Them registered to get a green card first, be vetted then admitted, pay taxes and return home when the green card expires and reapply for another term. They are not citizens, but They are granted working permits. They can apply for receiving benefits while legally here and eligible for tax returns from the money They paid in as well . I'm not sure how Social Security payouts are if They contributed but this is a path to citizenship far better than granting illegals amnesty for breaking the law.

Not necessarily a path to citizenship, but a path to legal residency. It's pretty much what every other country does, so why don't we?

We should do that going forward. That's the other part of the problem. Dealing with the existing people is a separate issue. They are too much an integral part of the economy to kick out.

I'd like to see some stats on that. There are plenty of unemployed people in this country capable of doing many of the jobs illegal immigrants do, they simply feel those jobs are beneath them. It would be a painful process all around, but in the long run it would probably be a net gain for the country.

(12-18-2015 10:51 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 10:22 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:53 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:27 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  We've had a workable green card program for decades with migrant workers. What is wrong with Them registered to get a green card first, be vetted then admitted, pay taxes and return home when the green card expires and reapply for another term. They are not citizens, but They are granted working permits. They can apply for receiving benefits while legally here and eligible for tax returns from the money They paid in as well . I'm not sure how Social Security payouts are if They contributed but this is a path to citizenship far better than granting illegals amnesty for breaking the law.

Not necessarily a path to citizenship, but a path to legal residency. It's pretty much what every other country does, so why don't we?

Because this is Murica, and we play by our own rules. Not the rules of those socialist european nations.

Not just the socialist European nations. Pretty much everybody. Because that's what makes sense. You don't have to agree with everything they do to realize that some of the time they get it right.

You are wasting your time talking sense with that dude. He isn't interested in debate, only making snarky comments while looking down his nose at others.

(12-18-2015 10:22 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:53 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:27 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  We've had a workable green card program for decades with migrant workers. What is wrong with Them registered to get a green card first, be vetted then admitted, pay taxes and return home when the green card expires and reapply for another term. They are not citizens, but They are granted working permits. They can apply for receiving benefits while legally here and eligible for tax returns from the money They paid in as well . I'm not sure how Social Security payouts are if They contributed but this is a path to citizenship far better than granting illegals amnesty for breaking the law.

Not necessarily a path to citizenship, but a path to legal residency. It's pretty much what every other country does, so why don't we?

Because this is Murica, and we play by our own rules. Not the rules of those socialist european nations.

How about Mejico? Go try strolling on in there unannounced and uninvited. Hell, you can't just show up in Canada either, but here? Come on in! Here's some free schit and what else can we do for you? Find you a home? Send you to another city somewhere? It's ridiculous.

(12-18-2015 01:42 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 12:08 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:53 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:27 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  We've had a workable green card program for decades with migrant workers. What is wrong with Them registered to get a green card first, be vetted then admitted, pay taxes and return home when the green card expires and reapply for another term. They are not citizens, but They are granted working permits. They can apply for receiving benefits while legally here and eligible for tax returns from the money They paid in as well . I'm not sure how Social Security payouts are if They contributed but this is a path to citizenship far better than granting illegals amnesty for breaking the law.

Not necessarily a path to citizenship, but a path to legal residency. It's pretty much what every other country does, so why don't we?

We should do that going forward. That's the other part of the problem. Dealing with the existing people is a separate issue. They are too much an integral part of the economy to kick out.

I'd like to see some stats on that. There are plenty of unemployed people in this country capable of doing many of the jobs illegal immigrants do, they simply feel those jobs are beneath them. It would be a painful process all around, but in the long run it would probably be a net gain for the country.

You could start with 11-12 million. That's a significant part of the population. As for painful, we are talking Great Depression painful.
Owl probably understands what I am talking about. Literally, 99% of construction workers in Texas are Hispanic. Overwhelming percentages of the nannies, housekeepers, restaurant workers, maintenance crews and landscaping crews are as well.

You can go down to rural South Georgia and see the badly done Spanish signs in the grocery store to understand how big they are in the farm belt.

Over time you can fill new jobs with legal residents, but you can't just wipe out that sector of the economy.

(12-18-2015 09:15 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 10:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:50 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:02 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  We either have a country or we don't. We must protect our borders and people here illegally must go home. This is the way it has to be.

We don't.

We have no choice.

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Well we've made the choice to do nothing the last 25 years and survived. There are always choices.

The worst choice is to try to round them all up and kick them out. If you've lived in the southwest or in rural communities you would understand. Deporting 11-12 million people would shut down the economy. Farmers wouldn't be able to get the crop in. Meat packing and chicken plants would shut down. Construction projects across the whole southwest would stop. Virtually all the restaurants in the southwest and in many other places would shut down. Buildings wouldn't get cleaned as they would lose their whole cleaning crew. Families wouldn't be able to find nannies to take care of their kids so it would be impossible for both parents to work.

If you live in Idaho maybe you don't understand this, but Trump should.

There are two distinct issues-what do you do about leaky borders and what do you do about the people already here?

I think the number is closer to 30 million. We will need deportation squads to round them up. Hopefully, most will self-deport. Then we must manage our current Muslim population. Then we will have a country again. There are millions of people out of work right now that can do those jobs.

Take your ass back to Ireland, we don't need your type here

(12-20-2015 04:08 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:15 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 10:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 09:50 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  We don't.

We have no choice.

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Well we've made the choice to do nothing the last 25 years and survived. There are always choices.

The worst choice is to try to round them all up and kick them out. If you've lived in the southwest or in rural communities you would understand. Deporting 11-12 million people would shut down the economy. Farmers wouldn't be able to get the crop in. Meat packing and chicken plants would shut down. Construction projects across the whole southwest would stop. Virtually all the restaurants in the southwest and in many other places would shut down. Buildings wouldn't get cleaned as they would lose their whole cleaning crew. Families wouldn't be able to find nannies to take care of their kids so it would be impossible for both parents to work.

If you live in Idaho maybe you don't understand this, but Trump should.

There are two distinct issues-what do you do about leaky borders and what do you do about the people already here?

I think the number is closer to 30 million. We will need deportation squads to round them up. Hopefully, most will self-deport. Then we must manage our current Muslim population. Then we will have a country again. There are millions of people out of work right now that can do those jobs.

Take your ass back to Ireland, we don't need your type here

My type made this country great and will make it great again.

(12-20-2015 07:24 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 04:08 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:15 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 10:00 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  We have no choice.

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Well we've made the choice to do nothing the last 25 years and survived. There are always choices.

The worst choice is to try to round them all up and kick them out. If you've lived in the southwest or in rural communities you would understand. Deporting 11-12 million people would shut down the economy. Farmers wouldn't be able to get the crop in. Meat packing and chicken plants would shut down. Construction projects across the whole southwest would stop. Virtually all the restaurants in the southwest and in many other places would shut down. Buildings wouldn't get cleaned as they would lose their whole cleaning crew. Families wouldn't be able to find nannies to take care of their kids so it would be impossible for both parents to work.

If you live in Idaho maybe you don't understand this, but Trump should.

There are two distinct issues-what do you do about leaky borders and what do you do about the people already here?

I think the number is closer to 30 million. We will need deportation squads to round them up. Hopefully, most will self-deport. Then we must manage our current Muslim population. Then we will have a country again. There are millions of people out of work right now that can do those jobs.

Take your ass back to Ireland, we don't need your type here

My type made this country great and will make it great again.

Falling for political slogans is the funniest.

(12-20-2015 10:55 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 07:24 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-20-2015 04:08 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:15 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(12-18-2015 09:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  Well we've made the choice to do nothing the last 25 years and survived. There are always choices.

The worst choice is to try to round them all up and kick them out. If you've lived in the southwest or in rural communities you would understand. Deporting 11-12 million people would shut down the economy. Farmers wouldn't be able to get the crop in. Meat packing and chicken plants would shut down. Construction projects across the whole southwest would stop. Virtually all the restaurants in the southwest and in many other places would shut down. Buildings wouldn't get cleaned as they would lose their whole cleaning crew. Families wouldn't be able to find nannies to take care of their kids so it would be impossible for both parents to work.

If you live in Idaho maybe you don't understand this, but Trump should.

There are two distinct issues-what do you do about leaky borders and what do you do about the people already here?

I think the number is closer to 30 million. We will need deportation squads to round them up. Hopefully, most will self-deport. Then we must manage our current Muslim population. Then we will have a country again. There are millions of people out of work right now that can do those jobs.

Take your ass back to Ireland, we don't need your type here

My type made this country great and will make it great again.

Falling for political slogans is the funniest.

No winning is the funniest.