Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
Author Message
Bookmark and Share
COHUSKIE Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,525
Joined: Jan 2004
Reputation: 7
I Root For: NIU/ColoState
Location: Rocky Mountains
Post: #1
BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
12-06-2015 10:13 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


NIUSox10 Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,923
Joined: Sep 2011
Reputation: 13
I Root For: NIU, White Sox
Location:
Post: #2
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
(12-06-2015 10:13 PM)COHUSKIE Wrote:  Link

Get on the phone SF ^^ AAC here we come
12-06-2015 10:28 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
beachboy Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,441
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 14
I Root For: huskies
Location:
Post: #3
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
BIG commish Jim Delany is a cold-blooded, reptilian individual.
12-06-2015 10:31 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
HuskieJohn Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 23,591
Joined: Dec 2010
Reputation: 64
I Root For: NIU
Location:
Post: #4
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
Yes this would be good. Realistically though after the past 2 seasons who would the B12 be more likely to adding?

Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati, UCF, USF or Houston?

Then who would the AAC look into adding to backfill to 12?
NIU, Toledo, Buffalo, Marshall, WKY, Rice, LT, So Miss, Akron or Ohio?
12-07-2015 11:32 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DogPoundNorth Offline
Coach Carey Loves His Wife
*

Posts: 6,778
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 55
I Root For: NIU
Location: Chicago
Post: #5
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
(12-07-2015 11:32 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Yes this would be good. Realistically though after the past 2 seasons who would the B12 be more likely to adding?

Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati, UCF, USF or Houston?

Then who would the AAC look into adding to backfill to 12?
NIU, Toledo, Buffalo, Marshall, WKY, Rice, LT, So Miss, Akron or Ohio?

Would love to get into the AAC before it becomes a Power Conference. Timing is everything. Both Houston and Temple's coaches turned down big money to stay in the AAC for also big money. I feel like it's just a matter of time for the AAC.
12-07-2015 11:39 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
NIUfilmmaker Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,243
Joined: Apr 2010
Reputation: 53
I Root For: NIU!
Location: Wicker Park, Chicago
Post: #6
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
We need the State of Illinois to get its budget together, until then we are in limbo. Hopefully soon.
(This post was last modified: 12-07-2015 11:42 AM by NIUfilmmaker.)
12-07-2015 11:41 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


HuskieRak Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,933
Joined: Feb 2007
Reputation: 27
I Root For: NIU! NIU! NIU!
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Post: #7
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
(12-07-2015 11:39 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-07-2015 11:32 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Yes this would be good. Realistically though after the past 2 seasons who would the B12 be more likely to adding?

Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati, UCF, USF or Houston?

Then who would the AAC look into adding to backfill to 12?
NIU, Toledo, Buffalo, Marshall, WKY, Rice, LT, So Miss, Akron or Ohio?

Would love to get into the AAC before it becomes a Power Conference. Timing is everything. Both Houston and Temple's coaches turned down big money to stay in the AAC for also big money. I feel like it's just a matter of time for the AAC.

Don't think it's becoming a power conference again, but it's without a doubt a step above every other group of five conference right now.
12-07-2015 11:43 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
golf4501 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,023
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 6
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #8
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
(12-06-2015 10:31 PM)beachboy Wrote:  BIG commish Jim Delany is a cold-blooded, reptilian individual.

+1000%

He already ruined college hockey and long time rivals for the sake of the Big 10.
12-07-2015 11:45 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DogPoundNorth Offline
Coach Carey Loves His Wife
*

Posts: 6,778
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 55
I Root For: NIU
Location: Chicago
Post: #9
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
(12-07-2015 11:43 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  
(12-07-2015 11:39 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-07-2015 11:32 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Yes this would be good. Realistically though after the past 2 seasons who would the B12 be more likely to adding?

Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati, UCF, USF or Houston?

Then who would the AAC look into adding to backfill to 12?
NIU, Toledo, Buffalo, Marshall, WKY, Rice, LT, So Miss, Akron or Ohio?

Would love to get into the AAC before it becomes a Power Conference. Timing is everything. Both Houston and Temple's coaches turned down big money to stay in the AAC for also big money. I feel like it's just a matter of time for the AAC.

Don't think it's becoming a power conference again, but it's without a doubt a step above every other group of five conference right now.

Although this year is a perfect example of why it wouldn't be a good idea, but if the playoff ever does go to 8 teams, I can guarantee you that the AAC will have an automatic bid. Not to mention teams will get tired of having to schedule the AAC teams as G5 teams, SOS wise they will eventually want the AAC as a Power Conference.
(This post was last modified: 12-07-2015 11:46 AM by DogPoundNorth.)
12-07-2015 11:45 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
thxjoenovak Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 8,104
Joined: Jan 2010
Reputation: 36
I Root For: NIU
Location:
Post: #10
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
(12-07-2015 11:45 AM)golf4501 Wrote:  
(12-06-2015 10:31 PM)beachboy Wrote:  BIG commish Jim Delany is a cold-blooded, reptilian individual.

+1000%

He already ruined college hockey and long time rivals for the sake of the Big 10.

Nothing says Big 10 like Rutgers & Maryland....01-wingedeagle
12-07-2015 11:52 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
niu79 Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,725
Joined: Nov 2003
Reputation: 6
I Root For: NIU
Location:
Post: #11
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
(12-07-2015 11:45 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-07-2015 11:43 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  
(12-07-2015 11:39 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(12-07-2015 11:32 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Yes this would be good. Realistically though after the past 2 seasons who would the B12 be more likely to adding?

Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati, UCF, USF or Houston?

Then who would the AAC look into adding to backfill to 12?
NIU, Toledo, Buffalo, Marshall, WKY, Rice, LT, So Miss, Akron or Ohio?

Would love to get into the AAC before it becomes a Power Conference. Timing is everything. Both Houston and Temple's coaches turned down big money to stay in the AAC for also big money. I feel like it's just a matter of time for the AAC.

Don't think it's becoming a power conference again, but it's without a doubt a step above every other group of five conference right now.

Although this year is a perfect example of why it wouldn't be a good idea, but if the playoff ever does go to 8 teams, I can guarantee you that the AAC will have an automatic bid. Not to mention teams will get tired of having to schedule the AAC teams as G5 teams, SOS wise they will eventually want the AAC as a Power Conference.

The Catch 22 is that the only way for NIU to get into the AAC would be if the top team(s) moves to a P5 conference. It may open a spot, but it will also weaken the conference to the extent that it would no longer be a Power Conference.

In reading the article the Big 12 will not have to expand to stage a championship game. The issue on the table is that they will have to divide into two divisions to have a championship game. They just can't have a play-off game between the top two teams in the conference standings. The Big 12 does not want to add any more schools, and chances are they won't have to.
(This post was last modified: 12-07-2015 12:04 PM by niu79.)
12-07-2015 12:03 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


badmoonrising13 Online
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 14,938
Joined: Oct 2010
Reputation: 6
I Root For: NIU
Location:
Post: #12
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
Power 6 and two wild cards sounds about right...
12-07-2015 04:39 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
HuskieTap22 Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,214
Joined: Sep 2004
Reputation: 40
I Root For: NIU / DePaul
Location:
Post: #13
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
If realignment starts heating up again soon starting to think NIU will continue to be on the outside looking in. Lack of (reported) progress on the facilities upgrades and the budget mess in Springfield have me thinking the timing is off for a move if the dominoes start falling again.
12-07-2015 05:59 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MaddDawgz02 Offline
Banned

Posts: 40,735
Joined: Jan 2004
I Root For: any UT opponent
Location:
Post: #14
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
(12-07-2015 05:59 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  If realignment starts heating up again soon starting to think NIU will continue to be on the outside looking in. Lack of (reported) progress on the facilities upgrades and the budget mess in Springfield have me thinking the timing is off for a move if the dominoes start falling again.

We really are blessed to have Frazier who has eyed the Big 12 from the start. Also cannot forget the goldmine the Chicago media market would be for the Big 12
12-07-2015 06:04 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Big 12 fan too Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,660
Joined: May 2014
Reputation: 210
I Root For: NIU
Location:
Post: #15
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
(12-07-2015 06:04 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-07-2015 05:59 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  If realignment starts heating up again soon starting to think NIU will continue to be on the outside looking in. Lack of (reported) progress on the facilities upgrades and the budget mess in Springfield have me thinking the timing is off for a move if the dominoes start falling again.

We really are blessed to have Frazier who has eyed the Big 12 from the start. Also cannot forget the goldmine the Chicago media market would be for the Big 12
Your lack of understanding on this topic is appalling.
12-07-2015 07:43 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DogPoundNorth Offline
Coach Carey Loves His Wife
*

Posts: 6,778
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 55
I Root For: NIU
Location: Chicago
Post: #16
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
The Big 12 isn't going to expand
12-07-2015 07:49 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


Stpetebeachrocketfan Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,147
Joined: Mar 2012
Reputation: 7
I Root For: Toledo
Location:
Post: #17
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
(12-07-2015 07:43 PM)Big 12 fan too Wrote:  
(12-07-2015 06:04 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(12-07-2015 05:59 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  If realignment starts heating up again soon starting to think NIU will continue to be on the outside looking in. Lack of (reported) progress on the facilities upgrades and the budget mess in Springfield have me thinking the timing is off for a move if the dominoes start falling again.

We really are blessed to have Frazier who has eyed the Big 12 from the start. Also cannot forget the goldmine the Chicago media market would be for the Big 12
Your lack of understanding on this topic is appalling.

Illinois and northwestern don't even control the Chicago market.
12-07-2015 07:51 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
uiniu57 Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,009
Joined: Feb 2010
Reputation: 29
I Root For: Amanda Sauer
Location: Frozen part of hell
Post: #18
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
From the Dog Pound's world of incongruent.

PrairieStateFilmmaker
What does the State of Illinois getting a budget together have to do with NIU being in limbo for conference affiliation?
Seriously, are you paying attention, budget or no budget, funding for schools has been cut.

golf4501
How did Delaney "ruin college hockey and long time rivals for the sake of the Big 10?

DogPoundNorth
First is the gigantic "IF the playoff ever does go to 8 teams,"
How many years did it take to get a playoff? This is the second year and you think expanding to eight teams is just around the corner?
Second, so what if it does expand to eight teams, why in the hell does that "guarantee the AAC will have an automatic bid?" The P5 would have no interest in expanding to eight unless it virtually guaranteed it would increase their chances to get a second team into the playoffs. What makes you think the P5 want another power conference?

thxjoenovak:
Perhaps Rutgers & Maryland don't say Big 10 to you, but obviously it did to the people who made the decision. Did Nebraska say Big 10 to you before it was added. No offense, you're not viewing it from the Big 10 administrators, faculty and ADs standpoint. No. 1, the Big 10 makes decisions not based solely on football. If you and others on here don't believe adding those two increased exposure for the conference and its network, then stop trying to advance the argument that NIU would help someone with the Chicago market.

Which brings us to MadDawz02
The Chicago media market is not a "goldmine" for NIU or the Big 12. Seriously, half the people on this board constantly put down the Chicago media's coverage of the Huskies, so where's the value? Normally, I defend the media but this year was insane. The Sun-Times is a shell of what it was and the Trib spent countless inches of coverage on an ILL-ness program that not only didn't deserve it, but when down the toliet as the season closed. The Trib ridicules the school's administration, athletic program, and yet did player profiles and every week repeated a lame claim to be improving in football. Meanwhile, NIU gets on a roll, stumbles but still makes into the MAC title game, so when do they give the program major space? When an inexperienced QB and a revenge-minded team beat us. Suddenly, we get a teaser box on the very front page of the entire paper plus a huge full color main photo on the sports page.
12-07-2015 08:04 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
UIHuskie Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,995
Joined: Oct 2004
Reputation: 29
I Root For: Illinois
Location:
Post: #19
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
(12-07-2015 06:04 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  We really are blessed to have Frazier who has eyed the Big 12 from the start. Also cannot forget the goldmine the Chicago media market would be for the Big 12

Ok great, thanks for reminding us. Now please explain how the Big 12 is going to get money out of Chicago considering it doesn't have its own TV network, and likely won't for the foreseeable future.
12-07-2015 08:09 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DogPoundNorth Offline
Coach Carey Loves His Wife
*

Posts: 6,778
Joined: Jan 2014
Reputation: 55
I Root For: NIU
Location: Chicago
Post: #20
RE: BIG 10 Blocking Big 12 from having a championship game. More realignment?
(12-07-2015 08:04 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  From the Dog Pound's world of incongruent.

PrairieStateFilmmaker
What does the State of Illinois getting a budget together have to do with NIU being in limbo for conference affiliation?
Seriously, are you paying attention, budget or no budget, funding for schools has been cut.

golf4501
How did Delaney "ruin college hockey and long time rivals for the sake of the Big 10?

DogPoundNorth
First is the gigantic "IF the playoff ever does go to 8 teams,"
How many years did it take to get a playoff? This is the second year and you think expanding to eight teams is just around the corner?
Second, so what if it does expand to eight teams, why in the hell does that "guarantee the AAC will have an automatic bid?" The P5 would have no interest in expanding to eight unless it virtually guaranteed it would increase their chances to get a second team into the playoffs. What makes you think the P5 want another power conference?


thxjoenovak:
Perhaps Rutgers & Maryland don't say Big 10 to you, but obviously it did to the people who made the decision. Did Nebraska say Big 10 to you before it was added. No offense, you're not viewing it from the Big 10 administrators, faculty and ADs standpoint. No. 1, the Big 10 makes decisions not based solely on football. If you and others on here don't believe adding those two increased exposure for the conference and its network, then stop trying to advance the argument that NIU would help someone with the Chicago market.

Which brings us to MadDawz02
The Chicago media market is not a "goldmine" for NIU or the Big 12. Seriously, half the people on this board constantly put down the Chicago media's coverage of the Huskies, so where's the value? Normally, I defend the media but this year was insane. The Sun-Times is a shell of what it was and the Trib spent countless inches of coverage on an ILL-ness program that not only didn't deserve it, but when down the toliet as the season closed. The Trib ridicules the school's administration, athletic program, and yet did player profiles and every week repeated a lame claim to be improving in football. Meanwhile, NIU gets on a roll, stumbles but still makes into the MAC title game, so when do they give the program major space? When an inexperienced QB and a revenge-minded team beat us. Suddenly, we get a teaser box on the very front page of the entire paper plus a huge full color main photo on the sports page.

USA Today, AP, ESPN have all stated this past season that if the playoff went to 8, they would be very surprised if the AAC wasn't guaranteed a spot. Also, the P5 will eventually just start calling AAC teams "power teams" as far as their schedule is concerned. It's already started.

With that said, I don't think it will expand to 8. But being in the AAC is CLEARLY better than being in the MAC. This is not a debate.
(This post was last modified: 12-07-2015 08:25 PM by DogPoundNorth.)
12-07-2015 08:24 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.