https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/earl...holgorsen/

(12-08-2015 03:09 PM)TerryD Wrote:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/earl...holgorsen/

"Do or do not." "There is no decide." Deciding means they leave themselves open to unhappy factions and second guessing all of next season which is a lousy scenario for a new head coach, or an old one that saved his job. E.G. Les Miles.

After most of the coaches have moved? Okay then.

(12-08-2015 03:25 PM)bronconick Wrote:  After most of the coaches have moved? Okay then.

Sometimes diarrhea can occur at the most unexpected time. A wicked fart can linger in a hot shower for a very long time.

Yeah, their timing would be terrible if they were to cut him lose now AFTER all the top names have already taken other jobs...

Why would they fire him anyways? They aren't a natty title competing program.

(12-08-2015 04:09 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Why would they fire him anyways? They aren't a natty title competing program.

So why does Nebraska fire their coaches?

(12-08-2015 03:58 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Yeah, their timing would be terrible if they were to cut him lose now AFTER all the top names have already taken other jobs...

Rich Rod is still available.

(12-08-2015 04:22 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 03:58 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Yeah, their timing would be terrible if they were to cut him lose now AFTER all the top names have already taken other jobs...

Rich Rod is still available.

+1

(12-08-2015 04:25 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:22 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 03:58 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Yeah, their timing would be terrible if they were to cut him lose now AFTER all the top names have already taken other jobs...

Rich Rod is still available.

+1

Couch "Futures" in WV are skyrocketing.

Just another old big east school getting its ass kicked in the real world of college football. Coaching changes wont solve their problem

(12-08-2015 03:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 03:09 PM)TerryD Wrote:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/earl...holgorsen/

"Do or do not." "There is no decide." Deciding means they leave themselves open to unhappy factions and second guessing all of next season which is a lousy scenario for a new head coach, or an old one that saved his job. E.G. Les Miles.

I agree with this, but I would think most coaches who hover around 7 wins per season create factions. It would be much easier to can Dana if he couldn't get over 6, just simply due to the fact that we'd have a unified fan base. WVU very quietly went on a 4 game win streak, and this conversation would not be happening had we not lost to Kansas State on Saturday.


The mentions of DickRod are interesting. He still has major allies in the state, and those major allies have major money. He would also likely create factions at first, but I think winning cures all. Unfortunately, it also works the other way. DickRod coming back and losing would not be good.


In regards to Dana, his biggest faults in my opinion are that he has not done a good job of developing a quarterback (which is just unthinkable) and that we lose at least one (usually more) games per year with better talent than our opponent. WVU (and Dana) has shown that it can build a talented football team in our new conference. The issue is coaching.


My gut says that we should keep Dana, but there are plenty of people who are glad I'm not in charge of the decision.

(12-08-2015 05:32 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:25 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:22 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 03:58 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Yeah, their timing would be terrible if they were to cut him lose now AFTER all the top names have already taken other jobs...

Rich Rod is still available.

+1

Couch "Futures" in WV are skyrocketing.

If I were a WV fan I'd want him out. He's had five long years to make something happen and he just hasn't been able to.

If you are satisfied going 7-5 each year, finishing 5th in the conference and playing in the Cactus Bowl or whatever, then he's obviously your man. If not, then not.

(12-08-2015 08:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  If I were a WV fan I'd want him out. He's had five long years to make something happen and he just hasn't been able to.

If you are satisfied going 7-5 each year, finishing 5th in the conference and playing in the Cactus Bowl or whatever, then he's obviously your man. If not, then not.

That's what I think too. But the WVU fans I know and talk to seem to have a defeatist attitude when it comes to Holgorsen and think they can't do any better.

(12-08-2015 06:32 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Just another old big east school getting its ass kicked in the real world of college football. Coaching changes wont solve their problem

Guessing You are also about to find out !

Put any coach in that program when the closest road game is over 850 miles away, and the program no longer sees games in Florida, where it learned to recruit over the years, and they will fail.

Dana's decent. The circumstances his school placed him and all of their athletics in are the problems.

Yeah, WVU's issues aren't entirely on the coach. They're hamstrung thanks to their conference.

(12-08-2015 06:32 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Just another old big east school getting its ass kicked in the real world of college football. Coaching changes wont solve their problem

May I remind you that Memphis is playing in a slightly modified version of CUSA 1.0, CUSA 1.1 per say. That CUSA had some very good teams as does the current AAC. The old Big East had some very good teams that were able to compete with anyone. Hard for them to be consistent when the media narrative was that the league was an endangered species and when the resource gap was growing miles wide. Now all the teams that ended up in other power conferences are taking their lumps in adjusting and growing into their new environs.

Blaming the conference affiliation is too easy and absolves Holgorsen of poor decisions. WVU blew the game against K State on Saturday due to poor coaching, not because they had to travel a thousand miles. Should've beaten Oklahoma State at home too. He also can't recruit a QB.