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(12-08-2015 11:43 PM)EMUAARON Wrote:  Was Murphy talking about Eagletotem? i'm reading their tweets from the last two hours as being defensive, but i could easily be mistaken.

That was my first guess. When he mentioned the Michigan game, it made me think of Al Willman's garbage article that followed up the win which said some things that Murphy hinted at.

He shouldn't expect all media coverage to be positive...that's unreasonable. But I love that he defends his players and why the schedule is the way it is. Good for Coach Murphy.
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It also seems to be this de myths the fact that Murphy has anything to do with scheduling the teams. Quite frankly if I were him I'd be more angry with the lack of student support and the local community (see Rob Murphy) foundation) than the media. But fans do have a right not to be happy with the home schedule or the start times and vote with their $$$ and voice their opinion. I realize that some start times are in measure the school voting to take TV money over fan convenience that's the way college sports are today. Last year I went to more home hoops games than I ever had and this year I'll be lucky if I go to one. I think we all not happy with the lack of media coverage for EMU sports.
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Murphy concluded by defending his players and their work ethic.

“These guys come in here every single day and work their butts off," Murphy said. "My staff and I continue to work our butts off to get the program in the right direction; and all we read is who we’re playing, and what’s negative.”

Ditto football.
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apparently Murphy doesn't feel EMU isn't high level using the term clown car is unfortunate ...his own player Glenn Bryant called down EMU on attendance... well Syracuse has had it own negative publicity by the media even on a Hall of Fame coach.

I feel sorry for what ever he was slamming on.

And while I understand about getting better its not a consistently good team yet...I wait and see if that develops by conference play.
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I just listened to the podcast. Amen! Amen! Amen!

I do want to say, and not sound self-serving, I have been pointing out the issues with schedules, buy games, lack of money, etc. etc. for a very long time. We have money problems in the men's basketball program.

You can dismiss what I had to say and my legendary disputes with Super over scheduling, but you got it from the horse's mouth last night.

Blaming Murphy is quite simply a case of 'blaming the victim.'

Murphy wasn't looking for sympathy, but at least some compassion and understanding would be nice.

I did have and do have information on these issues. What Coach said about the scheduling problem is not a divine revelation. It has been posted here by me many times, although not with his clarity. Amazingly, Super has posted about our money problems in basketball. So it wasn't a 'single source' for the statement that lack of funds is behind our scheduling problems. NIU also has a similar problem (and yes, their home game attendance is also very problematic.)
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Also, for the life of my why do EMU fans get so negative? We have a lot of posters here. Some manage to remain upbeat even when we've struggled (e.g., during conference seasons); others go totally negative.

Some of the most upbeat, loyal posters are also the most knowledgeable. They are not blindly cheering. They analyze but remain positive.

If someone can't remain positive, hopeful about our teams, why turn sports, a form of entertainment, into human purgatory?
Go read a book with a happy ending. A good movie or a concert. A sitcom.

There is no local EMU media to talk with players and coaches and do feature articles. Chad is doing a herculean job of providing positive media coverage for the basketball teams.
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(12-09-2015 12:29 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(12-08-2015 11:43 PM)EMUAARON Wrote:  Was Murphy talking about Eagletotem? i'm reading their tweets from the last two hours as being defensive, but i could easily be mistaken.

That was my first guess. When he mentioned the Michigan game, it made me think of Al Willman's garbage article that followed up the win which said some things that Murphy hinted at.

He shouldn't expect all media coverage to be positive...that's unreasonable. But I love that he defends his players and why the schedule is the way it is. Good for Coach Murphy.

Fortunately we have an ace in the making Andrew Mascharka. He has excellent skills, very hard working, does good photography, etc.

Andrew not only does he have a really good temperament, but has a good sense of how to function within the world of sports. He talks with EMU people, attends those athletic BOR meetings, etc.

Andrew also has a Twitter account which is easy to follow. He breaks stories as he is (obviously) local and has his ear to the ground for news. He is one person, of many, I turn to for information. He is trying to follow up with EMU on the bubble issue. I recommend following his Twitter account.

I love people who write sports like Lynn Henning, Tigers' writer for the Detroit News. Long on knowledge, information, judgment, etc. and no bombast; not controversial. Very professional writer. One of the best.

I don't know Al Willman but I've got the impression that he has been at the heart of some controversy over the years while he was at the Echo.

I don't read his stuff in the media and I don't read the EagleTotem.

If I need info on hoops, I can find it out myself and I know who I know and their credibility. I trust my own instincts.

E.g., Two years running I've had the 'early scoop' on Bond and Thompson from multiple sources. The latest was Thompson. Someone communicated to me that he talked with a member of the team and our player called Thompson "A beast". I started posting very positively on Thompson. Of course, last year I got on the Timmy Bond bandwagon during Summer, when word was leaking that he has God-given abilities and then Murphy wrote some very positive comments about Bond for Blue Ribbon (basketball) Yearbook (which EagleSam and I read).
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(12-09-2015 12:12 AM)masttg Wrote:  Two things: First, I like when coaches go off script and actually say what they feel. It is always entertaining and almost always enlightening. Second, I like how he pointed out how when Mike from MLive actually gave EMU a real beat reporter for a year, got himself a job covering one of the biggest college football schools in America. It has been a real disappointment that nobody has picked up the slack (I am looking at you Justin Hicks).

Good points.

It is sad when EMU is dependent on the hard work and skill of ONE local paid beat writer (who was covering high school sports and a ton more for his paper).

And, of course, you can't count on ONE person to carry the ball. People do move on.

Now MLive simply posts the EMU media relations articles as their coverage.
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I think there are times we all lose perspective in sports that the players on these teams are actual human beings and how we so easily dehumanize them. When my wife and I attended the Miami football game in November, I'll admit that I was so disgusted about the way the football team that my mind went extremely negative saying things about "why am I wasting my time with this, maybe we should move down, etc.." Then I log onto this message board and I'll admit that I was completely misinformed about the fact that we had so many injuries on the offensive line that the result that happened on the field had a more tangible reason then what I had perceived as just as a poor effort on the field. Bottom line, I was wrong to go so negative. It's just it is so easy to get negative when you're consistently losing but the negativity isn't helping the problem, it's really just making it worse.

It is funny because after EMU beat Michigan last year, instead of the praise going to EMU for winning, it went about how Michigan didn't play well. I think as fans that is quite frustrating as well. It's not about what EMU did right, it's about what the other team didn't do right for EMU to lose. Hell, last year Buffalo fired their football coach after losing to EMU. Indirectly that sent a similar message as well. I've always felt life is about balance and sports is about balance, you have to take the good with the bad.

I'm looking forward to seeing EMU play Louisville this Saturday just for the experience of going to a game in my newly adopted hometown. I hope we put our a good, respectable effort and who knows maybe the Eagles can pull out a huge upset.
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(12-09-2015 04:33 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I just listened to the podcast. Amen! Amen! Amen!

I do want to say, and not sound self-serving, I have been pointing out the issues with schedules, buy games, lack of money, etc. etc. for a very long time. We have money problems in the men's basketball program.

You can dismiss what I had to say and my legendary disputes with Super over scheduling, but you got it from the horse's mouth last night.

Blaming Murphy is quite simply a case of 'blaming the victim.'

Murphy wasn't looking for sympathy, but at least some compassion and understanding would be nice.

I did have and do have information on these issues. What Coach said about the scheduling problem is not a divine revelation. It has been posted here by me many times, although not with his clarity. Amazingly, Super has posted about our money problems in basketball. So it wasn't a 'single source' for the statement that lack of funds is behind our scheduling problems. NIU also has a similar problem (and yes, their home game attendance is also very problematic.)

I guess we should blame the BOR or the AD instead? Just a question.

And to be fair about the negative media coverage (vs the non-existent kind) Murphy flirtation with Orlando and the James Still incident didn't exactly endear him to some. In short sometimes in the past Murphy created his own medial problems. I agree he's gotten better.

PS In terms of all time rants though Murphy's comes in second to English's.
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(12-09-2015 07:38 AM)emu79 Wrote:  
(12-09-2015 04:33 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I just listened to the podcast. Amen! Amen! Amen!

I do want to say, and not sound self-serving, I have been pointing out the issues with schedules, buy games, lack of money, etc. etc. for a very long time. We have money problems in the men's basketball program.

You can dismiss what I had to say and my legendary disputes with Super over scheduling, but you got it from the horse's mouth last night.

Blaming Murphy is quite simply a case of 'blaming the victim.'

Murphy wasn't looking for sympathy, but at least some compassion and understanding would be nice.

I did have and do have information on these issues. What Coach said about the scheduling problem is not a divine revelation. It has been posted here by me many times, although not with his clarity. Amazingly, Super has posted about our money problems in basketball. So it wasn't a 'single source' for the statement that lack of funds is behind our scheduling problems. NIU also has a similar problem (and yes, their home game attendance is also very problematic.)

I guess we should blame the BOR or the AD instead? Just a question. ...

How can we blame the BOR or AD for problems which have existed since the 90s?

EMU has some long term, systematic issues in athletics which have yet to be solved.

What I find most disappointing is that revenue is UP because of money from (through) the MAC for CFP and ESPN rights, the revenue from road football games like LSU and Missouri continue to go through the roof, even donor money is good, etc.

Yet, basketball is living on financial crumbs...
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Eagle Totem sucks, and their constant negativity is exhausting and should be avoided. On the other hand, he should really stop reading about what other people think, and get some thicker skin. Focus on yourself and your team and wins games. Everything else will follow.
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(12-08-2015 11:25 PM)rayEMU Wrote:  Wow, Murphy sounds pissed. I feel like he was talking about this forum.
Was super duper at the presser?
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(12-09-2015 10:44 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  Eagle Totem sucks, and their constant negativity is exhausting and should be avoided. On the other hand, he should really stop reading about what other people think, and get some thicker skin. Focus on yourself and your team and wins games. Everything else will follow.
I find their honesty refreshing. If the football team hasn't produced a winning record in 20 years (the winning record in 1996 was a sterling 6-5, mind you) you should absolutely be lambasted with criticism, in fact you should be lucky to still have a program. Murphy, on the other hand, has produced a quality product and should be praised for how good this year's and next year's team could/should be. Credit where credit is due.
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(12-08-2015 11:24 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(12-08-2015 11:10 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Here's the 6:30 soundbite.

https://soundcloud.com/andrewmascharka/e...um=twitter

Thanks coach Murphy for clarifying why we schedule these lower level schools due to affordability.

I will try to be more positive overall about the program and only offer constructive criticism :-)

Lets note here that EMU paid out out over 125,000 host a tournament last year. I did an interview for the echo last night about attendance and how it has fallen. I pointed out that as far as warm bodies in the seats it really started with Barnes. They asked about the official numbers going back to Bowen days i said when we moved to the Convo they started using tickets sold and not bodies in the seats when those numbers took a real fall was when they started counting people attending games. But i also pointed the fact that we really haven't had any NBA players in the MAC for 10 to 15. No big named going in to the NBA. It's not an EMU problem it's a MAC problem and the MAC needs to address it.07-coffee3
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(12-09-2015 12:16 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  
(12-08-2015 11:24 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(12-08-2015 11:10 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Here's the 6:30 soundbite.

https://soundcloud.com/andrewmascharka/e...um=twitter

Thanks coach Murphy for clarifying why we schedule these lower level schools due to affordability.

I will try to be more positive overall about the program and only offer constructive criticism :-)

Lets note here that EMU paid out out over 125,000 host a tournament last year. I did an interview for the echo last night about attendance and how it has fallen. I pointed out that as far as warm bodies in the seats it really started with Barnes. They asked about the official numbers going back to Bowen days i said when we moved to the Convo they started using tickets sold and not bodies in the seats when those numbers took a real fall was when they started counting people attending games. But i also pointed the fact that we really haven't had any NBA players in the MAC for 10 to 15. No big named going in to the NBA. It's not an EMU problem it's a MAC problem and the MAC needs to address it.07-coffee3

Good points.

Yes, it started with Barnes, the Convo, and eventually all the free (or almost free) games on the Internet.

I attended a game last year at Maryland (MSU game). The atmosphere was electric. That game was worth attending in person. Some basketball games, however, have little atmosphere and some simply watch at home.

We try to host a 3-game tourney and bleed red ink like crazy.

The best EMU can do with sports scheduling is try to be 'financially prudent' whatever that means. It can mean a FCS home game in FB. Multiple non-D-I games in hoops.

I suspect we don't do well on home and homes. How much revenue do we get from our home game? How much expenses do we have for the road game? One is greater than the other and I can guess which one is greater.
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(12-08-2015 11:02 PM)rayEMU Wrote:  
(12-08-2015 10:38 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Also, in the post-game presser, Murphy went on a 7-minute rant about media coverage. He took umbrage from what he called a lack of "professionalism" in some writers covering the team. Can't say he's completely wrong...

There will be audio posted somewhere tonight.

Is somebody covering the team? Who? I 'd love to read anything on the team, regardless of how unprofessional.

The Echo and Totem are young non professional writers and bloggers, they don't make a living from what they're doing.
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And blame the students is outrageous they are forking the money for a $30 million arena. Money that is being paid out of student loans so they are paying the cost twice. No coach nor athlete has any right to blame the students for anything! This is a long term and there is no quick nor easy fix. This a MAC problem and the MAC needs to help fix it.
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(12-09-2015 02:02 PM)emu79 Wrote:  
(12-08-2015 11:02 PM)rayEMU Wrote:  
(12-08-2015 10:38 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Also, in the post-game presser, Murphy went on a 7-minute rant about media coverage. He took umbrage from what he called a lack of "professionalism" in some writers covering the team. Can't say he's completely wrong...

There will be audio posted somewhere tonight.

Is somebody covering the team? Who? I 'd love to read anything on the team, regardless of how unprofessional.

The Echo and Totem are young non professional writers and bloggers, they don't make a living from what they're doing.

For Echo, Yes, they are students. As for Totem I wouldn't call Carter or Ken 'young'.
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