(12-15-2015 05:42 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 05:40 PM)pirates4lyfe Wrote:  I don't even want to imagine the riots among ECU fans if we finish 5th or 6th next year.

Yup...Compher will be burned at the stake and in effigy.

I'd buy a ticket for that.

1. Houston
2. Memphis
3. Tulsa
4. Navy
5. SMU
6. Tulane

East
1. USF
2. Temple
3. Cincy
4. UCONN
5. ECU
6. UCF

Coaching stability is a big factor in my mind. With that in mind Navy remains a question-mark there.

(12-15-2015 07:59 PM)The Autumn Wind Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 05:42 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 05:40 PM)pirates4lyfe Wrote:  I don't even want to imagine the riots among ECU fans if we finish 5th or 6th next year.

Yup...Compher will be burned at the stake and in effigy.

I'd buy a ticket for that.

I hate it because Coach Mo should be given enough time and not judged harshly if things don't go well immediately, but Compher pretty much made sure patience won't be there. If Ruff had been retained expectations would have been 8-10 wins and competing for a division title or he should be fired. Expectations will be just as high if not higher on Mo and that's not really fair.

(12-15-2015 07:19 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 07:05 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 06:53 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 06:51 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  Absolutely hilarious.

if you find facts hilarious ..sure

You're penalizing us by saying we don't reload. Guess what, no one in this conference including UH reloads.

agreed, which is why alot of this is based around returners on the strenght of that team...why im high on usf, and think uconn might surprise

and side note, if houston keeps the recruiting pace, that might change in the future

Actually I would say that USF reloads, we were just bare when Taggart took over. Weve had the best recruiting class in the confernce two years in a row and were well on our way on pulling it again.
We have three to four top level recruits who are looking at us hard right now, who if we land even half will push us into the top class again. Say what ya will about Taggart but the guy can recruit!

And I think Temple around 2/3rd in the east is about right. They lose way more talent than USF and we hammered them like a virgin on prom night.

All the schools with new Head coaches I dont expect alot out of. First years are almost always not up to par, with Houston being the RARE exception... and I honestly think some of that is because your last coach was actually pretty good.

ECU
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(12-15-2015 07:49 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I think people are trolling ECU at this point. We return our entire team and have 2 capable QBs as opposed to a third stringer. James Summers will move over to WR. Derrell Scott steps in at RB. We will be pretty damn good.

ECU fans on this board are easy bait. We completely crapped the bed this year with a piss poor AAC effort. Next year we have a new coach and new QB so I dont blame AAC fans for picking us 5th or 6th in the AAC East.

You know and I know that with a decent QB we finish better. The OL was a MASH unit for much of last year so we can only hope that gets better. The running game should be much better with Derrell Scott and other solid RB's returning. The WR corp should be as deadly as ever with some new contributors coming in with a solid returning set of WR's.

Depending on how the new staff implements their schemes we have the talent to finish 2-3rd in the East.

Lol

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(12-15-2015 07:36 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  It's all part of his anti-Temple agenda

anti temple agenda?????

why would anyone have a anti-temple agenda, you haven't been good enough for that long for anyone to care that much about temple

ask the non-bandwagon temple fans , the ones who didnt only recently start posting because temple was winning (and that bandwagon clearly includes you)

but i was on the temple hype train early last year and even jumped on it even harder when robbie came back....when temple and ecu fans were non stop debating on who would be better preseason, ask the real temple fans who's side i was on....

ecu lost a ton and i said temple was going to be force to recon with, with all the players they returned and ecu fans were nonstop giving THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS you are trying to give ...

(12-15-2015 05:35 PM)pesik Wrote:  Ill play

West:

1) Houston: returns a ton, adds elite recruits, second year in system
2) Navy: i expect some falloff but for navy its about the system not players (i expect a 8 win type season)
3) Tulsa: should be marginally improved but i still question the caliber of athletes they have, san WR
4) Memphis- new system, new coach, new qb, defense wasnt very good to Begin with
5) SMU- might have one of the biggest jump improvement next year, most stars this year were freshmen, chad adds his players, second year under him, but mountains aren't built overnight
6) Tulane- I like the hire, but tulane as is isnt built to run his system, it will take time

East

1) USF: returns basically everyone from a team that looked dominant to finish the year, and will add more top recruits
2) Cincy: losses every WR but adds 2 4star transfer wr, pretty much everything else returns
3a) Uconn: my suprise, they return A ton, if diaco is ever going to be successsful it will be next year
3b) Temple: a defense team that losses everyone on defense..on paper should have a huge fall off, but memphis didnt from last year, can temple replicate that?
5) ECU: i dont expect many wins but they will be tough
6) UCF: there are questions every where from qb to rb to how to respond to a winless season

ECU: based off what? Most of the skill guys are back, absolutely loaded at QB and RB. DL and LB are fine the secondary should improve under new leadership and #28 is done. Even with Ruff back I would have said 8 wins was likely. Especially with the depth at QB next year. Benkert will be back the Neal? Kid, Kemp, Jacobs, and the commit we have right now and Summers is up in the air. But, Summers will likely move to WR. With Jones, Grayson, Brown, etc. WR is still very deep. O-line will improve as well. I think you are way off here. We 5 of our 7 loses were by one possession and that was with a 3rd string QB and Summers.

(12-15-2015 09:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 07:36 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  It's all part of his anti-Temple agenda

anti temple agenda?????

why would anyone have a anti-temple agenda, you haven't been good enough for that long for anyone to care that much about temple

ask the non-bandwagon temple fans , the ones who didnt only recently start posting because temple was winning (and that bandwagon clearly includes you)

but i was on the temple hype train early last year and even jumped on it even harder when robbie came back....when temple and ecu fans were non stop debating on who would be better preseason, ask the real temple fans who's side i was on....

ecu lost a ton and i said temple was going to be force to recon with, with all the players they returned and ecu fans were nonstop giving THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS you are trying to give ...

LOL yeah dude? I'm enrolled at Temple right now and have been a fan since 3rd grade when they didn't win a game all season. GTFO I've posted since last year when we were 6-6 when I found this board.

(12-15-2015 09:47 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 05:35 PM)pesik Wrote:  Ill play

West:

1) Houston: returns a ton, adds elite recruits, second year in system
2) Navy: i expect some falloff but for navy its about the system not players (i expect a 8 win type season)
3) Tulsa: should be marginally improved but i still question the caliber of athletes they have, san WR
4) Memphis- new system, new coach, new qb, defense wasnt very good to Begin with
5) SMU- might have one of the biggest jump improvement next year, most stars this year were freshmen, chad adds his players, second year under him, but mountains aren't built overnight
6) Tulane- I like the hire, but tulane as is isnt built to run his system, it will take time

East

1) USF: returns basically everyone from a team that looked dominant to finish the year, and will add more top recruits
2) Cincy: losses every WR but adds 2 4star transfer wr, pretty much everything else returns
3a) Uconn: my suprise, they return A ton, if diaco is ever going to be successsful it will be next year
3b) Temple: a defense team that losses everyone on defense..on paper should have a huge fall off, but memphis didnt from last year, can temple replicate that?
5) ECU: i dont expect many wins but they will be tough
6) UCF: there are questions every where from qb to rb to how to respond to a winless season

ECU: based off what? Most of the skill guys are back, absolutely loaded at QB and RB. DL and LB are fine the secondary should improve under new leadership and #28 is done. Even with Ruff back I would have said 8 wins was likely. Especially with the depth at QB next year. Benkert will be back the Neal? Kid, Kemp, Jacobs, and the commit we have right now and Summers is up in the air. But, Summers will likely move to WR. With Jones, Grayson, Brown, etc. WR is still very deep. O-line will improve as well. I think you are way off here. We 5 of our 7 loses were by one possession and that was with a 3rd string QB and Summers.

loaded at qb? summers cant pass, kemp had an int problem, benkert has never taken a college snap, and the nelson transfer kid had super subpar stats at minnesota...ecu might have the worst qb situation in the EAST (atleast holman won a confernce championship)..benkert is the x-factor because he is unkown but outside of ecu fan hype (which you guys do for every ecu player ever, plenty who turned out subpar) there isnt anything to indicate he is that great...

loaded at RB?..hairston is done..no other rb on the ecu squad has ever had more the 268 yds in a season

have you looked at your schedule, like at all...where are the "8" likely wins..you are only for sure favorites in 3 games,

and secondly kemp was always your second string not 3rd string qb...he was a comfortable second after your spring camp

now lets add the fact your are completey changing offensive and defensive systems and it will take time to adjust....lets add that during spring their will be plenty of defections (as with every new coach)..lets add that your coach was 7-5 last year..and lets add that everyone in the east except temple is projected better and even a worse temple will still be pretty decent

(12-15-2015 09:59 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 09:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 07:36 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  It's all part of his anti-Temple agenda

anti temple agenda?????

why would anyone have a anti-temple agenda, you haven't been good enough for that long for anyone to care that much about temple

ask the non-bandwagon temple fans , the ones who didnt only recently start posting because temple was winning (and that bandwagon clearly includes you)

but i was on the temple hype train early last year and even jumped on it even harder when robbie came back....when temple and ecu fans were non stop debating on who would be better preseason, ask the real temple fans who's side i was on....

ecu lost a ton and i said temple was going to be force to recon with, with all the players they returned and ecu fans were nonstop giving THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS you are trying to give ...

LOL yeah dude? I'm enrolled at Temple right now and have been a fan since 3rd grade when they didn't win a game all season. GTFO I've posted since last year when we were 6-6 when I found this board.

you're a student explains a ton
and youve been posting "months now" ... so long

go ask the temple fans who were here longer that the offseason if i didnt call temple being extremely good this offseason with my anti-temple agenda ..

UCONN loses no one. All the best players this year were sophomores (including the head coach). UCONN fans expect better than this year...probably 8 wins with a very favorable OOC schedule.

Whatever you think UC 'should do'....deduct three wins from the total. That's what we have right now with our current coaching staff.

(12-15-2015 10:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 09:47 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 05:35 PM)pesik Wrote:  Ill play

West:

1) Houston: returns a ton, adds elite recruits, second year in system
2) Navy: i expect some falloff but for navy its about the system not players (i expect a 8 win type season)
3) Tulsa: should be marginally improved but i still question the caliber of athletes they have, san WR
4) Memphis- new system, new coach, new qb, defense wasnt very good to Begin with
5) SMU- might have one of the biggest jump improvement next year, most stars this year were freshmen, chad adds his players, second year under him, but mountains aren't built overnight
6) Tulane- I like the hire, but tulane as is isnt built to run his system, it will take time

East

1) USF: returns basically everyone from a team that looked dominant to finish the year, and will add more top recruits
2) Cincy: losses every WR but adds 2 4star transfer wr, pretty much everything else returns
3a) Uconn: my suprise, they return A ton, if diaco is ever going to be successsful it will be next year
3b) Temple: a defense team that losses everyone on defense..on paper should have a huge fall off, but memphis didnt from last year, can temple replicate that?
5) ECU: i dont expect many wins but they will be tough
6) UCF: there are questions every where from qb to rb to how to respond to a winless season

ECU: based off what? Most of the skill guys are back, absolutely loaded at QB and RB. DL and LB are fine the secondary should improve under new leadership and #28 is done. Even with Ruff back I would have said 8 wins was likely. Especially with the depth at QB next year. Benkert will be back the Neal? Kid, Kemp, Jacobs, and the commit we have right now and Summers is up in the air. But, Summers will likely move to WR. With Jones, Grayson, Brown, etc. WR is still very deep. O-line will improve as well. I think you are way off here. We 5 of our 7 loses were by one possession and that was with a 3rd string QB and Summers.

loaded at qb? summers cant pass, kemp had an int problem, benkert has never taken a college snap, and the nelson transfer kid had super subpar stats at minnesota...ecu might have the worst qb situation in the EAST (atleast holman won a confernce championship)..benkert is the x-factor because he is unkown but outside of ecu fan hype (which you guys do for every ecu player ever, plenty who turned out subpar) there isnt anything to indicate he is that great...

loaded at RB?..hairston is done..no other rb on the ecu squad has ever had more the 268 yds in a season

have you looked at your schedule, like at all...where are the "8" likely wins..you are only for sure favorites in 3 games,

and secondly kemp was always your second string not 3rd string qb...he was a comfortable second after your spring camp

now lets add the fact your are completey changing offensive and defensive systems and it will take time to adjust....lets add that during spring their will be plenty of defections (as with every new coach)..lets add that your coach was 7-5 last year..and lets add that everyone in the east except temple is projected better and even a worse temple will still be pretty decent

Kemp was 3rd behind Benkert and Keith. Keith was out due to Injury. Kemp was only in the race because Keith was coming back from injury. And Benkert has taken snaps. He score the last TD against UNC in 2014. He played in 3 games leading 3 scoring drives, rushed for 2 of the 3 TD's. So, YES he has played. Nelson is a P5 QB who played for sub par team. Kemp was thrown into the fire after being in the system less than a year and still damn near beat UF and BYU (played only 3 quarters against BYU), Leading the team back down 0-14 to tie the game against VT.

RB, Scott was injuried part of the year, Marquz Grayson returned late from injury, but averages over 5 yards a carry. Derrell Scott, well

4 star RB

http://247sports.com/player/derrell-scott-17825

I'm willing to bet there will be almost no defections from the current team.

(12-15-2015 10:17 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 09:59 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 09:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 07:36 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  It's all part of his anti-Temple agenda

anti temple agenda?????

why would anyone have a anti-temple agenda, you haven't been good enough for that long for anyone to care that much about temple

ask the non-bandwagon temple fans , the ones who didnt only recently start posting because temple was winning (and that bandwagon clearly includes you)

but i was on the temple hype train early last year and even jumped on it even harder when robbie came back....when temple and ecu fans were non stop debating on who would be better preseason, ask the real temple fans who's side i was on....

ecu lost a ton and i said temple was going to be force to recon with, with all the players they returned and ecu fans were nonstop giving THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS you are trying to give ...

LOL yeah dude? I'm enrolled at Temple right now and have been a fan since 3rd grade when they didn't win a game all season. GTFO I've posted since last year when we were 6-6 when I found this board.

you're a student explains a ton
and youve been posting "months now" ... so long

go ask the temple fans who were here longer that the offseason if i didnt call temple being extremely good this offseason with my anti-temple agenda ..

Again I've been posting since the beginning of our 6-6 season. Apparently your reading comprehension is no better than a students so watch your insults.

(12-15-2015 10:21 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Whatever you think UC 'should do'....deduct three wins from the total. That's what we have right now with our current coaching staff.

Heard you're going to extend them too! I hope we get you in Tulsa next season.

(12-15-2015 07:50 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 07:38 PM)Kronke Wrote:  West
1. Houston
-- huge drop --
2. Navy
3. Tulsa
4. Memphis
5. SMU
6. Tulane

East
1. USF
2. Temple
3. Cincy
4. UCF
5. UConn
6. ECU


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UCONN 5th and below UCF is ridiculous. Troll harder next time...

Not trolling. It seems like no one thinks they will, but I assure you, someone will finish 5th and 6th.

I think Frost gets UCF back on track next year. USF and Temple are no brainers. Cincy one way or another always gets 8+ wins. With that said, I think the East will definitely be the stronger division next year.

(12-15-2015 08:47 PM)pirates4lyfe Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 07:59 PM)The Autumn Wind Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 05:42 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 05:40 PM)pirates4lyfe Wrote:  I don't even want to imagine the riots among ECU fans if we finish 5th or 6th next year.

Yup...Compher will be burned at the stake and in effigy.

I'd buy a ticket for that.

I hate it because Coach Mo should be given enough time and not judged harshly if things don't go well immediately, but Compher pretty much made sure patience won't be there. If Ruff had been retained expectations would have been 8-10 wins and competing for a division title or he should be fired. Expectations will be just as high if not higher on Mo and that's not really fair.

Can you imagine the meltdown if ECU loses to State next year in Greenville? Coach McNeil won those games, all the time. Thanks to McNeil, ECU fans have forgotten what it's like to be beaten by teams locally. Compher must go, he didn't honor the "good faith negotiations" part of the employment contract. I hope Coach Montgomery has good attorneys on his side. Comphers integrity is questionable.

I think next year the divisions will flip flop.

Houston will essentially control the West like Temple controlled the East in 2015.

And the East will be highly competitive between USF, Cincy, UConn and Temple like the Memphis, Navy and Houston holy war in the 2015 West.