(12-12-2015 05:38 PM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 05:09 PM)MUther Wrote:  They either do the work and qualify or they don't and cost a scholarship. It's a big gamble to develop props. But they don't understand that. Very few pan out, well.

Actually, since 2005, there is no such thing as a Prop 48 in Division I anymore. You either qualify or you don't. Non-qualifiers are not eligible for scholarships and may not participate in any manner with the athletic team.

Prop/NQ- I understand the difference but just easier to say prop than say non-qualifier even though it's not technically correct. And when these guys don't work out it is often after they've been given a scholarship and then have team rule or legal violations, drop out, bad grades, aren't as good as expected, don't put the work in (prima donnas), etc. Though lately it seems as though a bunch have never seen the field.

And while they aren't given a scholarship during that first pay-your-own way year, they have to still be accounted for in the following class as a scholarship used if they make the cut. So if you don't find out till end of spring if they aren't going to qualify, you've got to scramble to fill the spot with a last minute, less than optimal player or be a recruit short on your allowed limit.

You aren't the guy I thought I'd have to spell out my carried-through meaning to. But I guess the opportunity to "set me straight" was too good not to go for it?

(12-12-2015 05:47 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Why would Brohm leave for an AAC school? just don't see it happening. Last Tech football coach declined the Houston job, and got the California job the next year. The coach before that left for Tennessee and Tech's basketball coach left for Florida. These coaches know the pecking order and an AAC job is not a step up.

Funny because Dykes was recently trying to get the job because he thought Herman was leaving. Now he realizes he screwed himself out of a 3 million dollar payday.

Scottie Montgomery to be named ECU coach. Duke coordinator.

(12-13-2015 01:06 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 12:20 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 11:36 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 01:21 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  Eh. ECU pays more and fills their 50,000 seat stadium every week. I'm sure Brohm has bigger plans in his eyes, but I'd understand if he left.

They dont fill their stadium every week. I was there for a game a couple years ago they announced 50k and there was lucky to have been 35-38 there. ECU really fudge their attendance numbers.

Brohm would have been a great hire, no doubt. My guess is that he is holding out for the Louisville gig or an even bigger job. Who can blame him? He's done a fantastic job at WKU.

Regarding ECU's attendance: no, we don't have 50K for every game. We'll have that once per year and between 40K and 45K for every other game. We used to count tickets sold but now we count those in attendance. I would not say that we "fudge our numbers", however.

And, yes, we will have one game per season (typically) with a crowd in the 30s. This season, we had that twice: the games against South Florida and Temple, in driving rain storms. The VPI game was near 50K at the start but most left the game early on after the rain really kicked into high gear.

On another note: how are my friends in CUSA looking for next season? Marshall and WKU should be good again and it's good to see USM getting back to their old ways. What about the rest of the conference?

Dont take me wrong...its still very impressive the way ECU puts people in the stands on a regular basis. We all know a lot of schools fudge their attendance. The Mac is probably the worst collection of schools I know of to fudge their attendance. I here App State really fudges their numbers as well.

You heard wrong about App, but I could understand why someone at Marshall would say that.

(12-13-2015 05:03 PM)Farmer Jack Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 05:47 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Why would Brohm leave for an AAC school? just don't see it happening. Last Tech football coach declined the Houston job, and got the California job the next year. The coach before that left for Tennessee and Tech's basketball coach left for Florida. These coaches know the pecking order and an AAC job is not a step up.

Funny because Dykes was recently trying to get the job because he thought Herman was leaving. Now he realizes he screwed himself out of a 3 million dollar payday.

Dykes turned down Houston to stay in Ruston and used it as leverage for an increase. No way Houston would have ponied up 3 million for Dykes

(12-13-2015 03:32 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Let's see what the new Cusa tv contract looks like. By every measure the AAC is a step up.

As posted earlier P5 schools got 60-70 million in revenue sharing

While CUSA- 16,340,000
AAC- 15,214,000

The separation is between P5 AND G5, among the G5 not so much

(12-13-2015 05:03 PM)Farmer Jack Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 05:47 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Why would Brohm leave for an AAC school? just don't see it happening. Last Tech football coach declined the Houston job, and got the California job the next year. The coach before that left for Tennessee and Tech's basketball coach left for Florida. These coaches know the pecking order and an AAC job is not a step up.

Funny because Dykes was recently trying to get the job because he thought Herman was leaving. Now he realizes he screwed himself out of a 3 million dollar payday.

This guy actually believes what he reads on the internet. I see why he is -26...lol

(12-13-2015 10:29 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:03 PM)Farmer Jack Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 05:47 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Why would Brohm leave for an AAC school? just don't see it happening. Last Tech football coach declined the Houston job, and got the California job the next year. The coach before that left for Tennessee and Tech's basketball coach left for Florida. These coaches know the pecking order and an AAC job is not a step up.

Funny because Dykes was recently trying to get the job because he thought Herman was leaving. Now he realizes he screwed himself out of a 3 million dollar payday.

Dykes turned down Houston to stay in Ruston and used it as leverage for an increase. No way Houston would have ponied up 3 million for Dykes

If Dykes had the same level of production Herman has had, then yeah we would have paid 3 mil for him.

(12-14-2015 08:56 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  This guy actually believes what he reads on the internet. I see why he is -26...lol

And Southern Miss is still in CUSA.

(12-13-2015 10:29 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:03 PM)Farmer Jack Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 05:47 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Why would Brohm leave for an AAC school? just don't see it happening. Last Tech football coach declined the Houston job, and got the California job the next year. The coach before that left for Tennessee and Tech's basketball coach left for Florida. These coaches know the pecking order and an AAC job is not a step up.

Funny because Dykes was recently trying to get the job because he thought Herman was leaving. Now he realizes he screwed himself out of a 3 million dollar payday.

Dykes turned down Houston to stay in Ruston and used it as leverage for an increase. No way Houston would have ponied up 3 million for Dykes

FWIW---my understanding was that Dykes agreed to come to Houston, but was not willing to sign a large buyout agreement. That basically crashed the deal. Still worked out well for him as he got a nice raise at LaTech. Basically, I think he would have been a 1 year rental for Houston and would have ended up exactly where is now. His eyes were on getting to a P5 as quickly as possible. Frankly, I have always said that was a huge mistake on Houston's part. I'd much rather rent a good coach for a year than hire a unqualified coach because "he will stay". That thinking always makes me reply with the same retort---If nobody else wants your coach---why should you?

(12-14-2015 12:59 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 10:29 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(12-13-2015 05:03 PM)Farmer Jack Wrote:  

(12-12-2015 05:47 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Why would Brohm leave for an AAC school? just don't see it happening. Last Tech football coach declined the Houston job, and got the California job the next year. The coach before that left for Tennessee and Tech's basketball coach left for Florida. These coaches know the pecking order and an AAC job is not a step up.

Funny because Dykes was recently trying to get the job because he thought Herman was leaving. Now he realizes he screwed himself out of a 3 million dollar payday.

Dykes turned down Houston to stay in Ruston and used it as leverage for an increase. No way Houston would have ponied up 3 million for Dykes

FWIW---my understanding was that Dykes agreed to come to Houston, but was not willing to sign a large buyout agreement. That basically crashed the deal. Still worked out well for him as he got a nice raise at LaTech. Basically, I think he would have been a 1 year rental for Houston and would have ended up exactly where is now. His eyes were on getting to a P5 as quickly as possible. Frankly, I have always said that was a huge mistake on Houston's part. I'd much rather rent a good coach for a year than hire a unqualified coach because "he will stay". That thinking always makes me reply with the same retort---If nobody else wants your coach---why should you?

I see what you are saying but I liked that Hotlz was hired at Tech after being fired at USF because he has proven he can win. Rent a coaches will fill the cupboard with Juco's then bail after a couple winning seasons. Glad to see Houston make a major commitment and keep Herman.

From what I've heard Dykes never had any intention of going to Houston, his agent just used it as leverage. The recent Tech coaches have left for much bigger head coaching jobs at P5 schools than the AAC. Dooley had losing record and still got the Tennessee job before Dykes.

If a CUSA coach is winning and getting looks from other schools they are not going to settle for another G5 like the AAC that's why Brohm declined ECU. The best the AAC and CUSA schools can do is go after a up and coming P5 Coordinator or proven coach that has been recently canned.