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Idiotic statement by Falwell Jr. dooms Liberty to FCS forever
Up until yesterday, Jerry Falwell, Jr. was different from his dad. He was much more polished, calculated his words before speaking, and was able to propel Liberty University to expansion, recognition and success beyond his dad's vision. Yesterday, years of undoing stupid past actions (Tellie Tubbies, Twin Tower remarks and more) were brought before the forefront in a Convocation offending a whole race of people seen and read my millions.

The latest, in Convocation Jr. blamed Muslims for the terrorism movement and worse, challenged any terrorist to come to the LU campus. To emphasis his point, Jr. reached around to his rear pants pocket implying he had a pistol implying he would shoot any Muslin terrorist who came on campus. To add to the insanity, he encouraged all students to get a gun and take a carry and conceal permit and bragged that there were classes at LU for that. What a dumb, stupfd, ignorant, non-justified statement to make. Up to today, Jr. had impressed me with his coolness and how he had positioned the school to one day achieve FBS. Those visions are gone forever.

No school or conference would want to be associated with a wild west, shoot'em up, conceal-n-carry, Muslim (or any race) hate university, hiding behind religious values that are only used to further it's mission and agenda being void of the higher values of peace and acceptance. Jr's speech got the kool-aid drinking flock to cheer like a comedian uses his punch line for a laugh.

This is despicable. The likely hundreds if not thousands of times that I, and many others both supporters of the school and past admirers of the university, have been punked. We've been duped.

Congrats Jerry, Jr. You just pigeon holed all the good will you have done, all the expansion of facilities, all the improvements, all the FCOA payments, Snow-Flex, hockey rink, indoor FB training facility, baseball, softball, track improvements, all the positive things you've done, into a doomed destiny in the FCS. You've alienated a whole race of people with your macho John Wayne impression, seen and read my millions and on tv and online.

I had to write this post. If I remain silent then that is an endorsement. I will not be a part of any group that espouses hate. How I participate from here on out I'm still contemplating as many thoughts swirl in my head. One word best sums this up. Disgusting.
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12-06-2015 09:18 AM
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I have zero issue with what Jr said. In this society of political correctness what he said may offend some, but the truth is many many agree with him and support those comments. There's more to life than FBS aspirations. Taking a stand against the evils of society (Muslim extremists) is worth any backlash the liberal media may throw Jr's way.
12-06-2015 03:29 PM
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Well said by Jr.! I applaud his boldness and the truth in his words. There was nothing wrong nor false about his message.
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To begin, has everyone seen the news reports and/or read the newspaper accounts? If not, please do that before commenting. If so, then we have a diametrically different world view. What I truly don't understand is how this helps LU to benefit from these statements.
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Quotes from the Washington Post Dec. 5

“I’ve always thought that if more good people had concealed-carry permits, then we could end those Muslims before they walked in,” he says, the rest of his sentence drowned out by loud applause while he said, “and killed them.”

"Falwell retweeted several tweets praising his remarks, including one that said “SUCK IT, Muslim extremists,” with a link to the weapons course Liberty offers."

In the video, Jr. urged students to get their own gun and have a carry and conceal permit. What could go wrong with 12,000+ 18 to 24 years old students, all carrying guns in close proximity to each other?????
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This is why university presidents have handlers to prevent them from saying unfiltered things that would damage the reputation of their school.

Im sure he did not mean to impugn all muslims, even their attackers own families are horrified at what they did but yes the way he said
this stuff would damage LU's attempt to join any conference.
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(12-06-2015 05:45 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  To begin, has everyone seen the news reports and/or read the newspaper accounts? If not, please do that before commenting. If so, then we have a diametrically different world view. What I truly don't understand is how this helps LU to benefit from these statements.

I have read the articles and watched the video of President Falwell. I read his quote in the Washington times, clarifying that he was talking about Muslim terrorists who are carrying out terrorist attacks. Then again, given the time frame and context of the message during convocation, I had already figured that out.

I stand by what I said earlier in this thread. I suppose you must consider me or any other person who agreed with the message of what he said as idiots as well?
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A couple things. In VA you must be 21 to have s conceal and carry license, do it's not going to be a bunch of 18 year olds carry guns. Secondly, Jr has clarified that he wasn't talking about all Muslim's. I have a conceal carry in Ohio, I don't see the big deal with his remarks. Muslims are carrying our a global jihad, the US and the rest of the world better wake up and acknowledge it.
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(12-06-2015 09:18 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  Up until yesterday, Jerry Falwell, Jr. was different from his dad. He was much more polished, calculated his words before speaking, and was able to propel Liberty University to expansion, recognition and success beyond his dad's vision. Yesterday, years of undoing stupid past actions (Tellie Tubbies, Twin Tower remarks and more) were brought before the forefront in a Convocation offending a whole race of people seen and read my millions.

The latest, in Convocation Jr. blamed Muslims for the terrorism movement and worse, challenged any terrorist to come to the LU campus. To emphasis his point, Jr. reached around to his rear pants pocket implying he had a pistol implying he would shoot any Muslin terrorist who came on campus. To add to the insanity, he encouraged all students to get a gun and take a carry and conceal permit and bragged that there were classes at LU for that. What a dumb, stupfd, ignorant, non-justified statement to make. Up to today, Jr. had impressed me with his coolness and how he had positioned the school to one day achieve FBS. Those visions are gone forever.

No school or conference would want to be associated with a wild west, shoot'em up, conceal-n-carry, Muslim (or any race) hate university, hiding behind religious values that are only used to further it's mission and agenda being void of the higher values of peace and acceptance. Jr's speech got the kool-aid drinking flock to cheer like a comedian uses his punch line for a laugh.

This is despicable. The likely hundreds if not thousands of times that I, and many others both supporters of the school and past admirers of the university, have been punked. We've been duped.

Congrats Jerry, Jr. You just pigeon holed all the good will you have done, all the expansion of facilities, all the improvements, all the FCOA payments, Snow-Flex, hockey rink, indoor FB training facility, baseball, softball, track improvements, all the positive things you've done, into a doomed destiny in the FCS. You've alienated a whole race of people with your macho John Wayne impression, seen and read my millions and on tv and online.

I had to write this post. If I remain silent then that is an endorsement. I will not be a part of any group that espouses hate. How I participate from here on out I'm still contemplating as many thoughts swirl in my head. One word best sums this up. Disgusting.

He shouldn't of said it but even without the clarification I knew he was talking about the extremists. This doesn't rank up there with the twin towers debacle at all since Muslim Radicals are attacking Americans. He isn't connecting dots that don't exist. I wouldn't worry about it affecting going FBS.
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