Well, Footballscoop claims today that Rich Rod did get an offer from South Carolina and he turned them down. Anyways......

It's a wasteland of a job just like Iowa State. At a place like Iowa State you can raise the program to a good season or two and then it is ready to jump ship for a bigger job before it comes crashing down again. At a place like Iowa State you have one of the nationes bluebloods directionly to the left (with a map in front of you) and Iowa in-state and Chicago to the right where many big time programs in the Midwest recruit. A kid from deep south with many options doesn't need to go to Iowa State.

In the case of South Carolina, you have all of these other more powerful programs in the area that strain South Carolina and that is something South Carolina will never be able to overcome.

South Carolina will be competitive again, just not under Muschamp. He's not a head coach. He doesn't have the skill sets of a head coach. He is a very good Defensive Coordinator.

I simply don't buy the doom and gloom from the must put down the SEC crowd. South Carolina will have a lot more money to be competitive with Clemson and North Carolina. Tennessee will be a problem for them though. Georgia is a wait and see.

Now for the truth about South Carolina's coaching hire fiasco. When Spurrier retired early it looked like a big carousel year was about to get cranked up. South Carolina was given a leg up on a hiring by having the opportunity to start a search in earnest mid season. Instead by the time the end of the season rolled around there wasn't a single P5 coach that moved to another P5 school outside of Richt to Miami. Everyone else was a G5 or assistant hire. There was no carousel, only musical chairs with South Carolina still looking around the room when the music stopped.

We'll know in a few months why no major head coaches left their schools for another major job. I'd guess it's because there is something in the wind that made them all nervous. What that could be is difficult to say at this time. The global economic picture isn't very good and that could impact the U.S. markets making grants and other funding tight and therefore putting pressure on athletics. There could be movement afoot if the disparity in income looks to be long term. Or the recent trend in attendance downward along with cord cutting may have everyone waiting to see the lay of the land before they commit, and that goes for coaches who have good contracts with life left on them and A.D.'s who don't want to lay too much out given the variables.

So I'm sure that Tanner thought there would be a much larger pool to select from and that therefore he could be choosy. It didn't work out that way. I also have reason to believe that Rodriguez had strong personal reasons to stay put. So Muschamp it is.

South Carolina isn't that bad of a program. They've won the SEC East. They finished in the top 10 in 2011,12, and 13.

Its just a problem with the perception that USC is where coaches finish their careers.

It takes a special coach to do well at SC. Spurrier is a special coach. Muschamp is not.

(12-07-2015 05:34 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  It takes a special coach to do well at SC. Spurrier is a special coach. Muschamp is not.

"All Delta Tau Chi pledges are special in their own way." Will's Delta Tau Chi name is "Sunshine"!

Hot young coaches are not flocking to the SEC, all of that happening in the future (which is now present) was all made up myths. Coaches want to coach at schools where they can win and compete for a national title. Having every team in a division being a power eats alive the division over time and coaches eventually get fired or leave on their own.

UGA fired Richt because he isn't Saban. LSU wanted to fire Les Miles because he isn't Saban. You know Auburn fire chatter will pick up with another bad season. You know A&M chatter will pick up to fire Sumlin without another divisional title.

There is no reason to go to a place with unrealistic expectations for roughly the same pay when you can go somewhere else and provide a better quality of life for your family and not have so many nutty people in the fanbase calling for you to be fired everytime you lose a game, even if it is by one point.

South Carolina got turned by the next generation greats and established P/G5 coaches and settled for a guy that was already fired from a school within the conference. SEC hiring SEC.

What are these schools in the SEC going to do when Saban is gone (likely within two years) and his staff has left for other jobs and the new Bama staff isn't as good? By the time that happens, the young studs will be at other P5 schools already and it is hard to poach a P5 coach that is winning.

Even if Bama hired Dabo he isn't no Saban.

(12-07-2015 05:59 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Hot young coaches are not flocking to the SEC, all of that happening in the future (which is now present) was all made up myths. Coaches want to coach at schools where they can win and compete for a national title. Having every team in a division being a power eats alive the division over time and coaches eventually get fired or leave on their own.

UGA fired Richt because he isn't Saban. LSU wanted to fire Les Miles because he isn't Saban. You know Auburn fire chatter will pick up with another bad season. You know A&M chatter will pick up to fire Sumlin without another divisional title.

There is no reason to go to a place with unrealistic expectations for roughly the same pay when you can go somewhere else and provide a better quality of life for your family and not have so many nutty people in the fanbase calling for you to be fired everytime you lose a game, even if it is by one point.

South Carolina got turned by the next generation greats and established P/G5 coaches and settled for a guy that was already fired from a school within the conference. SEC hiring SEC.

What are these schools in the SEC going to do when Saban is gone (likely within two years) and his staff has left for other jobs and the new Bama staff isn't as good? By the time that happens, the young studs will be at other P5 schools already and it is hard to poach a P5 coach that is winning.

Even if Bama hired Dabo he isn't no Saban.

Hooey!

(12-07-2015 05:59 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Hot young coaches are not flocking to the SEC, all of that happening in the future (which is now present) was all made up myths. Coaches want to coach at schools where they can win and compete for a national title. Having every team in a division being a power eats alive the division over time and coaches eventually get fired or leave on their own.

UGA fired Richt because he isn't Saban. LSU wanted to fire Les Miles because he isn't Saban. You know Auburn fire chatter will pick up with another bad season. You know A&M chatter will pick up to fire Sumlin without another divisional title.

There is no reason to go to a place with unrealistic expectations for roughly the same pay when you can go somewhere else and provide a better quality of life for your family and not have so many nutty people in the fanbase calling for you to be fired everytime you lose a game, even if it is by one point.

South Carolina got turned by the next generation greats and established P/G5 coaches and settled for a guy that was already fired from a school within the conference. SEC hiring SEC.

What are these schools in the SEC going to do when Saban is gone (likely within two years) and his staff has left for other jobs and the new Bama staff isn't as good? By the time that happens, the young studs will be at other P5 schools already and it is hard to poach a P5 coach that is winning.

Even if Bama hired Dabo he isn't no Saban.

When Bryant died they said there would never be another.

It's just the cycle of things.

We are at the high point of one of these cycles, both UA and the conference; it will end and come again, as it always does.

(12-07-2015 06:06 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-07-2015 05:59 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  Hot young coaches are not flocking to the SEC, all of that happening in the future (which is now present) was all made up myths. Coaches want to coach at schools where they can win and compete for a national title. Having every team in a division being a power eats alive the division over time and coaches eventually get fired or leave on their own.

UGA fired Richt because he isn't Saban. LSU wanted to fire Les Miles because he isn't Saban. You know Auburn fire chatter will pick up with another bad season. You know A&M chatter will pick up to fire Sumlin without another divisional title.

There is no reason to go to a place with unrealistic expectations for roughly the same pay when you can go somewhere else and provide a better quality of life for your family and not have so many nutty people in the fanbase calling for you to be fired everytime you lose a game, even if it is by one point.

South Carolina got turned by the next generation greats and established P/G5 coaches and settled for a guy that was already fired from a school within the conference. SEC hiring SEC.

What are these schools in the SEC going to do when Saban is gone (likely within two years) and his staff has left for other jobs and the new Bama staff isn't as good? By the time that happens, the young studs will be at other P5 schools already and it is hard to poach a P5 coach that is winning.

Even if Bama hired Dabo he isn't no Saban.

When Bryant died they said there would never be another.

It's just the cycle of things.

We are at the high point of one of these cycles, both UA and the conference; it will end and come again, as it always does.

The seed change is going to be swift everywhere. Too many Boomer coaches headed into retirement. The SEC is at least 3 years into the switch over between generations. I'd say the Big 10 is two years in at least. College football won't look the same in 5 years, even without more realignment.