http://www.espn929.com/pages/22249014.php?

"The University of Memphis obviously hopes to be on the conference’s short list if it elects to go to 12. The Tigers are in the midst of the football program’s most successful two seasons in program history, new facilities for both primary sports are on the way, and adding Memphis would give the Big 12 a presence in fertile recruiting terrain."

Bad timing for bad football....

(12-07-2015 10:27 AM)WIowl Wrote:  http://www.espn929.com/pages/22249014.php?

"The University of Memphis obviously hopes to be on the conference’s short list if it elects to go to 12. The Tigers are in the midst of the football program’s most successful two seasons in program history, new facilities for both primary sports are on the way, and adding Memphis would give the Big 12 a presence in fertile recruiting terrain."

Bad timing for bad football....

But good timing to show we are serious about football. If we couple completing our new facilities with making an announcement about increasing funding and hiring a new coach, we would show to a Big 12 looking to expand that we are not content with our situation and are willing to pull our own weight.

(12-07-2015 10:50 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 10:27 AM)WIowl Wrote:  http://www.espn929.com/pages/22249014.php?

"The University of Memphis obviously hopes to be on the conference’s short list if it elects to go to 12. The Tigers are in the midst of the football program’s most successful two seasons in program history, new facilities for both primary sports are on the way, and adding Memphis would give the Big 12 a presence in fertile recruiting terrain."

Bad timing for bad football....

But good timing to show we are serious about football. If we couple completing our new facilities with making an announcement about increasing funding and hiring a new coach, we would show to a Big 12 looking to expand that we are not content with our situation and are willing to pull our own weight.

The AD isn't going to make a change.

No statement will be made, conferences will view it at as Same Old Rice, and we'll be lucky to secure UH's replacement in the AAC if they leave.

(12-07-2015 10:50 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 10:27 AM)WIowl Wrote:  http://www.espn929.com/pages/22249014.php?

"The University of Memphis obviously hopes to be on the conference’s short list if it elects to go to 12. The Tigers are in the midst of the football program’s most successful two seasons in program history, new facilities for both primary sports are on the way, and adding Memphis would give the Big 12 a presence in fertile recruiting terrain."

Bad timing for bad football....

But good timing to show we are serious about football. If we couple completing our new facilities with making an announcement about increasing funding and hiring a new coach, we would show to a Big 12 looking to expand that we are not content with our situation and are willing to pull our own weight.

If the Big 12 wants a Houston team in the near term they'll take UH. There's nothing Rice will do in the short term that can hold a candle to UH.

(12-07-2015 10:58 AM)WIowl Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 10:50 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 10:27 AM)WIowl Wrote:  http://www.espn929.com/pages/22249014.php?

"The University of Memphis obviously hopes to be on the conference’s short list if it elects to go to 12. The Tigers are in the midst of the football program’s most successful two seasons in program history, new facilities for both primary sports are on the way, and adding Memphis would give the Big 12 a presence in fertile recruiting terrain."

Bad timing for bad football....

But good timing to show we are serious about football. If we couple completing our new facilities with making an announcement about increasing funding and hiring a new coach, we would show to a Big 12 looking to expand that we are not content with our situation and are willing to pull our own weight.

The AD isn't going to make a change.

No statement will be made, conferences will view it at as Same Old Rice, and we'll be lucky to secure UH's replacement in the AAC if they leave.

I still haven't given up hope. Until we get some definitive from JK one way or the other, I am going to assume he is still considering his alternatives and I have not resigned our football team to the fate of retaining DB.

While UH looks better from a competition standpoint, bringing them in will potentially hurt recruiting at the other schools. We would be recruiting in a niche market that would likely not dramatically affect the other schools' abilities to pull in the recruits they want. I could see that being a significant hurdle for them, but that has no basis in anything other than my own whacky thoughts.

(12-07-2015 11:00 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 10:50 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 10:27 AM)WIowl Wrote:  http://www.espn929.com/pages/22249014.php?

"The University of Memphis obviously hopes to be on the conference’s short list if it elects to go to 12. The Tigers are in the midst of the football program’s most successful two seasons in program history, new facilities for both primary sports are on the way, and adding Memphis would give the Big 12 a presence in fertile recruiting terrain."

Bad timing for bad football....

But good timing to show we are serious about football. If we couple completing our new facilities with making an announcement about increasing funding and hiring a new coach, we would show to a Big 12 looking to expand that we are not content with our situation and are willing to pull our own weight.

If the Big 12 wants a Houston team in the near term they'll take UH. There's nothing Rice will do in the short term that can hold a candle to UH.

Houston has replaced Memphis. For whatever reason, UT and TCU (only schools I have Trustee friends) would not support Memphis. OU and OSU really wanted Memphis

(12-07-2015 10:50 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 10:27 AM)WIowl Wrote:  http://www.espn929.com/pages/22249014.php?

"The University of Memphis obviously hopes to be on the conference’s short list if it elects to go to 12. The Tigers are in the midst of the football program’s most successful two seasons in program history, new facilities for both primary sports are on the way, and adding Memphis would give the Big 12 a presence in fertile recruiting terrain."

Bad timing for bad football....

But good timing to show we are serious about football. If we couple completing our new facilities with making an announcement about increasing funding and hiring a new coach, we would show to a Big 12 looking to expand that we are not content with our situation and are willing to pull our own weight.

The Chinese will be mining the Moon for cheese before the Big 12 invites Rice.

(12-07-2015 11:19 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Houston has replaced Memphis. For whatever reason, UT and TCU (only schools I have Trustee friends) would not support Memphis. OU and OSU really wanted Memphis

That surprises me. I would have thought BYU, Memphis, Cincinnati, and even Temple would be ahead of UH. Why would UT/TCU/Tech/Baylor want to add another P5 in Texas? BYU is BYU and the others add basketball and fill in the geographic gap with WVU...

While Houston leaving would be Rice's best (only?) chance to get in the AAC, I wonder if there would be resistance to another small private - you'd have the west with Tulsa, SMU, Tulane, and Rice.

5-7 this year killed any chance we would have if it happens this year. We are DOA for any move until we get our stuff fixed. Nobody wants the program that we have today. Why are people deluded into believing differently.

Did anyone suggest in this thread that Rice was a possibility? I don't think any of us are deluded...

(12-07-2015 12:23 PM)mrbig Wrote:  Did anyone suggest in this thread that Rice was a possibility?

Yes.

(12-07-2015 12:17 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  5-7 this year killed any chance we would have if it happens this year. We are DOA for any move until we get our stuff fixed. Nobody wants the program that we have today. Why are people deluded into believing differently.

Then why isn't the AD making a change? Again, it leads me to believe that all of his talk is just talk. DOA before he arrived. Still DOA.

After Southern Miss or Marshall heads to the AAC, Rice will be welcoming in more SunBelt schools.

(12-07-2015 11:19 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 11:00 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 10:50 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 10:27 AM)WIowl Wrote:  http://www.espn929.com/pages/22249014.php?

"The University of Memphis obviously hopes to be on the conference’s short list if it elects to go to 12. The Tigers are in the midst of the football program’s most successful two seasons in program history, new facilities for both primary sports are on the way, and adding Memphis would give the Big 12 a presence in fertile recruiting terrain."

Bad timing for bad football....

But good timing to show we are serious about football. If we couple completing our new facilities with making an announcement about increasing funding and hiring a new coach, we would show to a Big 12 looking to expand that we are not content with our situation and are willing to pull our own weight.

If the Big 12 wants a Houston team in the near term they'll take UH. There's nothing Rice will do in the short term that can hold a candle to UH.

Houston has replaced Memphis. For whatever reason, UT and TCU (only schools I have Trustee friends) would not support Memphis. OU and OSU really wanted Memphis

Where does Rice sit on the AAC wish list should UH bolt?

I can tell you that SMU, Tulsa and Tulane will not vote for Marshall.

(12-07-2015 12:29 PM)WIowl Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 11:19 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 11:00 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 10:50 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 10:27 AM)WIowl Wrote:  http://www.espn929.com/pages/22249014.php?

"The University of Memphis obviously hopes to be on the conference’s short list if it elects to go to 12. The Tigers are in the midst of the football program’s most successful two seasons in program history, new facilities for both primary sports are on the way, and adding Memphis would give the Big 12 a presence in fertile recruiting terrain."

Bad timing for bad football....

But good timing to show we are serious about football. If we couple completing our new facilities with making an announcement about increasing funding and hiring a new coach, we would show to a Big 12 looking to expand that we are not content with our situation and are willing to pull our own weight.

If the Big 12 wants a Houston team in the near term they'll take UH. There's nothing Rice will do in the short term that can hold a candle to UH.

Houston has replaced Memphis. For whatever reason, UT and TCU (only schools I have Trustee friends) would not support Memphis. OU and OSU really wanted Memphis

Where does Rice sit on the AAC wish list should UH bolt?

Depends on how badly they want to be in Houston. They took Tulane to get into New Orleans, so if they learned nothing from that and considering Houston is a much bigger market, then maybe Rice might be considered.

Would an AAC without Houston and Memphis really be worth moving to? It would be a big loss to that conference if it lost those two, or any combination of Houston, Memphis, Cincy, and UCF.

(12-07-2015 12:17 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  5-7 this year killed any chance we would have if it happens this year. We are DOA for any move until we get our stuff fixed. Nobody wants the program that we have today. Why are people deluded into believing differently.

I keep looking at Tulane as an example, but will admit that the NOLA market was a significant contributor to their selection, while we do not really add anything for Houston.

(12-07-2015 12:33 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Would an AAC without Houston and Memphis really be worth moving to? It would be a big loss to that conference if it lost those two, or any combination of Houston, Memphis, Cincy, and UCF.

Yes! There is a pecking order and AAC is way ahead. The Big12 would only be poaching 2 at most (and likely 1 if BYU moves to the Big12).

We also need to get back with SMU, Tulane; Rice needs to get back with more like-minded academic schools.

(12-07-2015 12:33 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Would an AAC without Houston and Memphis really be worth moving to? It would be a big loss to that conference if it lost those two, or any combination of Houston, Memphis, Cincy, and UCF.

Yes. Even if they lose four. Because if we don't get invited or turn down an invite, they'll raid other CUSA teams. So even if it's not better than CUSA 3.0 (though I think it still would be) CUSA 4.0 will definitely be worse.

Now if realignment madness starts, is it possible the MWC expands and ends up being a better place? Maybe. But if we get an invite to either of those conferences we have to take it.

(12-07-2015 12:30 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I can tell you that SMU, Tulsa and Tulane will not vote for Marshall.

But will they support Rice over Southern Miss? Tulane was HUGE in getting Rice, SMU, and Tulsa into the previous version of CUSA.