(12-14-2015 10:40 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 10:33 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  So if Coach Mo dips for a couple of years and then gets better, does that validate your view? Because that prediction is just about what happens for every new coach sans 1 or 2.

so your sayng you like my odds lol

but my comments was more in reference to the fact ive seen a ton of ecu fans saying he a has to win now ..anything less than a winning season means he was a bad hire

i don't think eci will be bad next year but a tough schedule could make getting a winning record very tough next year...imo it will depend on benkurt and how good he is

All year the narrative has been that our starting QB was out and that hurt our season. Honestly...It was a close battle for the starting job from the start and we really do not know if Benkert would have done one bit better than Kemp. We also have the Minn. transfer ready next year that is a seasoned BIG 10 QB. We are loaded with talent at that position. Benkert is again going to have to prove he is the starter. It is going to be interesting to see what happens.

(12-14-2015 10:40 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 10:33 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  So if Coach Mo dips for a couple of years and then gets better, does that validate your view? Because that prediction is just about what happens for every new coach sans 1 or 2.

so your sayng you like my odds lol

but my comments was more in reference to the fact ive seen a ton of ecu fans saying he a has to win now ..anything less than a winning season means he was a bad hire

That's Compher's fault, and either way if they say that and truly mean it and stone this guy if we go 5-7 next year, F them.

If we can sustain a recruiting class that thus far looks solid - not great, but solid, we'll be on track to a good start. Then, if we stay healthy, we've got a pretty good team next year.

You guys are really underrating the idea of our entire receiving core returning, plus Deondre Farrior who we snagged away from Florida. DaRell Scott a transfer from Tennessee will be starting at running back. James Summers is a versatile athlete. And of course, Benkert/Nelson (whoever wins that battle, likely Benkert). Our offensive line isn't great, but it'll at least hopefully be at full health and has size and talent.

Defensively, there are holes, but our secondary will be a year older, Josh Hawkins is the only player we actually lose. D-Line has the size to compete at least. Obviously, like I said, holes at Linebacker, so we'll see.

We're a talented team. I will not predict wins, but this is not a team that's short on talent guys.

If Connors ever applies to be HC he will be hired on the spot. Dude is no nonsense.


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(12-14-2015 10:49 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 10:40 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 10:33 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  So if Coach Mo dips for a couple of years and then gets better, does that validate your view? Because that prediction is just about what happens for every new coach sans 1 or 2.

so your sayng you like my odds lol

but my comments was more in reference to the fact ive seen a ton of ecu fans saying he a has to win now ..anything less than a winning season means he was a bad hire

IMO, in all likelihood, ECU set the clock back on what was looking to be a good season next year.
This wasn't a case that ECU wasn't going to be in the hunt. Everyone knew Ruff was going to bounce back with Benkert and Nelson.

I don't believe that for a second. The rumblings from the inside of the program today tell us that this change was needed. We have talent. It is now going to be disciplined, conditioned and utilized properly...not hugged up and coddled.

(12-14-2015 10:55 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  If Connors ever applies to be HC he will be hired on the spot. Dude is no nonsense.


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He is the schit.

(12-14-2015 10:49 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 10:40 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 10:33 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  So if Coach Mo dips for a couple of years and then gets better, does that validate your view? Because that prediction is just about what happens for every new coach sans 1 or 2.

so your sayng you like my odds lol

but my comments was more in reference to the fact ive seen a ton of ecu fans saying he a has to win now ..anything less than a winning season means he was a bad hire

IMO, in all likelihood, ECU set the clock back on what was looking to be a good season next year.
This wasn't a case that ECU wasn't going to be in the hunt. Everyone knew Ruff was going to bounce back with Benkert and Nelson.

You take so much out of context with these broad generalizations that you make. You leave so much room for failure with your opinions because they're misinformed

I think if nothing else is apparent to our Conference foes today..... ECU fans are all about Football. Granted...That has been good and bad. We love this schit like breathing air. In fact...Coaching changes just throw 100 oxtane on the fire. I think Compher knew that.

(12-14-2015 08:53 PM)pirates4lyfe Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 08:21 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 08:16 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  He calls himself Mo.

Oh wow. I like him a little less now. Did Ruffin call himself by a nickname? I am guessing no.

Taggart light?

Called himself Ruff, don't really get the problem with shortening a name.

...salty UCF fan.

I like the guy's attitude but has a lot to prove as many coaches have won the introductory presser.

(12-14-2015 11:05 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 08:53 PM)pirates4lyfe Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 08:21 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 08:16 PM)ECBrad Wrote:  He calls himself Mo.

Oh wow. I like him a little less now. Did Ruffin call himself by a nickname? I am guessing no.

Taggart light?

Called himself Ruff, don't really get the problem with shortening a name.

...salty UCF fan.

I like the guy's attitude but has a lot to prove as many coaches have won the introductory presser.

No doubt. Talk is fcking cheap. I will give him props though for coming into a very contentious situation and hitting a home run. He went a long way today in healing wounds on the team and propping up a segment of the fan base that is melancholy about the departure of McNeil.

(12-14-2015 09:19 PM)pirates4lyfe Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 09:03 PM)pesik Wrote:  my honest opinion of monty:

i think this will go very similar to willie tags....
i think he will be an amazing recruiter. you can tell he knows what kids want to here
I honestly believe he will struggle early year 1 and 2, learn from his mistakes, change to whatever system is working nationally and have ecu competing again

I think he's inheriting a better roster than what Tags got from Skip. There are going to be growing pains though no first time head coach is perfect except for maybe Herman.

If Mo surrounds himself with good assistants he could look like a genius.

Herman was able to just that, but also inherited a good team at both sides of the ball.

Can we stop acting like ECU has been bad? The team is one year removed from an 8 win season and two from a 10 win season. We beat Va Tech THIS year, and played Florida and BYU to the wire. Lost a bunch of close games with our THIRD string QB. Montgomery is expected to come in and compete for a championship in his first year. To hear USF fans come out of nowhere to criticize anybody is laughable. You just finally got to a bowl game again, have absolutely zero history in football compared to the rest of the conference. Sit down and let the adults talk.

(12-14-2015 09:05 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Here's what the S&C coach (he was my coach back in 93) had to say. Pretty intense and he basically called out some of the issues he's seen (lack of leadership). This requires the Periscope app. Quick download and either your twitter account or ph#. Then come back to the link to launch. Absolutely well worth the listen. Gets better as it goes on.

Coach Jeff Connors

What years did you play at ECU? I was friends with some players and equip managers.

(12-14-2015 10:51 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 10:40 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 10:33 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  So if Coach Mo dips for a couple of years and then gets better, does that validate your view? Because that prediction is just about what happens for every new coach sans 1 or 2.

so your sayng you like my odds lol

but my comments was more in reference to the fact ive seen a ton of ecu fans saying he a has to win now ..anything less than a winning season means he was a bad hire

That's Compher's fault, and either way if they say that and truly mean it and stone this guy if we go 5-7 next year, F them.

If we can sustain a recruiting class that thus far looks solid - not great, but solid, we'll be on track to a good start. Then, if we stay healthy, we've got a pretty good team next year.

You guys are really underrating the idea of our entire receiving core returning, plus Deondre Farrior who we snagged away from Florida. DaRell Scott a transfer from Tennessee will be starting at running back. James Summers is a versatile athlete. And of course, Benkert/Nelson (whoever wins that battle, likely Benkert). Our offensive line isn't great, but it'll at least hopefully be at full health and has size and talent.

Defensively, there are holes, but our secondary will be a year older, Josh Hawkins is the only player we actually lose. D-Line has the size to compete at least. Obviously, like I said, holes at Linebacker, so we'll see.

We're a talented team. I will not predict wins, but this is not a team that's short on talent guys.

Josh Hawkins leaving is a good thing. Personal foul champion.

He is very Mike Tomlinesque, you can definitely see his influence on him. I personally think he will be highly successful, not because I am an ECU fan but he just strikes me as someone who will not fail at anything he does. With that said he better hope he doesn't have two Taggart type seasons or he and Compher will likely both be gone. Compher has made it clear we need to win, and by that he means next year. He is tied directly to Montgomery's success. No room for error here in Greenville with this one.

(12-15-2015 08:38 AM)isidnirb Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 09:05 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Here's what the S&C coach (he was my coach back in 93) had to say. Pretty intense and he basically called out some of the issues he's seen (lack of leadership). This requires the Periscope app. Quick download and either your twitter account or ph#. Then come back to the link to launch. Absolutely well worth the listen. Gets better as it goes on.

Coach Jeff Connors

What years did you play at ECU? I was friends with some players and equip managers.

According to his post one of those years was 1993 ....

(12-14-2015 11:28 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Can we stop acting like ECU has been bad? The team is one year removed from an 8 win season and two from a 10 win season. We beat Va Tech THIS year, and played Florida and BYU to the wire. Lost a bunch of close games with our THIRD string QB. Montgomery is expected to come in and compete for a championship in his first year. To hear USF fans come out of nowhere to criticize anybody is laughable. You just finally got to a bowl game again, have absolutely zero history in football compared to the rest of the conference. Sit down and let the adults talk.

As I posted in another thread, I fully expected ECU to be in the championship hunt next year. If ECU is not in the hunt next year, firing McNeil was a mistake.

(12-15-2015 11:32 AM)uhmump95 Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 08:38 AM)isidnirb Wrote:  

(12-14-2015 09:05 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Here's what the S&C coach (he was my coach back in 93) had to say. Pretty intense and he basically called out some of the issues he's seen (lack of leadership). This requires the Periscope app. Quick download and either your twitter account or ph#. Then come back to the link to launch. Absolutely well worth the listen. Gets better as it goes on.

Coach Jeff Connors

What years did you play at ECU? I was friends with some players and equip managers.

According to his post one of those years was 1993 ....

I didn't play football though I knew few players (Mark Washington, etc.). Coach Connors was my S&C coach for a class I took under him. He told me I was the only person ever to go through his summer program and gain weight. That's what eating in the middle of the night after drinking will do for you. He didn't like my lifestyle but admired the fact that I never missed getting up at 6am to lift weights and/or run my brains out for his program plus lifting in the afternoons on my own. I was at ECU from '87-'93. My father passed in '90, so I took some time off from school.

(12-15-2015 11:02 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  He is very Mike Tomlinesque, you can definitely see his influence on him. I personally think he will be highly successful, not because I am an ECU fan but he just strikes me as someone who will not fail at anything he does. With that said he better hope he doesn't have two Taggart type seasons or he and Compher will likely both be gone. Compher has made it clear we need to win, and by that he means next year. He is tied directly to Montgomery's success. No room for error here in Greenville with this one.

He will be fine as long as there is no losing season and the team plays with discipline..and we don't lose games from the victory formation. I cant imagine this team having back to back losing seasons with the skill players we will put on the field next year.

(12-15-2015 12:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 11:02 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  He is very Mike Tomlinesque, you can definitely see his influence on him. I personally think he will be highly successful, not because I am an ECU fan but he just strikes me as someone who will not fail at anything he does. With that said he better hope he doesn't have two Taggart type seasons or he and Compher will likely both be gone. Compher has made it clear we need to win, and by that he means next year. He is tied directly to Montgomery's success. No room for error here in Greenville with this one.

He will be fine as long as there is no losing season and the team plays with discipline..and we don't lose games from the victory formation. I cant imagine this team having back to back losing seasons with the skill players we will put on the field next year.

Unless you lose your best two QBs. Then you will very easily have a losing season.

(12-15-2015 01:50 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 12:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 11:02 AM)DownEastPirate Wrote:  He is very Mike Tomlinesque, you can definitely see his influence on him. I personally think he will be highly successful, not because I am an ECU fan but he just strikes me as someone who will not fail at anything he does. With that said he better hope he doesn't have two Taggart type seasons or he and Compher will likely both be gone. Compher has made it clear we need to win, and by that he means next year. He is tied directly to Montgomery's success. No room for error here in Greenville with this one.

He will be fine as long as there is no losing season and the team plays with discipline..and we don't lose games from the victory formation. I cant imagine this team having back to back losing seasons with the skill players we will put on the field next year.

Unless you lose your best two QBs. Then you will very easily have a losing season.

Not likely both will get injured and both are committed to coming back. Benkert is the only QB who could easily transfer because of his graduation date. Nelson is not going anywhere and our Redshirt Freshman from last year will be eligible plus our best QB commit coming in has confirmed his commitment since Coach Montgomery was hired.

Key next year will be the OL. We need to keep them healthy and hope a few new faces step up. We will be deep at WR and improved at RB with local Havelock kid coming back from Tennesse and eligible to play this year. TE will be interesting to see how that plays out since Montgomery likes that position in a lot of his Offensive play calling philosophy.

Defense we have a solid nucleus coming back but hopefully whoever we hire as DC can get more out of the Defense than we have seen in recent years, especially the secondary. Maybe Coach Montgomery having been a solid WR at Duke, short NFL career and a Receivers Coach for a talented Steelers team that is still in great shape can literally show our mostly awful Secondary how to cover receivers properly and not get burned on long 3rd downs.

Schedule next year is tough with Western Carolina, NCST, South Carolina and VT OOC and the always tough AAC.

Guessing about next year is crap shoot but I think 2-2 OOC is possible and anywhere from 4-6 wins in the AAC.